# Fargo S1E9 \[Open spoilers\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 11, 2014, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e9-open-spoilers/690522 "2014-06-11T03:14:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e9-open-spoilers/690522/121 "2014-06-13T19:51:41Z")
IMPORTANT NOTE. The “Fargo” season finale on Tuesday, June 17 at 10:00 PM is listed as running 1 hour on 32 minutes. Set DVRs appropriately or you’'ll miss the last 32 minutes or the last 2 minutes. Don’t be the guy on here Wednesday saying, “I missed the end. Please tell me what happened.” ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e9-open-spoilers/690522/122 "2014-06-13T21:49:00Z")
> [@The\_Fornicator](#): > > I can’t quite get what he says, “… plus $100,000 _something_ down the toilet”, where _something_ sounds like ‘ballet’ (but presumably can’t be). Maybe it was to do with the set up, maybe his fiancee or something… I’m pretty sure the word was “bounty”. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Fornicator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@The\_Fornicator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Fornicator)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e9-open-spoilers/690522/123 "2014-06-13T21:59:36Z")
Yep, def: good call! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e9-open-spoilers/690522/124 "2014-06-13T22:18:42Z")
What I’m reminded of is the movie Fallen with Denzel Washington. [Fallen (1998) - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119099/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_23) I’d be very surprised if the producers/writers etc break with realism to tell us what Malvo is. I think the speculation is a major part of the enjoyment. I hope that Molly or Gus collar and/or shoot Malvo. Lester is pathetic. I hope he gets a quick death. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e9-open-spoilers/690522/125 "2014-06-13T22:34:54Z")
I wonder whether any of the characters will return in the next season. I’m kind of hoping Malvo returns. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e9-open-spoilers/690522/126 "2014-06-13T22:52:13Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I wonder whether any of the characters will return in the next season. I’m kind of hoping Malvo returns. Is there a second season? ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e9-open-spoilers/690522/127 "2014-06-13T22:55:37Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Is there a second season? For what it’s worth, Entertainment Weekly labels the last episode as “Season Finale” and not “Series Finale”. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e9-open-spoilers/690522/128 "2014-06-13T22:59:12Z")
There is no indication that there will be a second season. It’s a shame but at least that means that we’ll get a resolution in a few days. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e9-open-spoilers/690522/129 "2014-06-13T23:02:36Z")
It seems like if there was going to be one we’d know by now. Besides, everything I’ve read has said this was going to be a one season mini-series. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e9-open-spoilers/690522/130 "2014-06-13T23:15:30Z")
> [@The\_Fornicator](#): > > I guess we can debate the successes and otherwise of Fargo but the most notable decision for me has been to play Martin Freeman completely against type … I’m not sure I agree it’s completely against type for Freeman. He has often played the put-upon shrinking violet who is sometimes pushed too far into taking extraordinary action. Only this time, the extraordinary reaction is something horrific instead of heroic. In some ways he is still able to hang onto my sympathy even when he’s at his worst. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e9-open-spoilers/690522/131 "2014-06-13T23:22:03Z")
I _thought_ I’d read that it was intended as an anthology, so that each season would be a different story with a different cast. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e9-open-spoilers/690522/132 "2014-06-13T23:25:03Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > I hope that Molly or Gus collar and/or shoot Malvo. > > Lester is pathetic. I hope he gets a quick death. I hope neither of them ends up dead. I know that that’s the fantasy that this thriller cliche always feeds us – that killing the bad guy is the goal, purpose, solution, perfect ending. That this is what justice means. But it’s not really and I’m tired of seeing it all the time. It’s really what disappointed me about the end of “True Detective.” I want to see our fiction start exploring the notion of justice much deeper and not be satisfied with simple retribution. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e9-open-spoilers/690522/133 "2014-06-13T23:29:19Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I _thought_ I’d read that it was intended as an anthology, so that each season would be a different story with a different cast. That would be cool. You could have different people finding and then re-burying the suitcase. There has been no announcement for a second season though. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e9-open-spoilers/690522/134 "2014-06-13T23:31:29Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > That would be cool. You could have different people finding and then re-burying the suitcase. There has been no announcement for a second season though. I know _we_ tossed that idea around the only part of it I didn’t like is that with the exception of the money being a B plot, it runs the risk of making the show somewhat predictable. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2014, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e9-open-spoilers/690522/135 "2014-06-14T00:03:32Z")
Here is a couple of excerpts from a Hollywood Reporter article from before the show aired. (FYI, Hawley is Noah Hawley, the executive producer.) “‘After a season or two of the show, people who see the movie might say that was a great episode of Fargo. Each season is a separate true crime story from that region. The movie now fits into the series as another true crime story from the region,’ Hawley said. ‘I don’t think you need to it watch before [watching the series], but I think you should watch it because it’s a great movie, but you don’t need to.’” Later the same article says, “As for what a potential second season would look like, Hawley said he’s already planning to tell a new story, but Fargo isn’t like FX’s Ryan Murphy-Brad Falchuk anthology series, American Horror Story, in which actors would return to play new parts for a completely different premise.” ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2014, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e9-open-spoilers/690522/136 "2014-06-14T00:08:09Z")
So far, they haven’t said either way as to cancellation or a new season. We have to wait and see. ---
**Author:** ![nevadaexile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/eb8c5e/32.png) [@nevadaexile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nevadaexile)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2014, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e9-open-spoilers/690522/137 "2014-06-14T00:28:26Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > I didn’t catch the conversation on the tape…I think I was focusing on the cool briefcase setup. Can you help with it? > > re the $100k… I also thought that was a bit low. Hopefully it was **plus** expenses. $100k is low. A busy dentist could make that much in a partnership in 6 months or less. And the house that he was living in was (even for the KC area) north of $500k. I would imagine that if you flushed out a person in WITSEC and offed them, we’d be talking $500k or more as the feds would be hunting for you and you might not work for a while. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Fornicator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@The\_Fornicator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Fornicator)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2014, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e9-open-spoilers/690522/138 "2014-06-14T07:39:05Z")
At his point I think Malvo picks his work in a similar way to BBT and Martin Freemon - he does what interests him. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2014, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e9-open-spoilers/690522/139 "2014-06-14T08:57:44Z")
I like to “suspend disbelief” when I watch a movie (or TV series); those I like best are those I can imagine to be “a true story” – just like it claims at the beginning of each Fargo episode. But I was shocked and disappointed by the elevator shootings. The series suddenly “jumped the shark” for me (if that’s the appropriate expression); it didn’t seem realistic. It turned the series into a farce, like _Get Smart_ or 1960’s _Batman_. Perhaps I’m showing gross naïveté: why did I need to wait until Episode 9 to think the story wasn’t _really_ true? :smack: (And I’m afraid part of the reason the killings seemed unrealistic is that a fake-dentist wouldn’t have killed such a hot-looking fake-wife. 😉 :eek: ) Did anyone else react this way? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Fornicator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@The\_Fornicator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Fornicator)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2014, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e9-open-spoilers/690522/140 "2014-06-14T09:59:12Z")
Yay! 9/10 through before the first SDMB ‘jumped the shark’ claim. > [@septimus](#): > > Perhaps I’m showing gross naïveté: why did I need to wait until Episode 9 to think the story wasn’t _really_ true? :smack: It’s just a somewhat silly ‘in joke’. You might enjoy looking at some of the Coen Brothers work though. Fwiw, I’m kind of surrpised at how this matters for some, it’s not like most documentaries get a rounded sense of an event eithe. Hollywood - zero chance. It’s all just entertainment. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e9-open-spoilers/690522.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e9-open-spoilers/690522.md?page=8)