# Fargo S2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 28, 2015, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840 "2015-09-28T15:08:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/441 "2015-12-09T18:14:05Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > Personally while realizing it almost certainly is a polarizing moment for show fans, I _loved_ it. _Adored_ it. I’ve got no problem with supernatural mysteries plugged into seemingly normal shows and it’s the most absurdly literal _deus ex machina_ ever. How did the UFO solve a hopeless situation? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/442 "2015-12-09T18:20:18Z")
Well, the UFO distracted Bear Gerhardt for long enough that Lou was able to grab his revolver and kill him. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/443 "2015-12-09T20:15:58Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > No, it was a fake. There was about half a page of text that more or less followed the story, then it was cut and pasted all over dozens of pages to fill them up, sometimes in order, sometimes not. An, thanks. > [@Charlie\_Wayne](#): > > MSP? > > Minnesota State Police? Almost: [Minnesota State Patrol - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_State_Patrol) > [@simster](#): > > I pretty much took Hanzee at his word to Floyd - he couldn’t [guarantee] her safety - as the narrator said, there is much debate about when/how he came to the decision he did… I’m not one to see a sexual subtext in everything, but both Hanzee and Floyd’s expressions when he was stabbing her were… interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Fir\_na\_tine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Fir\_na\_tine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fir_na_tine)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/444 "2015-12-09T21:44:07Z")
> [@simster](#): > > You missed: nothing > > 🙂 Thanks! That’s what I was hoping. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/445 "2015-12-09T21:57:39Z")
> [@JohnGalt](#): > > Now let’s see them answer what happened to Simone - maybe she’ll come storming out of the woods with guns ablazing ready to take over the family business. She’s dead, Jim. He did a “ol yeller” on her, I am sure. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/446 "2015-12-09T22:28:49Z")
I found this article where the Fargo show runner Noah Hawley explains the alien encounters. > **['Fargo' showrunner talks motel massacre and explains that UFO](https://ew.com/article/2015/12/07/fargo-ufo/?hootPostID=5e9cd82b8e22226d513615b8e9fcff9d)** > > Noah Hawley talks tonight's motel massacre and that jaw-dropping moment. At least, he kind of explains them. But not really. ---
**Author:** ![MsJinx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/278dde/32.png) [@MsJinx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsJinx)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/447 "2015-12-09T22:38:24Z")
Screencaps show pages from the ‘history book’ in this episode. Whoever posted previously about Peggy having dated Ed’s friend, who went to Viet Nam - it is referred to here as well (last page of the book). Also the script is on this site, with the narration. > **[Springfield! Springfield!](https://www.springfieldspringfield.co.uk/?)** > > Springfield! Springfield! - SS is dedicated to The Simpsons and host to thousands of free TV show episode scripts and movie scripts. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/448 "2015-12-09T22:52:23Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > So, anyone posted this brief article on the apparent genesis of the [UFO subplot](http://www.mprnews.org/story/2015/10/27/fargo-val-johnson-incident)?.. I posted a link to a different article on the subject back in post #60. I still haven’t decided if I loved or hated the UFO. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/449 "2015-12-09T22:58:09Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > I posted a link to a different article on the subject back in post #60. > > I still haven’t decided if I loved or hated the UFO. Hated it. But loved the hints, in the epis before. Hints are better than blatant. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/450 "2015-12-10T01:51:34Z")
> [@MsJinx](#): > > Screencaps show pages from the ‘history book’ in this episode. Whoever posted previously about Peggy having dated Ed’s friend, who went to Viet Nam - it is referred to here as well (last page of the book). > [Springfield! Springfield! TV Show Scripts and Movie Scripts](http://www.springfieldspringfield.co.uk/view-screencaps.php?tv-show=fargo-2014&episode=s02e09) Yes, that paragraph, next to the picture of Ed and Peggy, is pretty easy to read. But if you look closely, you’ll see the same paragraph in the previous screencap, opposite a picture of a big house with a very interesting roof, and it’s also the second paragraph of Chapter 14, opposite the picture of Rye Gerhardt. So they made a little text go a long way. ---
**Author:** ![MsJinx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/278dde/32.png) [@MsJinx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsJinx)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/451 "2015-12-10T03:07:49Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > Yes, that paragraph, next to the picture of Ed and Peggy, is pretty easy to read. But if you look closely, you’ll see the same paragraph in the previous screencap, opposite a picture of a big house with a very interesting roof, and it’s also the second paragraph of Chapter 14, opposite the picture of Rye Gerhardt. So they made a little text go a long way. Thank you! I won’t strain my eyes trying to read the other pages. Okay, then. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/452 "2015-12-10T04:27:51Z")
> [@MikeF](#): > > Bear goes into one of the hotel rooms searching for Dodd and racks his shotgun dramatically. The thing is, no spent round ejects when he does so. Nitpick for sure but if your going to make the act central to the shot, make it accurate. > > We normally watch this on-demand (with very brief commercial breaks) but watched last night “live”. Is it me or are there commercials every five minutes? Its very annoying. > [@DrDeth](#): > > She’s dead, Jim. He did a “ol yeller” on her, I am sure. Had he shot it at the Motel yet? Could the lack of a spent round mean that Simone is alive? (She said hopefully. . .) :o ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/453 "2015-12-10T05:18:07Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > Had he shot it at the Motel yet? Could the lack of a spent round mean that Simone is alive? (She said hopefully. . .) :o Sorry- Simone was stupid. Stupid people die in Fargo. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/454 "2015-12-10T05:20:02Z")
Yeah, I think she’s dead, too. But ya never know… ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/455 "2015-12-10T12:03:04Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > Had he shot it at the Motel yet? Could the lack of a spent round mean that Simone is alive? (She said hopefully. . .) :o The scene with Simone was with a handgun. The scene at the hotel was with a shotgun. I can excuse the scene @ the hotel in that this was his first round being chambered, but that would be really stupid on his part. (and honestly, its been a while, so not sure if first round is already chambered in a shotgun or not). ---
**Author:** ![Raza](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raza/32/213_2.png) [@Raza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raza)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/456 "2015-12-10T14:24:50Z")
Anyone getting ready for a firefight with a pump-action shotgun would load up the tube, rack/chamber a round, then reload one more in the tube, for maximum capacity. Just once I’d like to see the show have someone get a jam, then _realistically_ deal with it. It’d be a minor thing to most of the audience, but a “wow-accurate” to experienced gunners. ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/457 "2015-12-10T14:44:38Z")
If I remember correctly from season one, Molly’s dad mentions one night years before when he sat on their porch in bitter cold waiting for some “big evil” or “pure evil itself” or something like that. Because of that I’ve been trying to determine who the “big evil” is. I think Mike Milligan may be more of a Malvo-like character but Hanzee to me is the most dangerous. Is anyone else expecting a season climax on the porch of Molly’s house? ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/458 "2015-12-10T14:55:51Z")
[The Golden Globe nominations were announced, with the show, Patrick Wilson, and Kirsten Dunst all getting nominations](http://www.amny.com/entertainment/carol-fargo-lead-2016-golden-globe-nominations-1.11211738). The Golden Globes aren’t perfect but those are good nominations to see. > [@BubbaDog](#): > > If I remember correctly from season one, Molly’s dad mentions one night years before when he sat on their porch in bitter cold waiting for some “big evil” or “pure evil itself” or something like that. > > Because of that I’ve been trying to determine who the “big evil” is. I think Mike Milligan may be more of a Malvo-like character but Hanzee to me is the most dangerous. > > Is anyone else expecting a season climax on the porch of Molly’s house? I don’t remember the context for him saying that, it could have been him talking about this, or just some other time about him being protective. I don’t know why Hanzee or Milligan would be coming after the Solverson’s house. Hanzee wants to finish off Peggy and Ed, and Mike wants to work on his business. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/459 "2015-12-10T15:05:43Z")
Mike is going to come out of this smelling like a rose. KC can easily move in now and Mike will take credit for the massacre. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/460 "2015-12-10T15:11:06Z")
Has Hanzee and Lou even ‘met’ yet? I don’t believe so - Lou is aware of Hanzee - Hanzee might be aware of Lou in ‘general’ - he doesn’t have a reason to go after Lou at this time - of course, that might change Monday night. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840.md?page=22) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840.md?page=24)