# Fargo S2

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 28, 2015, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840 "2015-09-28T15:08:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/541 "2015-12-15T18:49:55Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> Adam Arkin

He also directed this episode and the previous one.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/542 "2015-12-15T19:05:11Z")

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> [@andrea\_green](#):
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> Thanks Zeldar! I recognized his voice from Life (2007), a detective show where he played a goofy sidekick.

> [@Sam\_Lowry](#):
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> He also directed this episode and the previous one.

[Adam Arkin](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0035060/?ref_=nv_sr_1)has some great bloodlines. His Daddy is Alan Arkin. Adam was a key player in _Sons of Anarchy_ recently. His range is impressive, for my money. The bald head probably didn’t help in identifying him and until this latest episode you didn’t get a good view of him in _Fargo S2_. They did several name actors that way. Sneaky devils! 🙂

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/543 "2015-12-15T19:20:13Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Also sorry not to see the bearded, blustery lawyer again.

He was called away on matters of the utmost importance.

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**Author:** ![justmeetee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@justmeetee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/justmeetee)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/544 "2015-12-15T20:44:58Z")

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Still wondering what became of the ground Rye.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/545 "2015-12-15T20:55:09Z")

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> [@justmeetee](#):
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> Still wondering what became of the ground Rye.

My best guess: dog food.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/546 "2015-12-15T21:54:21Z")

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[Fargo Season 3 Will Take Place in 2010 and Deal With Our ‘Selfie-Oriented Culture’](http://www.vulture.com/2015/12/fargo-season-three-2010-selfie-culture.html). It won’t premiere until 2017, which is way too long, but I’m sure it will be great.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/547 "2015-12-16T03:27:35Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> …Yes. And that was (episode director) Adam Arkin as the bald boss, wasn’t it?..

Should I use my powers of invisibility for good, or evil?

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/548 "2015-12-16T03:42:10Z")

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So was S1 or S2 better? I am leaning towards S1, but they were both great.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/549 "2015-12-16T04:42:58Z")

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I liked S2 much better.

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**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/550 "2015-12-16T05:09:49Z")

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I’m going to break from the majority opinion and say that was one of the finest hours of television I can recall seeing. I love shows that zig instead of zagging, and even though “denouement episodes” have become a “thing,” I found this episode kept surprising me. One of my very few criticisms of Season 1 was that the final conflict and resolution with Malvo seemed too conventional for the tone of the series. This seemed more on the money. Overall, I thought Season 2 was vastly superior to Season 1, and Season 1 was fucking brilliant.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_John_Marcej)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/551 "2015-12-16T05:12:23Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> So was S1 or S2 better? I am leaning towards S1, but they were both great.

I’d have to say S2.  
I loved the first season until… the final episode. The conclusion to the first season reminded me too much like the original film. Don’t get me wrong, I love the film but I thought that ending was a bit too redundant.

This second season still had the feel of the original film and the first season, but felt original too.

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**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/552 "2015-12-16T06:50:24Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> And Lou’s limp was just sciatica.

The limp is from being shot during a traffic stop that would happen in-between seasons 1 and 2. Molly explains it during season 1.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/553 "2015-12-16T10:28:51Z")

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> [@Alan\_Smithee](#):
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> I thought Season 2 was vastly superior to Season 1, and Season 1 was fucking brilliant.

Agreed on both counts.

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**Author:** ![Nom\_de\_Plume](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/85f322/32.png) [@Nom\_de\_Plume](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nom_de_Plume)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/554 "2015-12-16T11:26:28Z")

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I thought, somehow, Milligan was going to be killed in the final episode. Instead, I loved how he ended up in his own personal hell. I think Sisyphus would have been a better name for the episode, based on Milligan’s future,Lou’s reference, and Noreen’s book. I don’t feel the series ended as it began, and so don’t see the Palindrome reference. Could someone enlighten me?

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/555 "2015-12-16T11:54:01Z")

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> [@Nom\_de\_Plume](#):
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> I thought, somehow, Milligan was going to be killed in the final episode. Instead, I loved how he ended up in his own personal hell. I think Sisyphus would have been a better name for the episode, based on Milligan’s future,Lou’s reference, and Noreen’s book. I don’t feel the series ended as it began, and so don’t see the Palindrome reference. Could someone enlighten me?

It’s explained in one of the review sites - Lou is the Palindrome - and in some sense the area.

Lou is the same now as when he started.

Thirded - Season 1 was brilliant - this season was better.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/556 "2015-12-16T20:14:59Z")

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I preferred S1, all in all, and Billy Bob is a big reason why.

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**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/557 "2015-12-16T20:37:06Z")

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The guy giving Hanzee his new identity - FBI or US Marshals Service? They are the ones I would think of. And they did the “rack the shotgun/no spent shell” thing again when Milligan and his sidekick encountered the thief. I accept its a Hollywood thing done for dramatic effect but no one goes into a situation where they might have to shoot without one in the chamber. They wouldn’t live to see their second gunfight.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/558 "2015-12-16T20:40:35Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> I preferred S1, all in all, and Billy Bob is a big reason why.

I agree with the Billy Bob thing, but I really grew attached to Hanzee in S2. And I think Ed and Peggy added a dimension to S2 that was lacking in S1.

It might make for some fun head-scratching to pick the Top Ten charcters from BOTH seasons. The full list is at

> **[Fargo (TV Series 2014–2024) - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2802850/fullcredits?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm)**
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> Fargo (TV Series 2014–2024) cast and crew credits, including actors, actresses, directors, writers and more.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/559 "2015-12-16T20:48:13Z")

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> [@MikeF](#):
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> The guy giving Hanzee his new identity - FBI or US Marshals Service? They are the ones I would think of. And they did the “rack the shotgun/no spent shell” thing again when Milligan and his sidekick encountered the thief. I accept its a Hollywood thing done for dramatic effect but no one goes into a situation where they might have to shoot without one in the chamber. They wouldn’t live to see their second gunfight.

I thought I heard the rattle of a spent round when he racked it. But why would a hired killer carry a weapon with a spent cartridge in the chamber into a potentially nasty situation?

I think Season 2 was far and away the better executed and better acted of the two. A bit too much exposition in the final ep, but overall just fine. The scene in the meat locker (Get it? A butcher dying in a meat locker? Oh! the blunt force irony of it all.) should have been rewritten, doing away with that weird smoke fantasy and the non-existent Hanzee waiting outside the door. It was clumsy, and even the actors seemed to be having a hard time with it.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/560 "2015-12-16T21:09:02Z")

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> [@MikeF](#):
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> The guy giving Hanzee his new identity - FBI or US Marshals Service? .

Some sort of Native American agent. Not government.

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