# Fargo S2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 28, 2015, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840 "2015-09-28T15:08:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/41 "2015-10-20T18:29:52Z")
> [@Charlie\_Wayne](#): > > The way they dress and the way they talk are nothing like any real criminals I’ve ever met. How many organized criminals from the late 1970’s Midwest have you met? ---
**Author:** ![groovie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d6d6ee/32.png) [@groovie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/groovie)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/42 "2015-10-21T14:59:43Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > How many organized criminals from the late 1970’s Midwest have you met? Slow your roll bro, that kind of information can get people killed. Or hurt. Or embarrassed. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/43 "2015-10-21T15:36:47Z")
> [@groovie](#): > > Slow your roll bro, that kind of information can get people killed. Or hurt. Or embarrassed. okay then ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/44 "2015-10-21T18:14:57Z")
> [@Charlie\_Wayne](#): > > As far as the silent Indian character goes, we really don’t know where that is heading yet. > > If there is no good reason for them to use an Indian, then I will agree with you. But I’m expecting they will have some good reason for using this guy - like maybe one of his relatives owe these gangster some money. > > By the way, I find the entire notion that these guys are gangsters to be pretty hokey. The way they dress and the way they talk are nothing like any real criminals I’ve ever met. You do know that there are numerous Indian tribes in the Midwest, right? Did you see the original film? If so, then you’ll remember Shep Proudfoot, who kicked Carl Showalter’s ass. I’m glad they’re using mixed ethnicities in the casting. **Omar Little** : That is indeed Mathias. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/45 "2015-10-23T01:42:22Z")
Not loving the alien stuff, but otherwise a solid second episode. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/46 "2015-10-23T02:17:12Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Not loving the alien stuff, but otherwise a solid second episode. what alien stuff? if you mean the UFO in ep1 - that was most likely a hallucination from the bug spray + loss of blood from the knife wound. ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/47 "2015-10-23T02:23:59Z")
The voiceover at the end (along with some lighting choices) has suggestions of continued alien stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/48 "2015-10-23T11:45:49Z")
The voiceover at the end was from War of the Worlds. I took it as foreshadowing rather than literally about aliens. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/49 "2015-10-23T13:30:56Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > The voiceover at the end was from War of the Worlds. I took it as foreshadowing rather than literally about aliens. I was going to re-watch, as I couldn’t remember it being alienish - but I can see now that 2 episodes have definitely had references that could be taken that way. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/50 "2015-10-23T14:02:07Z")
When Mike Milligan and the Kitchen brothers left the typewriter shop, there were voices saying things like, “Don’t let him get away.” What was that? I thought the three goons were being captured, but now I think it might be more of the alien plotline. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/51 "2015-10-23T14:26:20Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Not loving the alien stuff, but otherwise a solid second episode. Me either, but most of the reviews I’ve read have said that this season was stronger than the first, so I’ll give the show the benefit of the doubt. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/52 "2015-10-23T14:58:05Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > When Mike Milligan and the Kitchen brothers left the typewriter shop, there were voices saying things like, “Don’t let him get away.” What was that? I thought the three goons were being captured, but now I think it might be more of the alien plotline. No, that was just the opening of the Burl Ives song they played, about getting away from a posse. As a side note that nobody else will find interesting, when they played that song, I immediately recognized Burl Ives’ voice, but I had never heard the song before, and my first impression was that it seemed ridiculous for an old fat man to sing. Then it occurred to me for the first time that Ives must have been a young man once, but the youngest I ever saw him was in _The Big Country_, when he was already nearly 50 (and looked much older) and fat, so I had always thought of him as a fat old man. I had a similar epiphany during Ken Burns’\* Jazz\* documentary, which devoted a lot of time to Louis Armstrong as a young man, and possibly the coolest guy who ever lived. I had only seen him when he was in his 60’s. Back to Fargo — in the closing scene of the butcher shop, when they were reading the passage from WOWT, I assumed that the lights reflecting off the building were from the UFO. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/53 "2015-10-23T15:09:31Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > Me either, but most of the reviews I’ve read have said that this season was stronger than the first, so I’ll give the show the benefit of the doubt. I’m watching it, and it’s currently the only prime time show I’m watching, so I want it to be good. But I really don’t see how they can top Malvo, and I think they’re trying too hard to be quirky with the smart-mouth Milligan character, who seems to be way, way ahead of his time (although they did make one concession to reality when he was careful to say he was reaching for his ID), and the silent brothers who might as well be named Darryl and Darryl. Still, the cops in this show seem so much more watchable than the endless stream of super-good-looking geniuses on virtually every other prime time drama. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/54 "2015-10-23T17:34:55Z")
The UFO stuff is quite weird so far, I agree. On the other hand, season 1 had the maybe-but-not-necessarily-actually-supernatural Malvo, and it was fantastic. And I’m basically enjoying every other aspect of the show, so I’m definitely in. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/55 "2015-10-23T18:07:29Z")
I might watch the first two episodes again this weekend to let the show sink it. I was late to Fargo the series, my wife and I binge watched the entire thing from last Thursday through Saturday, then quickly got up to speed on S2. I had avoided the show because I love the Coen bros. movies and couldn’t see how it would work with someone else writing and directing in their world, but I’m glad to see I’m wrong. The alien connection is off putting, but there was a UFO connection in The Man Who Wasn’t There, so maybe it will work. ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/56 "2015-10-23T18:29:25Z")
Did I miss something? I know we saw strange lights in the sky but does that necessarily mean aliens? ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/57 "2015-10-23T18:48:21Z")
In the first episode, the killer chases the waitress out of the diner and finishes her off. Then a UFO appears in the sky, he stands transfixed in the middle of the road as a car plows into him. Here’s the clip [https://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;\_ylt=A2KLqII7gSpWxwoAn2UsnIlQ;\_ylu=X3oDMTByZWc0dGJtBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDdmlkBHZ0aWQDBGdwb3MDMQ--?p=ufo+fargo+season+2&vid=8c31ded6d71f6d1e2c9cbb64726dd6e7&turl=http%3A%2F%2Ftse3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DWN.Wz04VpOIE1VsLTD8TkRTfg%26pid%3D15.1%26h%3D360%26w%3D480%26c%3D7%26rs%3D1&rurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DegqiHg6ghZQ&tit=UFO+in+tv+series+fargo+season+2+ep+1&c=0&h=360&w=480&l=43&sigr=11btep3bg&sigt=1143urd2o&sigi=12l1ahchs&age=1444732502&fr2=p%3As%2Cv%3Av&fr=yhs-mozilla-003&hsimp=yhs-003&hspart=mozilla&tt=b](https://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=A2KLqII7gSpWxwoAn2UsnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTByZWc0dGJtBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDdmlkBHZ0aWQDBGdwb3MDMQ--?p=ufo+fargo+season+2&vid=8c31ded6d71f6d1e2c9cbb64726dd6e7&turl=http%3A%2F%2Ftse3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DWN.Wz04VpOIE1VsLTD8TkRTfg%26pid%3D15.1%26h%3D360%26w%3D480%26c%3D7%26rs%3D1&rurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DegqiHg6ghZQ&tit=UFO+in+tv+series+fargo+season+2+ep+1&c=0&h=360&w=480&l=43&sigr=11btep3bg&sigt=1143urd2o&sigi=12l1ahchs&age=1444732502&fr2=p%3As%2Cv%3Av&fr=yhs-mozilla-003&hsimp=yhs-003&hspart=mozilla&tt=b) ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/58 "2015-10-23T18:57:22Z")
Yeah, OK, so no actual _aliens_ yet. Just making sure. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/59 "2015-10-23T19:05:43Z")
Upthread someone suggested that the UFO was a hallucination being experienced by that guy. Remember that he’d been stabbed and sprayed in the eye with something (pepper spray or perfume, perhaps). ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840/60 "2015-10-23T19:22:42Z")
Yeah, but that doesn’t explain the use of the War of the Worlds broadcast while the credits roll and the green light at the end of episode 2. In the NY Times recap, they linked to this story of a Minnesota deputy blinded by a UFO in 1979, [http://www.ufocasebook.com/minnesotasheriff1979.html](http://www.ufocasebook.com/minnesotasheriff1979.html). ETA: he was sprayed in the face with bug spray. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s2/732840.md?page=4)