# Fargo S3 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 12, 2017, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313 "2017-04-12T13:44:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/181 "2017-06-03T04:02:54Z")
> [@Paintcharge](#): > > Nobody likes coconut cream pie. Speak for yourself! ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/182 "2017-06-03T04:24:38Z")
> [@simster](#): > > Now that there are legal partnership papers (Sy is not aware of, but Emmit is) - I doubt they ‘can’ sell the business - I suppose they could sell their half ? Yes, that’s what I meant. Sell their piece of it. Back when we first met the widow, she said that if they didn’t sell, she’d use her fortune to run them out of business. I’d love to see her try that with Varga. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/183 "2017-06-03T04:25:15Z")
> [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](#): > > Just got back from seeing _“Wonder Woman”_ and was kind of surprised to see David Thewlis in the film. After not seeing him for awhile kind of surprised to see him a lot lately. I always hear him in my head saying “It’s not a skiffle group, it’s a rock and roll band!” ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/184 "2017-06-03T04:57:18Z")
Not a bad episode, although I agree with some of the criticism here about farfetched stuff (esp. the assassin in the stationhouse jail). Definitely some recurring bits - Nikki tried to sneak out the motel window just as Jerry Lundegaard tried to at the end of the original _Fargo_. The Russian guy intimidated and scared off the cop in the library just as Malvo did during the traffic stop two seasons back. What was the cop in the library looking at before he went outside, anyway? Some kind of “hot or not” app or a dating site? Classic Emmit - blurting out an alibi and revealing he knew Ray had been murdered before the St. Cloud cop actually told him. Dumbass. And then Emmit and Sy just walked off and left the widow alone in the restaurant. That’s not going to win her over. > [@simster](#): > > and Wrench returns ----- Ah, I thought he looked familiar! Didn’t seem to me that he and Nikki knew each other, though. Not much of “protective custody” when she’s seated right next to a male prisoner, either. Prisoners are usually segregated by gender (maybe the prison bus was just making one Christmas Eve run, or they were short-handed). Best lines were, of course, Sy’s epic rant: “You really think I’m…Ha!.. In the face of all logic, that somehow I decided to turn on ya… join forces with your leptard brother and his syphilitic floozie, so I could turn millions into thousands. What’s the math there?” And FTR, I like coconut cream pie, too. _With_ chocolate sprinkles. ---
**Author:** ![Kyrie\_Eleison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kyrie_eleison/32/7682_2.png) [@Kyrie\_Eleison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyrie_Eleison)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/185 "2017-06-03T05:37:18Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Would Varga really let those guys sell the business? Am I the only one who thinks that Varga works for the widow? ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/186 "2017-06-03T14:34:48Z")
> [@Kyrie\_Eleison](#): > > Am I the only one who thinks that Varga works for the widow? I never thought of that. It’s an interesting idea. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/187 "2017-06-03T18:03:43Z")
It is. I kind of hope they’re not allies, though; that it comes down to the widow and Varga and that she squashes him like a bug. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/188 "2017-06-04T02:40:19Z")
> [@Kyrie\_Eleison](#): > > Am I the only one who thinks that Varga works for the widow? Maybe he works for Hanzi, who will make a surprise appearance at the end of the season. As I recall at the end of S2, he told the guy giving him a fake identity that he just might create his own empire. ---
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/189 "2017-06-04T03:46:23Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Maybe he works for Hanzi, who will make a surprise appearance at the end of the season. As I recall at the end of S2, he told the guy giving him a fake identity that he just might create his own empire. So you’re saying Malvo didn’t actually kill Hanzee/Tripoli when he took out the Fargo mob in 2006, or Hanzee was never really Tripoli? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/190 "2017-06-04T16:53:44Z")
> [@zbuzz](#): > > So you’re saying Malvo didn’t actually kill Hanzee/Tripoli when he took out the Fargo mob in 2006, or Hanzee was never really Tripoli? I had no idea they were the same person. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/191 "2017-06-04T17:48:52Z")
That’s the theory: [How the 'Fargo' finale revealed a hidden secret from season 1](http://uproxx.com/sepinwall/how-the-fargo-finale-revealed-a-hidden-secret-from-season-1/) ---
**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/192 "2017-06-04T18:32:28Z")
I have no trouble with Hanzee=Tripoli being an unresolved possibility hinted at vaguely by the show, but I really object to the show runner making it canon by word of god, simply because it was so badly pulled off. They’re too physically different. There is no way one character could morph into the other no matter how much time and plastic surgery occurred, and it doesn’t add enough to the story for me to suspend my disbelief in this regard. In my head canon, the author of the The History of True Crime in the Mid West (or possibly the reader) noticed some connections between the two and speculated that they might be the same, but there was no real evidence and no reason to believe it was “really” the case. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/193 "2017-06-05T00:10:02Z")
Wow, I missed this whole theory. Wild. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/194 "2017-06-05T04:13:31Z")
Given the whole toilet thing, and the hint that this was his hotel room - and given the whole Minsky thing and the fact that it’s connected to the story he wrote - I think the box has something hidden in it. Something that will bring us back to Germany. I think Ennis had lost his temper before, and thus had changed his name before. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/195 "2017-06-06T00:07:10Z")
I just remembered another Coen Bros. link. David Thewlis (Varga) had a small, strange part in _The Big Lebowski_: [The Big Lebowski (clip 14 -part 4) "What the fu\*k is with this guy?" - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFqDgWjeHAE) ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/196 "2017-06-07T18:20:13Z")
Anybody got any theories on the Ehrmantraut that advised Sussy to borrow the $1MM from Varga in the first place? Any connection to the Mike Ehrmantraut from Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul? ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/197 "2017-06-07T18:41:34Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > Anybody got any theories on the Ehrmantraut that advised Sussy to borrow the $1MM from Varga in the first place? > > Any connection to the Mike Ehrmantraut from Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul? It’s Ehrmentrabu on Fargo. Different person. ---
**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/198 "2017-06-07T19:11:36Z")
Ermentraub, you mean. (Apparently it doesn’t have an h.) ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/199 "2017-06-07T20:35:40Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > Anybody got any theories on the Ehrmantraut that advised Sussy to borrow the $1MM from Varga in the first place? > Any connection to the Mike Ehrmantraut from Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul? > [@Alan\_Smithee](#): > > Ermentraub, you mean. (Apparently it doesn’t have an h.) So, more likely a tip-of-the-hat from Hawley to Gilligan–one show-creator to another. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/200 "2017-06-08T03:20:59Z")
The opening segment of tonight’s episode has a definite callback to the movie. Innocents drive by at the wrong time and end up being chased down and murdered. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313.md?page=11)