# Fargo S3

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 12, 2017, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313 "2017-04-12T13:44:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/281 "2017-06-14T14:36:54Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> [Lech-Lecha](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lech-Lecha). In this case, I assume meaning simply “get going.”

Ah, thanks.

Y’all might like the current round of the Bakers Dozen game - go to post 52807 here: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=573445&page=1057](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=573445&page=1057)

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**Author:** ![Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_John_Marcej)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/282 "2017-06-15T02:51:11Z")

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I think that sit down between Nikki & Varga was my favorite scene of the whole season! Great stuff.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/283 "2017-06-15T03:49:45Z")

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You mean Nikki and Marrane, don’t you?

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/284 "2017-06-15T04:19:14Z")

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> [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](#):
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> I think that sit down between Nikki & Varga was my favorite scene of the whole season! Great stuff.

I really wanted to see henchman (did they ever name him?) fall thru the window… but I like what they did better - since it took them both down several notches. The look on his face when he walked into Varga’s office was just fantastic.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/285 "2017-06-15T07:14:33Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> I really wanted to see henchman (did they ever name him?)

The Asian henchman? That’s Meemo( named by Varga several episodes ago ).

Loved the Adventures of Nikki and Mr. Wrench, Avenging Angels( err…blackmailers ). Loved Emmit’s confession. And I loved Carrier Coon getting just a little love and recognition at the end, even if it was just a hug from a traffic cop and some respect from an accommodating automatic sink/soap dispenser.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/286 "2017-06-15T12:18:32Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> The Asian henchman? That’s Meemo( named by Varga several episodes ago ).

thanks!

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/287 "2017-06-15T15:47:16Z")

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Was that the IRS agent who received the Stussy documents and thumb drive at the end?

I wonder who sent them? Nikki is an obvious suspect except I don’t see how she’d have access.

I think it might have been Emmit, since he was planning on turning himself in anyway.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/288 "2017-06-15T16:05:35Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> Was that the IRS agent who received the Stussy documents and thumb drive at the end?
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> I wonder who sent them? Nikki is an obvious suspect except I don’t see how she’d have access.
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> I think it might have been Emmit, since he was planning on turning himself in anyway.

It was the IRS agent - the timing seems short for it to be Nikki or Emmit, but it certainly could be either one.

“Next time, we’ll use a real grenade”.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/289 "2017-06-15T16:54:07Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> It was the IRS agent - the timing seems short for it to be Nikki or Emmit, but it certainly could be either one.
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> “Next time, we’ll use a real grenade”.

Nikki just got all of that information so it could have been her but then it sort of defeats the purpose of the blackmail.

It could be Varga setting Emmit up for a fall.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/290 "2017-06-15T17:08:02Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> Nikki just got all of that information so it could have been her but then it sort of defeats the purpose of the blackmail.

Not necessarily - she wants to hurt Varga and exposing him AND ripping him off would be a win-win. Get him to spit out some money( remember they only gave him 1 day to pay up ) and then deal with the blow-back from the IRS.

But I agree it could be Emmit trying to rebel or Varga setting up Emmit for the final phase of his plan.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/291 "2017-06-15T18:19:00Z")

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Right. Nikki maybe does have access to at least some incriminating info. How could I have forgotten that?  
She definitely has the info on Varga’s bank accounts. We don’t know if that suitcase contained Stussy’s books or not.  
Maybe she has info on both Stussy Lots and Varga’s finances and sent both.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/292 "2017-06-15T18:20:03Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> Nikki just got all of that information so it could have been her but then it sort of defeats the purpose of the blackmail.
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> It could be Varga setting Emmit up for a fall.

There was a comment from Varga about making sure that Emmit signed ‘those papers’ (to Meemo) - so, I don;t think Varga wants him to fall ‘just yet’ - and with his current state of mind (as referenced at the police station, etc) it would be easy for Emmit to just ‘commit suicide’ and it be believable by anyone except our invisible [strike]chief[/strike] deputy.

The best part about this show is that we can’t quite be sure what will happen next.

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**Author:** ![Denial\_flash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d2c977/32.png) [@Denial\_flash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Denial_flash)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/293 "2017-06-15T18:36:03Z")

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I’m leaning towards it being Emmit who sent those docs to the IRS; for one, it seems to be the only way for him to get out and take Varga down at this point, but mainly because of something I saw in the promo for next week’s episode (which I’m not sure I’m allowed to mention here so I’ll refrain).

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/294 "2017-06-15T18:44:30Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> There was a comment from Varga about making sure that Emmit signed ‘those papers’ (to Meemo) - so, I don;t think Varga wants him to fall ‘just yet’ - and with his current state of mind (as referenced at the police station, etc) it would be easy for Emmit to just ‘commit suicide’ and it be believable by anyone except our invisible [strike]chief[/strike] deputy.

Good point.

> [@Denial\_flash](#):
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> I’m leaning towards it being Emmit who sent those docs to the IRS; for one, it seems to be the only way for him to get out and take Varga down at this point, but mainly because of something I saw in the promo for next week’s episode (which I’m not sure I’m allowed to mention here so I’ll refrain).

Yes. And part of his plan would be to be in jail and therefore “protected” when the shit went down.

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**Author:** ![Denial\_flash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d2c977/32.png) [@Denial\_flash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Denial_flash)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/295 "2017-06-15T19:09:26Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> Υes. And part of his plan would be to be in jail and therefore “protected” when the shit went down.

Yep. It very well could still be Nikki and Mr. Wrench in their “avengers” mode, but this just makes the most sense.

However, I also thought the ex-con wasn’t the one who killed Ennis and despite recent developments I’m still clinging to that idea, so I might be completely off altogether.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/296 "2017-06-15T19:30:07Z")

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> [@Denial\_flash](#):
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> Yep. It very well could still be Nikki and Mr. Wrench in their “avengers” mode, but this just makes the most sense.
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> However, I also thought the ex-con wasn’t the one who killed Ennis and despite recent developments I’m still clinging to that idea, so I might be completely off altogether.

The ex-con they arrested in this episode? (asian guy in red car) - did NOT kill Ennis.

In fact - he didn’t kill any of them - Meemo did - they just gave enough evidence, etc so that the new asian guy was completely believable as the killer.

The ex-con that Ray was supervising killed Ennis.

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**Author:** ![Denial\_flash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d2c977/32.png) [@Denial\_flash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Denial_flash)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/297 "2017-06-15T20:06:06Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> …The ex-con that Ray was supervising killed Ennis.

This is who I meant.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_John_Marcej)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/298 "2017-06-15T20:36:33Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> The ex-con they arrested in this episode? (asian guy in red car) - did NOT kill Ennis.
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> In fact - he didn’t kill any of them - Meemo did - they just gave enough evidence, etc so that the new asian guy was completely believable as the killer.
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> The ex-con that Ray was supervising killed Ennis.

I’m trying to remember if they ever showed it, or if he ever confessed to Ray & Nikki that he did it, but do we know for certain that Maurice LeFay killed Ennis Stussy?

With recent events I began thinking that maybe Varga planned all along to killing Stussy’s as part of his long range plan. The gluing the mouth shut & nose shut sounds strange enough that Varga would come up with it and Meemo would do it and that Maurice making the mistake of going to Ennis’ house was just a coincidence.

Or am I just reading too much into all of this.

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**Author:** ![Denial\_flash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d2c977/32.png) [@Denial\_flash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Denial_flash)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/299 "2017-06-15T21:15:21Z")

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> [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](#):
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> I’m trying to remember if they ever showed it, or if he ever confessed to Ray & Nikki that he did it, but do we know for certain that Maurice LeFay killed Ennis Stussy?
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> With recent events I began thinking that maybe Varga planned all along to killing Stussy’s as part of his long range plan. The gluing the mouth shut & nose shut sounds strange enough that Varga would come up with it and Meemo would do it and that Maurice making the mistake of going to Ennis’ house was just a coincidence.
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> Or am I just reading too much into all of this.

Yes! This has been bugging me from the start. Maurice wasn’t supposed to kill anyone–he was sent to steal a stamp. If he actually did end up killing the guy, it wouldn’t have been in such a sophisticated way. I mean, seriously, the guy was a drugged up dumbass.

They didn’t show him in the house. Gloria hears footsteps when she finds Ennis but doesn’t see anyone.

And no, Maurice doesn’t confess, he says something vague like “was the guy your friend? It’s a shame what happened to him” or something like that, (I’d have to re-watch it).

I feel like Ennis was already dead when Maurice arrived.

Right before the two new Stussy murders didn’t Varga talk about proceeding to stage 4 or stage 5 of the plan? Any theories on that?

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/300 "2017-06-15T21:39:07Z")

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> [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](#):
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> I’m trying to remember if they ever showed it, or if he ever confessed to Ray & Nikki that he did it, but do we know for certain that Maurice LeFay killed Ennis Stussy?
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> With recent events I began thinking that maybe Varga planned all along to killing Stussy’s as part of his long range plan. The gluing the mouth shut & nose shut sounds strange enough that Varga would come up with it and Meemo would do it and that Maurice making the mistake of going to Ennis’ house was just a coincidence.
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> Or am I just reading too much into all of this.

> [@Denial\_flash](#):
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> Yes! This has been bugging me from the start. Maurice wasn’t supposed to kill anyone–he was sent to steal a stamp. If he actually did end up killing the guy, it wouldn’t have been in such a sophisticated way. I mean, seriously, the guy was a drugged up dumbass.
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> They didn’t show him in the house. Gloria hears footsteps when she finds Ennis but doesn’t see anyone.
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> And no, Maurice doesn’t confess, he says something vague like “was the guy your friend? It’s a shame what happened to him” or something like that, (I’d have to re-watch it).
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> I feel like Ennis was already dead when Maurice arrived.
> 
> Right before the two new Stussy murders didn’t Varga talk about proceeding to stage 4 or stage 5 of the plan? Any theories on that?

I had not considereed this, and find it interesting - but I do have to wonder what Varga has to gain by killing Ennis (who wasnt related).

I could have sworn (up until readin gthese two posts) that Maurice did confess to killing Ennis in the bathroom scene with nikki and Ray.

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