# Fargo S3

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 12, 2017, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313 "2017-04-12T13:44:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2017, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/21 "2017-04-22T04:59:47Z")

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That was a great episode. I understand that some folks are a little jaded by the formula, but i’ll watch it all day long when the writing and the acting are this good.

The music choices are great, and the sound and vision of that air conditioner smashing Maurice to the sidewalk was hilarious.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2017, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/22 "2017-04-22T06:39:01Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> That was a great episode. I understand that some folks are a little jaded by the formula, but i’ll watch it all day long when the writing and the acting are this good.

That’s the thing - I _like_ this formula :). It worked for the movie, it worked for season 1 and it worked for season 2. As long as it continues to be as clever as the first two seasons ( and so far, so good ), I’m perfectly happy to continue wallowing in the Fargo version of formulaic.

I mean, I _still_ like macaroni and cheese and I’ve been eating it since forever.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2017, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/23 "2017-04-23T03:55:09Z")

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I just watched it. Looks like another good season! I don’t mind the formula at all.

I’m thinking that the valuable stamp is Eastern European and is the link with the opening scene.

Regarding the stamps that were mistakenly stolen: were they just a plain old book of first class postage stamps? What an idiot.

What were those things she found in the box in the floor, some sort of printing plates?

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2017, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/24 "2017-04-23T04:06:02Z")

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> [@JohnGalt](#):
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> - You can’t sell alcohol in grocery stores in Minnesota

Not even beer?

Never mind: thinking of a different series.

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**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2017, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/25 "2017-04-23T04:32:00Z")

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What a beautiful coincidence, I just finished re-watching S1 & S2 with no idea there even was a season 3.

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2017, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/26 "2017-04-24T00:07:53Z")

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I started watching it the other night, not knowing anything about S3 going in, and had no idea that was Ewan MacGregor until I saw his name in the end credits. In fact, my wife specifically asked who was the actor playing Ray, and I said “I have no idea – I haven’t recognized anybody yet.” Yeah, I’m an idiot.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_John_Marcej)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2017, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/27 "2017-04-24T00:48:13Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> I just watched it. Looks like another good season! I don’t mind the formula at all.
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> I’m thinking that the valuable stamp is Eastern European and is the link with the opening scene.
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> Regarding the stamps that were mistakenly stolen: were they just a plain old book of first class postage stamps? What an idiot.
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> What were those things she found in the box in the floor, some sort of printing plates?

I don’t know why I thought this, but when they showed he’d stolen what looked like a book of normal stamps, I immediately thought, hey, maybe those stamps are 3¢ stamps featuring the Mallard that Norm painted from the movie.

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**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2017, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/28 "2017-04-24T02:53:15Z")

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> [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](#):
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> I don’t know why I thought this, but when they showed he’d stolen what looked like a book of normal stamps, I immediately thought, hey, maybe those stamps are 3¢ stamps featuring the Mallard that Norm painted from the movie.

Oh, that’s good. They HAVE to bring that in somehow! I’d completely forgotten about that. Anyone notice any other ties to previous stories?

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2017, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/29 "2017-04-24T03:40:44Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> I just watched it. Looks like another good season! I don’t mind the formula at all.
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> I’m thinking that the valuable stamp is Eastern European and is the link with the opening scene.
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> Regarding the stamps that were mistakenly stolen: were they just a plain old book of first class postage stamps? What an idiot.
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> What were those things she found in the box in the floor, some sort of printing plates?

RE: What she found in the box in the floor - I thought they were vintage comic books. But then I’m an idiot sometimes.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2017, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/30 "2017-04-24T03:48:57Z")

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The AV Club recap said what she found in the box were two books; The Dungeon Lurk and Planet Wym. The titles sound like science fiction. And they note that the thing she picked up as a weapon looked like a Hugo Award (although not exactly, based on the photos I found online). So was the grandfather an SF author?

As for Ewan MacGregor, I knew in advance that he was playing the dual role but I recognized him more as Ray than as Emmit.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2017, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/31 "2017-04-24T11:18:44Z")

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“The Dungeon Lurk” sounds much more like fantasy than SF. The other one could be either.

Given that they were hidden in the floor, it strikes me that they may have some monetary value. Maybe they’re first editions or something.

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2017, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/32 "2017-04-24T12:16:21Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> The AV Club recap said what she found in the box were two books; The Dungeon Lurk and Planet Wym. The titles sound like science fiction. And they note that the thing she picked up as a weapon looked like a Hugo Award (although not exactly, based on the photos I found online). So was the grandfather an SF author?
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> As for Ewan MacGregor, I knew in advance that he was playing the dual role but I recognized him more as Ray than as Emmit.

And on rewatching last night, it appears the cover of Planet Wym has two figures (one a robot) in the same positions as the model the old man made.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_John_Marcej)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2017, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/33 "2017-04-24T14:39:26Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> The AV Club recap said what she found in the box were two books; The Dungeon Lurk and Planet Wym. The titles sound like science fiction. And they note that the thing she picked up as a weapon looked like a Hugo Award (although

Is that a way of indicating that science fiction may be involved in this story, connecting with the UFO in season 2?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/34 "2017-04-26T20:18:45Z")

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Off to a great start. A very Coenesque feel to the first episode, I’d say.

> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> …The cast give wonderful performances in this first episode: Ewan McGregor playing twins, one wealthy one not so (and differentiating them incredibly well), Mary Elizabeth Winstead as his girlfriend (she practically steals the show and I love her already), Michael Stuhlbarg…

Absolutely. Hard to believe McGregor is the same guy who was in _Trainspotting_ and played a young Obi-Wan Kenobi! And taking on two very different roles here - wow. Great work so far. I’ve been a Winstead fan since _Scott Pilgrim vs. the World_ and _Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter_; she’s terrific, too. Stuhlbarg also has Coen Bros. cred - he starred in their underrated (and IMHO very good) _A Serious Man_. Very talented actor.

> [@davidm](#):
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> …I’m thinking that the valuable stamp is Eastern European and is the link with the opening scene…

Could be. It seemed to depict Sisyphus pointlessly pushing his boulder up a hill, which I’m sure will metaphorically factor into this season: [Sisyphus - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisyphus)

> [@Shoeless](#):
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> And on rewatching last night, it appears the cover of Planet Wym has two figures (one a robot) in the same positions as the model the old man made.

Agreed. Didn’t the cop hear footsteps upstairs? But then it looked like the ex-con had left sometime before she and her son returned to get the carving.

> [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](#):
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> Is that a way of indicating that science fiction may be involved in this story, connecting with the UFO in season 2?

Ah, could be.

Remind me of the shared elements of each season with the original movie:

S1 - The ice scraper and money stash from the movie  
S2 - ?  
S3 - Maybe nothing so far

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/35 "2017-04-26T21:07:25Z")

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I thought the cop heard footsteps upstairs, but on rewatching I figured out what she actually heard was the door opening and footsteps from her son coming in.

One thing I don’t remember - in his rush to leave the apartment, did Ray remember to take his phone, or is it still on the edge of the tub in the bathroom? I wonder if the cops will find it and figure out he was there.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/36 "2017-04-26T21:25:52Z")

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> [@Panthan](#):
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> I read on the SDMB years ago that [this](https://youtu.be/-VsmF9m_Nt8) song is an example of what (American) English sounds like to someone who doesn’t speak it. It was bizarre to hear that turn up in the soundtrack to this episode. And If I’m not mistaken, the grandfather led into that scene by saying something like, “Now you’re speaking English” in response to getting served a beer.

“Prisencolinensinainciusol” —I’ve loved that piece of music deeply for years. The video of its 1972 debut on Italian television is classic (with the 1972 black-and-white version being superior to the later color version). “SOB,” over the end credits, was perfect, too.

Noah Hawley always has great music in his shows (in _Legion_, too). Must cost his productions a mint, but it’s worth it.

> [@Shoeless](#):
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> …One thing I don’t remember - in his rush to leave the apartment, did Ray remember to take his phone, or is it still on the edge of the tub in the bathroom? I wonder if the cops will find it and figure out he was there.

I also hoped that Nikki remembered to move that screw driver away from the empty space where the A/C unit used to be. It wouldn’t look good to have it within view.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/37 "2017-04-26T21:39:08Z")

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> [@JohnGalt](#):
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> - no way would you drive a Corvette in Minnesota in the winter, given its rear-wheel drive, usually non-grip slick tires, and especially the low clearance - you’d be constantly scraping the bottom of the vehicle on snow

Well that one is kind of intended isn’t it? he traded his fortune in rare stamps for the car, and now it’s old and beat up and he has nothing to show for it. He has to drive the car, his entire life turned on it.

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**Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/38 "2017-04-27T03:20:44Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Remind me of the shared elements of each season with the original movie:
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> S1 - The ice scraper and money stash from the movie  
> S2 - ?  
> S3 - Maybe nothing so far

On tonight’s episode Emmit mentioned contacting Stan Grossman, in case they were going to look into building condos on one of their sprawling parking lots. Could that be the same Stan Grossman from the original film? If so, is that the shared element?

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**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/39 "2017-04-28T01:12:20Z")

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> [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](#):
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> On tonight’s episode Emmit mentioned contacting Stan Grossman, in case they were going to look into building condos on one of their sprawling parking lots. Could that be the same Stan Grossman from the original film? If so, is that the shared element?

It HAS to be. All I can think of when they say parking lots is Jerry getting hosed by his FIL.

I don’t know if it was just me, but I didn’t like e2 as much as e1. I slept very poorly last night so when I watched this afternoon, I might have been just too tired to concentrate properly.

I had to look up on IMDB that McGregor really was playing both those roles when I saw the first one. He’s doing an exellent job.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/40 "2017-04-28T14:39:20Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> Well that one is kind of intended isn’t it? he traded his fortune in rare stamps for the car, and now it’s old and beat up and he has nothing to show for it. He has to drive the car, his entire life turned on it.

Yeah, seeing him driving that beat-up, salt-rimed Corvette around in the snow is a great visual metaphor for a once-promising life sunken into dissolution and despair.

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