# Fargo S3

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 12, 2017, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313 "2017-04-12T13:44:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_John_Marcej)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/101 "2017-05-11T22:07:09Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> The first time we saw something not work for her - the door to the store - she seemed surprised, like it was the first time it had happened, and she seems puzzled and annoyed everytime since. So it seems like this is something new in her life.

I thought that too, as if the moment her captainship was taken away from her, it’s as if she no longer exists.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/102 "2017-05-11T22:17:43Z")

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> [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](#):
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> I thought that too, as if the moment her captainship was taken away from her, it’s as if she no longer exists.

I think you broke the code! Her whole identity may be based on being captain.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/103 "2017-05-11T22:26:25Z")

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Chief.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_John_Marcej)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/104 "2017-05-11T23:43:31Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Chief.

D’oh! You’re right! My bad.:smack:

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/105 "2017-05-11T23:47:35Z")

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> [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](#):
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> D’oh! You’re right! My bad.:smack:

Hey, I spent an embarrassing amount of time trying to find out if her police rank WAS ‘captain’—doesn’t look that way, but it might have been the case. So you are not really bad; certainly I’m no expert on police ranks. Looks as though a captain could be the head of a police station and might get called ‘chief’, though of course that’s not the same thing as Chief of Police. All rather confusing to us civilians.

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**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/106 "2017-05-12T01:29:05Z")

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Another Minnesota nitpick - police departments are run by cities, sheriff departments are run by the county. They’d cooperate with each other, but mostly stick to the urban/rural split. The position of Sheriff is an elected office; the police chief is appointed, usually by the mayor.

There are lots of smaller cities without a police department, which rely on a sheriff and deputies for law enforcement, but St. Cloud and [Eden Valley](http://www.edenvalley.govoffice.com/index.asp?SEC=68B8686D-3083-4F4F-B4A1-1C8B591C6E9C&Type=B_BASIC) both have a police department. No way would a sheriff have any authority to take over a police department without the city council being involved; see [Forest Lake Police Disbanding](http://www.fox9.com/news/253880794-story) for some recent Minnesota politics on separation between the two departments.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/107 "2017-05-12T03:56:09Z")

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Great episode, and I think it really developed the season. I like how each season has similarities but splits off in different ways and with different overarching themes, with this season having Varga and income inequality being the villains.

> [@davidm](#):
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> And what is up with Gloria not registering with electronic sensors?

I think it’s just a more showy thing about her being out of touch with technology. She’s said she’s not on Facebook and I think she said something about not liking computers.

> [@davidm](#):
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> Also…  
> Varga bending over a toilet.  
> The origin of “Ennis Stussy”.
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> Surely not an accident?
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> Harking back to a theory I mentioned earlier, could Varga be the real Thaddeus Mobley?

I think the more likely explanation is the simpler one, that Thaddeus Mobley is Ennis Stussy as indicated on the show. It makes sense that the shy nerd who got in over his head in Hollywood and thought he killed a guy would change his name and lay low in Minnesota.

If anything I think it’s just showing the contrast between Mobley/Stussy and Varga. Mobley was so overwhelmed when he just thought he killed a guy that he got sick, compared to Varga who is seemingly unbothered by violence (although we haven’t seen him commit any that I remember) but he’ll purposely make himself sick after overindulging. The movie and each season have relatively normal people who get wrapped up in forces bigger than themselves, and the Stussys, the brothers and Mobley/Stussy, are those this season.

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**Author:** ![Crybaby\_Boobie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crybaby_boobie/32/545_2.png) [@Crybaby\_Boobie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crybaby_Boobie)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/108 "2017-05-12T14:56:19Z")

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I think Gloria’s invisibility to technology is going to come into play with Mr. Varga, who likes using tech to find things out. He’s not going to see her coming.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/109 "2017-05-12T15:10:50Z")

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> [@Crybaby\_Boobie](#):
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> I think Gloria’s invisibility to technology is going to come into play with Mr. Varga, who likes using tech to find things out. He’s not going to see her coming.

True. She apparently has no online presence. The doors, faucets, etc, not working for her are maybe symbolic of that.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/110 "2017-05-12T15:52:24Z")

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Ooo, I like that! Makes sense. Sometimes Old School is best.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/111 "2017-05-12T15:58:05Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Ooo, I like that! Makes sense. Sometimes Old School is best.

[No School like Old School!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuxCIaczUa0)

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/112 "2017-05-12T17:04:11Z")

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Anybody else notice that the name on the cremation bag in the bank box was Luverne? An easter egg from season two?

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/113 "2017-05-12T18:02:08Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Anybody else notice that the name on the cremation bag in the bank box was Luverne? An easter egg from season two?

I didn’t notice that, but I did think it unusual that the sole contents of his safe deposit box were his dog’s cremains.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/114 "2017-05-16T04:28:42Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Great to hear Billy Bob narrating _Peter and the Wolf_ - which reminds me that Martin Freeman also did some narration in the _Fargo_ season after which he appeared.
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> Favorite line so far: “Basically, this is now my only non-micturated footwear.”  
> Wonder if there’ll turn out to be some kind of science fiction-ey reason for it, hearkening back to her ex-stepfather’s books? I definitely expect it will have some plot significance.

I would be surprised if it does. I think it’s just quirky texture.

I loved the Billy Bob narration, although it kind of overshadows Varga in a way. Malvo was so great.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/115 "2017-05-18T04:14:05Z")

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“Have a drink.”

Yuck

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/116 "2017-05-18T22:25:15Z")

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That was a rough episode (coffee mug and all). Thought for sure we’d lost an interesting character.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/117 "2017-05-19T02:08:55Z")

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I want to smack Gloria’s new boss.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/118 "2017-05-19T02:27:52Z")

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Why didn’t Emmit tell the IRS agent that it was his brother who took out the $10,000, without his knowledge?

Varga’s response to problem was pure evil - asking if the IRS agent has children.

Speaking of Varga; I think the writers are deliberately subverting the trope of the suave sophisticated foreign accented evil mastermind.

Not only are his motives evil, his manners, his appearance, even his personal habits, are disgusting.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/119 "2017-05-19T02:51:48Z")

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To me, it seemed that Varga’s bulimia was symbolic - he is a man with a huge appetite, but once he’s full he just vomits it all up and eats some more. It wasn’t about real nourishment, but merely satisfying his craving. That’s what he’s doing to Stussy and Co.

And I thought it was a bit out of character to just have the girl beaten. Varga is a guy who murders people who simply look him up on the internet. That girl is a major complication, and is responsible for bringing the IRS into the situation. He should have casually squashed her like a bug. What I expected to happen is that the thugs were going to kill Sy and the girl, or kill the girl in front of Sy to keep him in line.

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**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s3/784313/120 "2017-05-19T03:35:29Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> To me, it seemed that Varga’s bulimia was symbolic - he is a man with a huge appetite, but once he’s full he just vomits it all up and eats some more. It wasn’t about real nourishment, but merely satisfying his craving. That’s what he’s doing to Stussy and Co.
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> And I thought it was a bit out of character to just have the girl beaten. Varga is a guy who murders people who simply look him up on the internet. That girl is a major complication, and is responsible for bringing the IRS into the situation. He should have casually squashed her like a bug. What I expected to happen is that the thugs were going to kill Sy and the girl, or kill the girl in front of Sy to keep him in line.

I don’t think they expected her to live thru that.

THat was brutal.

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