# Fargo Season 5 discussion (Starts 21NOV2023)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\
**Created:** [November 16, 2023, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228 "2023-11-16T08:16:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/241 "2024-01-12T21:40:16Z")

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> [@Hampshire](#):
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> Lorraine, Scotty, Indira. I’d be kind of disappointed if they’re stories just kind of ended where they are.

Indira finally grew up and dumped her waste of air husband. That is a good ending.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/242 "2024-01-12T21:45:25Z")

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I’d still love to see one more scene of him truly suffering.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/243 "2024-01-12T21:50:10Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Indira finally grew up and dumped her waste of air husband. That is a good ending.

And her waste of a job in a toxic sheriff’s office. Win-Win for her! Unless she is killed in the next episode…

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/244 "2024-01-12T21:50:51Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> I’d still love to see one more scene of him truly suffering.

He is not evil. Just an idiot.

Life without his practical wife will be punishment enuf.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/245 "2024-01-12T21:56:15Z")

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He’s not Roy level evil. He is evil though. He’s cruel to his wife and doesn’t do his fair share of the work. He’s also an idiot. If he was a hapless but kind idiot, I’d agree. He thinks he’s lucky to be rid of her.

Lorraine and her credit company and top lawyers can make it so that he gets debt fucked in the divorce and she comes off in good shape.

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/246 "2024-01-16T12:02:00Z")

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When Roy was searching for Dot in the dugout, he set something up on the door jamb, or maybe in the rafters. Maybe a pistol? When he did it, he said “Just in case.”

Is anybody clear on what was happening there? And was that a dead dog on the floor?

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**Author:** ![Hatchie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hatchie/32/3983_2.png) [@Hatchie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hatchie)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/247 "2024-01-16T14:54:17Z")

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I discovered I could download the subtitles for the final episode (airing tonight). Of course could not resist peeking at them. An interesting way to experience a program - you get the words spoken but you’re not always clear who’s saying what.

Anyway, I know how it ends. I won’t blab it here, but

in case you’re interested, Dorothy, kind soul that she is, offers Munch a way out of his 500-year spell in Purgatory.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/248 "2024-01-16T15:02:46Z")

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My guess is he is setting himself a way out should things not go his way.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/249 "2024-01-16T15:07:14Z")

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> [@TruCelt](#):
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> When Roy was searching for Dot in the dugout, he set something up on the door jamb, or maybe in the rafters. Maybe a pistol? When he did it, he said “Just in case.”

Seemed like to me he flipped the lights in the tunnel on and left them on ‘just in case’ but I could have missed something.

I think that was a dead goat (calf?) on the floor - the one Munch slaughtered earlier when he left a message for the Tillmans. Doesn’t look like they use the dugout enough to notice slaughtered animals lying there for days on end.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/250 "2024-01-16T15:10:21Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> Seemed like to me he flipped the lights in the tunnel on and left them on ‘just in case’ but I could have missed something.

That’s what I thought as well. It seemed awkward to me like the spoken line was added afterwards to make something more clear.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/251 "2024-01-16T15:18:31Z")

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> [@Hatchie](#):
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> I discovered I could download the subtitles for the final episode (airing tonight). Of course could not resist peeking at them.

_ **Of course** _ you could not resist peeking?!? No offense, to each their own, but to spoil the ending of a cracking good season of Fargo by reading out of full context subtitles sounds like an awful thing to do. I am looking forward to experiencing the full experience of the ending, myself. I would never click on your spoiler link before watching the last episode. Thank you for spoiler-blurring and not just giving the end away.

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**Author:** ![Hatchie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hatchie/32/3983_2.png) [@Hatchie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hatchie)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/252 "2024-01-16T16:09:37Z")

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Oh, I don’t consider it spoiled. I really only have a broad outline of what happens. Will be fun to watch it and fill in the blanks.

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**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/253 "2024-01-16T21:29:12Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> I think that was a dead goat (calf?) on the floor - the one Munch slaughtered earlier when he left a message for the Tillmans.

I think that’s right. When they showed Roy looking at the goat there was also a brief transparency of a face that flashed on the screen that I couldn’t make out. Would make sense if it was of Munch.

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/254 "2024-01-16T21:30:24Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> I think that was a dead goat (calf?) on the floor - the one Munch slaughtered earlier when he left a message for the Tillmans.

That makes sense. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/255 "2024-01-16T21:32:44Z")

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I find it interesting that none of us has found it necessary even to mention Dot wrenching out Danish’s thigh bone as a weapon. Her willingness to go to any lengths is just normalized at this point.

Hard to believe they will manage to sew all of this up in one hour.

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/256 "2024-01-16T21:33:35Z")

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> [@Hatchie](#):
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> I discovered I could download the subtitles for the final episode (airing tonight).

Fascinating. Please DM me the method?

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/257 "2024-01-16T21:42:04Z")

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> [@TruCelt](#):
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> Her willingness to go to any lengths is just normalized at this point.

Munch calls her a “tiger” for good reason, but it occurred to me that Munch has some supernatural abilities besides just being 500 years old. He was somehow able to overcome Gator from the back of a patrol vehicle with a divider, and also was apparently able to conjure up smoke/fog to help him take out Roy’s boys. So why did he have so much difficulty capturing Dot in episode 1? It seems like his bag of tricks should be just as good or better than hers.

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/258 "2024-01-16T21:44:29Z")

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Munch seems to have a soft spot for women. Or maybe it’s for good people who are just trying to go about their business and being picked on by bad folks.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/259 "2024-01-16T21:56:04Z")

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Seems like it’s tied into the concept of debt (Indira and Lorraine being other aspects of that) and being a sin-eater. He’s trapped in an ever increasing debt load of sin. The Tillmans (or at least Gator) tried to cheat him. He didn’t care about the money, per se, but he did care they did that and that the old woman died as a result.

Other than his longevity (possibly extending to surviving mortal wounds), it doesn’t seem like he has supernatural abilities. He overpowered Gator because Gator is dumb and weak. I don’t think he conjured the mist, either, so much as took advantage of it.

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**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/260 "2024-01-16T21:56:58Z")

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I never fully understood the screen from Wales in 1522. What was he eating? Was he being punished and if so, for what? And the punishment made him immortal?

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