# Fargo Season 5 discussion (Starts 21NOV2023) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\ **Created:** [November 16, 2023, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228 "2023-11-16T08:16:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/381 "2024-03-08T01:46:54Z")
It was call outs to other Coen movies too. Totally gratuitous and not necessary at all to the plot. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/382 "2024-03-08T05:40:03Z")
BUT THE ENTIRE SERIES DOES THAT. (Respectfully). ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/383 "2024-03-08T06:15:43Z")
As I said, there was much more in the most recent season than in the previous ones. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/384 "2024-03-08T13:09:16Z")
Was there? Seemed to me about the same as the first few seasons. I’d guess it is the simpler conclusion that some references are just going to be easier for some people to catch than others for whatever reason. Not everybody catches the same things the same way. This thread is proof of that - there’s a lot of details and plot points that some caught and others didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/385 "2024-03-09T17:15:45Z")
I have to admit that the final three episodes redeemed the warm mess that preceded them. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2024, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/386 "2024-03-30T21:46:42Z")
Did Roy rape Dot? I mean after the failed sheriff election debate, I know he raped her plenty in the past. ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/387 "2024-04-02T17:17:12Z")
One thing that puzzled me a little. Roy marries Linda; she later disappears (presumed murdered). But it’s clear that he didn’t divorce her, nor is there an official death certificate somewhere. Then he “marries” a 15-year-old, who can’t legally give consent anyway, while still legally married to his first wife. When Dot eventually escapes and goes into hiding, he “marries” the third wife, again, without benefit of divorce from the second (or the first). These last two marriages are clearly not valid. Roy thinks he’s above the law and can do what he wants; or maybe he thinks he should be allowed multiple wives like the patriarchs. His third wife, who clearly knew about Dot, was pretty messed up or she wouldn’t have consented to this arrangement. She must know she’s not really Roy’s wife, just his concubine. But when FBI guys were talking about the disappearance of his first two wives, did it never occur to them that bigamy or statutory rape might be a pretty easy charge to make stick? I will also say that I never expected Jon Hamm to have nipple rings. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/388 "2024-04-02T17:31:53Z")
‘Wives’ in this season for him never meant ‘legally married’. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/389 "2024-04-02T19:58:27Z")
> [@Toxgoddess](#): > > These last two marriages are clearly not valid. If Linda is dead, death cert or no, the marriage can be valid. > [@Toxgoddess](#): > > But when FBI guys were talking about the disappearance of his first two wives, did it never occur to them that bigamy or statutory rape might be a pretty easy charge to make stick? Those are State crimes, not Federal. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/390 "2024-04-02T20:37:11Z")
I’m sure a guy like Roy would just claim thatnthey were married ‘under god’ and that’s all he needed. And those women didn’t seem to have any agency, so no need for docu,entation. They were basically concubines kept on his ranch. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/391 "2024-04-02T23:10:33Z")
Lorraine kinda explained this when claiming Dot, someone missing for more than seven years is legally considered dead. ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/392 "2024-04-03T12:51:27Z")
She did but I don’t think it’s automatic. Someone would have to file some.paperwork somewhere. It’s a minor issue but it still nagged at me a bit. As a fun mental exercise I also started tabulating the crimes Roy could be plausibly tried for-recent ones with evidence and witnesses. Kidnapping of Dot and the cancer patient; murder of the cancer patient, Danish Graves, Whit Farr and the asshole father-in-law (is his body still on the porch?). Plus assorted obstruction and assault charges against the FBI; and maybe theft and illegal distribution of weapons. Probably others but those would be enough to start with. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/393 "2024-04-03T12:56:27Z")
Roy runs that county. He wouldn’t have a problem getting death certificates or marriage licenses. ---
**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/394 "2024-04-08T16:38:34Z")
> [@Toxgoddess](#): > > I will also say that I never expected Jon Hamm to have nipple rings. I don’t think he actually did. IIRC he said the makeup artists stuck prosthetic nipples with nipple rings over his real nipples for that scene. ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/395 "2024-04-08T23:13:15Z")
Hm. Interesting choice. Would not have thought his character the type to go for nipple rings. ---
**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/396 "2024-04-08T23:18:26Z")
> **[Why Noah Hawley Had Jon Hamm Wear Nipple Rings in ‘Fargo’](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/noah-hawley-jon-hamm-nipple-rings-fargo-1235648704/)** > > "We live in 'Tiger King' America, right — there's a hedonism to the Christian Right that is unexpected," Hawley explained of the accessory choice for Hamm's North Dakota sheriff character. ---
**Author:** ![JacobSwan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@JacobSwan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JacobSwan)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/397 "2024-04-09T10:40:19Z")
> [@WildaBeast](#): > > IIRC he said the makeup artists stuck prosthetic nipples with nipple rings over his real nipples for that scene. I can’t read that without thinking of TMBG “we want a rock”. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/398 "2024-04-09T16:46:23Z")
> [@JacobSwan](#): > > I can’t read that without thinking of TMBG “we want a rock” I can’t read this without thinking of ItGPCB “I got a rock.”. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2024, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/399 "2024-05-24T23:29:48Z")
I finally got around to watching Season 5. I really liked it. My only disappointment was that I felt the final episode was a bit of a damp squib. I would rate my favourite seasons (from most liked to least liked): - Season 2 - Season 5 - Season 1 (scenes without Martin Freeman) - Season 4 - Season 1 (scenes with Martin Freeman) - {crickets chirping} - {more crickets chirping} - Season 3 ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2024, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/400 "2024-05-25T00:11:22Z")
I’d swap out season 3 and 4. Season 4 should have been a lot more fun than it was. By contrast, season 3 was supposed to be peak depression, and it succeeded admirably. I think we all know who was right in that final scene. Not showing us was an act of mercy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228.md?page=21)