# Fargo Season 5 discussion (Starts 21NOV2023) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\ **Created:** [November 16, 2023, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228 "2023-11-16T08:16:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2023, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/41 "2023-12-05T11:18:02Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > Except that if Gator is the Sheriff’s son then isn’t Dot his Mom? Well, Joe Keery is only 3 years older than Juno Temple, so probably not. Of course, Angela Lansbury was only 3 years older than Laurence Harvey in The Manchurian Candidate, so there’s precedent, but I don’t think Dot is supposed to be his mother. Either way, I really just meant it as a Stranger Things joke since the nail bat is Steve’s (Joe Keery) signature weapon on that show. ---
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2023, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/42 "2023-12-05T11:24:42Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I think Gator is the sheriff’s son by an earlier wife, so Dot is his stepmother. > [@hajario](#): > > That was my impression as well Maybe I was actually on to something with the Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt Mole Women reference. Or not. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/43 "2023-12-06T00:30:33Z")
> [@zbuzz](#): > > Kimmy Schmidt Mole Women reference. I haven’t seen it, so I’m not quite sure. But I was deeply horrified at how inured the present (Mrs.?) Sheriff was to being treated like a prostitute. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/44 "2023-12-06T05:34:14Z")
(Spoilers for episode 4 below.) The Home Aloning wasn’t as elaborate or slapstick as I had hoped. But layering _The Nightmare Before Christmas_ and Tiny Tim doing Sunny and Cher on top of that made up for it. I don’t understand the “boogieman came and left a warning in the kid’s room” scene. Whose body are they wrapping in the tarp? Was there a guard in the house that was killed off-screen and not shown? ---
**Author:** ![Raza](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raza/32/213_2.png) [@Raza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raza)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/45 "2023-12-07T00:27:08Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Whose body are they wrapping in the tarp? There were several that were pushed/fell down stairs, including into the basement. I suspect it was the intruder who ended up in the basement, as in a later scene she goes down to the basement and seems unconcerned. “Pancakes!” ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/46 "2023-12-07T00:32:49Z")
> [@Raza](#): > > There were several that were pushed/fell down stairs, including into the basement. No, that was the Nightmare crew arriving home, and the son asking what happened with the dead guy. The body wasn’t from their group. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/47 "2023-12-07T04:31:20Z")
I thought Gater specifically told maceface and comodehead to ‘grab the stiff’ on the way out the door. The ‘stiff’ being the one hit with the sledgehammer. That, of course, doesn’t mean thats who was being wrapped with the tarp - the statement was that Munch left a message. Munch may have left more than one. “go mom!” ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/48 "2023-12-07T06:22:05Z")
Nope, the scene is Gator and the crew arriving back at the compound from their failed mission. All four people get out of the van, so all four survived. Gator walks up to two people wrapping a body in a tarp and asks what happened and they tell him that the boogieman came for a visit. This is the dead man: [![](https://i.postimg.cc/brfGYdnt/fargodeadman.jpg) ](https://i.postimg.cc/brfGYdnt/fargodeadman.jpg) This is not any of the three Ranch Davidians we have seen Munch kill so far (two when Gator tried to kill him, one at the gas station). If Munch killed this man during his visit to paint the wall it wasn’t shown or even mentioned. I have no idea who this man is or why he is dead, and none of the summaries I’ve found online even mention this point at all. (There seems to be a bloody cut on his throat like with Munch’s kill at the gas pump.) ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/49 "2023-12-07T13:20:15Z")
When the FBI agents were meeting with their boss about the sheriff, one of them mentioned a deputy who got killed and was buried within 12 hours. I assumed that was the one killed at the gas station, and it makes sense that that’s who they were wrapping up on the porch. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/50 "2023-12-07T13:23:39Z")
The deputy was already buried by then. Before Ole went into the sheriffs house he killed a guard. It was that guy. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/51 "2023-12-07T13:29:08Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Before Ole went into the sheriffs house he killed a guard. I did a lot of scrolling around before, trying to find something like that and failed. Tried again just now and I found it, just a small handful of seconds (broken up by shots of Ole being weird) starting around 38:05 in 5x03. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/52 "2023-12-07T13:40:36Z")
In this last episode, I couldn’t get past the masks the deputies were wearing for the attack. They weren’t something that they picked up at Walmart on the way to her house, they must have ordered them online weeks ago and each one looked like it was bulky and uncomfortable. The whole episode, I was thinking that those masks looked like they cost a lot of money. I just found it all kind of affected. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/53 "2023-12-07T13:45:03Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > They weren’t something that they picked up at Walmart on the way to her house, > **[Robot or human?](https://www.walmart.com/blocked?url=L2lwL0xvY2stU2hvY2stQmFycmVsLTMtTWFzay1TZXQtTmlnaHRtYXJlLUJlZm9yZS1DaHJpc3RtYXMtQ29zdHVtZS1BY2Nlc3NvcnktQWR1bHQtVGVlbi82Nzg1NjQzMTg=&uuid=21a8686f-0df4-11f1-a0a8-4c19536ec4f0&vid=&g=b)** Might not be the exact ones, though. (I didn’t search directly for Walmart, that just happened to be [some of the top images that came up](https://www.google.com/search?q=nightmare+before+christmas+masks+on+fargo&client=firefox-b-1-m&sca_esv=588736867&channel=ts&biw=504&bih=991&sxsrf=AM9HkKl7kqag2fqyIQQO2tBOnxLTKvDPkQ:1701957344667&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi69c2Xvf2CAxUQh-4BHd1CAycQ_AUIBg).) ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/54 "2023-12-07T14:10:17Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > I couldn’t get past the masks the deputies were wearing for the attack…each one looked like it was bulky and uncomfortable. Not to mention, whenever they showed a POV from one of the ‘Skellington’ crew, it showed that the masks _seriously_ restricted their peripheral vision. _ **Not** _ a good idea when going up against Dot in a ‘Home Alone’ style booby-trapped house. I have to say, I’m really enjoying this season so far. It feels like a bit of a ‘return to form’ after S.4, which I couldn’t get into for whatever reason-- it seemed too disjointed or unfocused or something. ---
**Author:** ![spifflog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@spifflog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spifflog)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/55 "2023-12-07T17:15:49Z")
> [@solost](#): > > Not to mention, whenever they showed a POV from one of the ‘Skellington’ crew, it showed that the masks _seriously_ restricted their peripheral vision. I know, but this would be funny if it was in a comedy thou right??? Wait a minute . . . ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/56 "2023-12-07T17:34:54Z")
> [@solost](#): > > Not to mention, whenever they showed a POV from one of the ‘Skellington’ crew, it showed that the masks _seriously_ restricted their peripheral vision. _ **Not** _ a good idea when going up against Dot in a ‘Home Alone’ style booby-trapped house. > > I have to say, I’m really enjoying this season so far. It feels like a bit of a ‘return to form’ after S.4, which I couldn’t get into for whatever reason-- it seemed too disjointed or unfocused or something. It was show breaking for me, but just a little over the top. In general, I like this season so far. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/57 "2023-12-07T20:16:51Z")
I _loved_ the Tiny Tim version of “I Got You, Babe.” I kinda want it on my playlist. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2023, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/58 "2023-12-10T18:12:51Z")
For me, the music tracks are the most annoying part of this season. Loud, intrusive, and with little relevance to the scenes. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/59 "2023-12-13T02:27:45Z")
Episode 5 was excellent, didn’t want it to end. All the players are coming together. You do _not_ mess with Dot. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228/60 "2023-12-13T03:22:03Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > I _loved_ the Tiny Tim version of “I Got You, Babe.” TIL, Eleanore Buruchian (of The Cake) sings the “Sonny” parts. For a while there, I thought Tim sang both parts. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-season-5-discussion-starts-21nov2023/993228.md?page=4)