# Farrah Abraham's sex tape

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 14, 2013, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/farrah-abrahams-sex-tape/655669 "2013-04-14T08:58:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/farrah-abrahams-sex-tape/655669/42 "2013-04-29T20:52:11Z")

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Ok that is true, but there are very few ways a porno company can get mentioned in mainstream outlets.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/farrah-abrahams-sex-tape/655669/43 "2013-04-29T21:06:29Z")

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> [@pancakes3](#):
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> According to my lawyer friends, a lot of porn companies are going after people who torrent it. They just go after all the seeders/leachers IP’s and send out mass letters to threaten litigation and settle out of court. A list of 2-300 users that are willing to settle out of court for a hefty amount (I think my friends said something amounting to upwards of $2k a case) is common practice now.

_That’s_ the business model? Know that sites are going to illegally stream it, and then threaten to sue?

Man the internet is weird.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/farrah-abrahams-sex-tape/655669/44 "2013-04-29T21:35:30Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> Then there is \*overtly \*going into porn after your 15 minutes are up: “OctoMom” Nadya Suleman became a touring stripper and signed on with a “mainstream” porn studio last year, by all reports getting a fair but not stupendous payday. WWE’s Joanie “Chyna” Lawler released amateur-porn tapes with some modest success and eventually it led to going into professional porn. In both cases the trip happened over a period of a few years.

Don’t forget John Wayne Bobbitt.

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**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/farrah-abrahams-sex-tape/655669/45 "2013-04-29T21:58:47Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> _That’s_ the business model? Know that sites are going to illegally stream it, and then threaten to sue?
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> Man the internet is weird.

There has to be more to the story than this. Why pay $1M for this video? No doubt there are thousands of Vivid videos currently on torrent right now. It seems they could just go after those people.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/farrah-abrahams-sex-tape/655669/46 "2013-04-29T22:48:51Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> Well, it seems the negotiations have borne fruit…  
> [http://m.nydailynews.com/1.1330172](http://m.nydailynews.com/1.1330172)
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> Cool payday… Well played in the end, after all. And if Vivid thinks it worth that much there must be something to it (apparently, harder-core material than Octomom’s)

From the linked story:

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> Farrah Abraham spotted arriving at LAX Airport with daughter Sophia and grandpa Michael coming from Dallas. They reportedly accompanied her to her sex tape negotiation meeting.

Ugh. I seriously hope I never have to accompany my daughter (or son) to a sex tape negotiation meeting. Awk-ward.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2013, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/farrah-abrahams-sex-tape/655669/47 "2013-04-30T00:54:58Z")

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She brought her five-year-old daughter to the negotiations for the sale of her porn tape?

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**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2013, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/farrah-abrahams-sex-tape/655669/48 "2013-04-30T01:59:15Z")

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> [@pancakes3](#):
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> According to my lawyer friends, a lot of porn companies are going after people who torrent it. They just go after all the seeders/leachers IP’s and send out mass letters to threaten litigation and settle out of court. A list of 2-300 users that are willing to settle out of court for a hefty amount (I think my friends said something amounting to upwards of $2k a case) is common practice now.
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> I’m willing to bet that this one will have a lot more than 2-300 seeders/leachers and potentially could be worth 6 figures. That and the publicity. It does however set a horrible precedent in terms of asking prices.
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> Also, I feel bad for octomom now.

I doubt it. Porn companies do do this (it happened to someone I know), but they generally don’t collect that much money. Even when people settle, the lawyer takes their cut. Plus, the courts are starting to catch on to this scam and people are [counter suing](http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120710/12331219649/class-action-racketeering-lawsuit-filed-against-copyright-trolling-porn-companies.shtml), so this is not the course of action most porn companies use to get money anymore. It’s usually not worth the effort

I would bet this is more so a matter of both parties agreeing to say that the deal is worth a million when the reality is it will pay far less. Kinda like NFL contracts. That said, Vivid will likely make a good amount of money due to web traffic and video sales. Probably not enough to justify paying her that much, but maybe they think it’s worth it as an investment.

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**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2013, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/farrah-abrahams-sex-tape/655669/49 "2013-04-30T02:07:14Z")

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I could believe they made a deal “worth” $1M. They pay $X up front and then Y% of the profits until $1M is reached. If the video is wildly successful, then she makes $1M. Otherwise, it’s dependent on what the sales are.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2013, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/farrah-abrahams-sex-tape/655669/50 "2013-04-30T02:48:33Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> She brought her five-year-old daughter to the negotiations for the sale of her porn tape?

I suppose Grandad took the grandkid to the park after dropping off Mom at the lawyers’ office for her negotiations. At least I hope it was something like that. 'Cause there’s family values and then there’s family values, y’know.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/farrah-abrahams-sex-tape/655669/51 "2013-04-30T03:08:25Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> I suppose Grandad took the grandkid to the park after dropping off Mom at the lawyers’ office for her negotiations. At least I hope it was something like that. 'Cause there’s family values and then there’s family values, y’know.

I’d like to think that. But according to the report, _“The rookie porn actress was even spotted entering a negotiations meeting with her father and daughter.”_ That seems pretty unambiguous that her daughter was there in the room.

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**Author:** ![3\_20\_59\_or\_bust](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/47e85d/32.png) [@3\_20\_59\_or\_bust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3_20_59_or_bust)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2013, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/farrah-abrahams-sex-tape/655669/52 "2013-04-30T04:34:22Z")

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> [@brickbacon](#):
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> I doubt it. Porn companies do do this (it happened to someone I know), but they generally don’t collect that much money. Even when people settle, the lawyer takes their cut. Plus, the courts are starting to catch on to this scam and people are [counter suing](http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120710/12331219649/class-action-racketeering-lawsuit-filed-against-copyright-trolling-porn-companies.shtml), so this is not the course of action most porn companies use to get money anymore. It’s usually not worth the effort
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> I would bet this is more so a matter of both parties agreeing to say that the deal is worth a million when the reality is it will pay far less. Kinda like NFL contracts. That said, Vivid will likely make a good amount of money due to web traffic and video sales. Probably not enough to justify paying her that much, but maybe they think it’s worth it as an investment.

To my knowledge, Vivid is not one of the troll porn companies suing for copyright infringement.

Read more than you want to know here:  
[fightcopyrighttrolls.com](http://fightcopyrighttrolls.com/)

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**Author:** ![Sunshine\_and\_Smiles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Sunshine\_and\_Smiles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunshine_and_Smiles)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2013, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/farrah-abrahams-sex-tape/655669/53 "2013-04-30T04:54:25Z")

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James Deen is on track to become a relatively household name - perhaps the next legendary male of porn. My somewhat degenerate but generally integrated friends and I are familiar with him and his, ahem, work. As far as the semi-mainstream is concerned, before this he did ‘The Canyons’ with Lindsey Lohan, and in searching for that I found t[his](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/05/james-deen-the-canyons_n_2808725.html) video of him saying that wearing condoms violates his first amendment rights. Interesting. Aside from that, I’m familiar with him from a few sexy videos he’s done, including one made to look like a homemade scene involving two bored girls and a pool…

In the world of the porn star, any publicity is definitely good publicity.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/farrah-abrahams-sex-tape/655669/54 "2013-05-01T02:37:53Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I’d like to think that. But according to the report, _“The rookie porn actress was even spotted entering a negotiations meeting with her father and daughter.”_ That seems pretty unambiguous that her daughter was there in the room.

Or at least in the office. In which case, may I add:

Ew  
Just showing up with my legal-adult offspring to back them up in negotiations for sale of something called “Backdoor Teen Mom”, would make me feel kind of squirmy. Nevermind bringing the preschooler along. They’d potentially expose themselves to some nice people with clipboards showing up asking questions.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/farrah-abrahams-sex-tape/655669/57 "2013-05-01T04:39:07Z")

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> [@Atomsk](#):
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> You poor brainwashed girl you. Im pretty sure ALL male pornstars are “enjoying it” when theyre anal gangbanging and chokefucking some dumb drug addicted tramp who would rather get sexually abused than work a real job. Oh and he wanted to be in porn since KINDERGARTEN? Wow, thats totally normal and not at all weird! I mean what 5 year old kid DOESNT dream of S&M gangbangs all day long?
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> And he HOLDS HANDS with the girls whose anuses he prolapses and whose blindfolded faces he forces down on other mens penises! How sweet! Aint that just the most adorable thing youve ever heard!
> 
> James Deen has a really really really really good PR firm working for him. Hes just the harmless Jewish serial rapist boy next door! The kind you wouldnt mind your daughter getting spitroasted by!

Wow, this is a pretty whacked out post.

> [@Atomsk](#):
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> James Deen has also been quoted saying, “The Jews know we’re better than everyone else. That’s all that matters. It’s true. We’re the Chosen People. It’s a fact.”
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> So now you know why his public media profile has seemed to explode overnight into a household name. Now you know why the Feminists LOVE him, even though he exemplifies literally every single thing Feminists define as pure male evil. Hes yet another Horseman of the Apocalypse from the Zionist media, sent to mainstream degeneracy and corruption into the public consciousness. James Deen’s PR people LITERALLY consider underage teenage girls to be his main target demographic. They openly admit this. You can find “Feminist” blogs full of women saying theyre GLAD that their underage daughters watch James Deen’s porn, because hes “sex positive”, which apparently means he loves to fuck washed up reality stars up the ass for money and publicity.

And yet you managed to top it so quickly.

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**Author:** ![3trew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/13edae/32.png) [@3trew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3trew)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/farrah-abrahams-sex-tape/655669/58 "2013-05-01T07:36:48Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Wow, this is a pretty whacked out post.  
> And yet you managed to top it so quickly.

Oh, come on now. He or she mentioned Jews, Feminists, and Zionists. What more proof of rational good intent could you ask for? For fuck’s sake, the ALL CAPS on the IMPORTANT WORDS were right there. It’s like you didn’t even notice the repeated references to anuses.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/farrah-abrahams-sex-tape/655669/59 "2013-05-01T11:30:56Z")

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> [@Atomsk](#):
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> James Deen has also been quoted saying, “The Jews know we’re better than everyone else. That’s all that matters. It’s true. We’re the Chosen People. It’s a fact.”
> 
> … Hes yet another Horseman of the Apocalypse from the Zionist media, sent to mainstream degeneracy and corruption into the public consciousness…

We don’t tolerate hate speech here. I have issued you a warning. You may want to reconsider whether the SDMB is a good fit for you.

**twickster** , Cafe Society moderator

ETA: Oh hell, these are your only two posts. I’ll go ahead and ban you now.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/farrah-abrahams-sex-tape/655669/60 "2013-05-01T18:07:26Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> I’ll go ahead and ban you now.

Can’t we keep him? Please? We promise we’ll feed him and play with him every day.

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**Author:** ![karmadir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71e660/32.png) [@karmadir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/karmadir)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/farrah-abrahams-sex-tape/655669/61 "2013-05-08T07:33:48Z")

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Shortest Way to get Fame.  
Paris Hilton has really shown the way.

Then,Kim Kardarshian,now Farrah Abraham.  
It’s an instant way to get fame.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/farrah-abrahams-sex-tape/655669/62 "2013-05-08T07:59:06Z")

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Vivid has posted a five minute preview tape online. So anyone who wants to see Farrah Abraham having sex can now do it.

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**Author:** ![bobkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@bobkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobkitty)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/farrah-abrahams-sex-tape/655669/63 "2013-05-08T11:16:00Z")

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Apparently the first day access of the Vivid site not only blew Kim K’s record out of the water (2 million views vice 600,000) but also crashed the servers for seven minutes.

( there is no way to type or read that sentence without innuendo…)

I wonder whether the interest was in her or her costar.

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