# Fashions you never got

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fashions-you-never-got/461378>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 27, 2008, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fashions-you-never-got/461378 "2008-08-27T02:07:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Pixilated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/aeb1de/32.png) [@Pixilated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pixilated)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2008, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fashions-you-never-got/461378/161 "2008-09-08T11:05:03Z")

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Has anyone mentioned BIG HAIR yet?

I still see this style in the South (ewwwww)! As a matter of fact, I was tempted to act like a brat and shot spitballs in the fluffy over-hairsprayed hairdo this lady had when I took my kids out to eat.

Bad Mom for even thinking of doing such a thing. 😛

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2008, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fashions-you-never-got/461378/162 "2008-09-08T13:44:15Z")

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> [@anya\_marie](#):
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> Went to Walmart to pick up a few things, looked at bras, but the padding! Seriously the padding was so thick; you’d have to be dead to miss it. No bras for me that day! I should go someplace where i can be fitted

Oh, good one. I have enough of a complex about my tiny tits without having to hunt through all these bras so helpfully designed to disguise my freakish failings!

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2008, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fashions-you-never-got/461378/163 "2008-09-08T13:51:04Z")

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> [@Dung\_Beetle](#):
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> Oh, good one. I have enough of a complex about my tiny tits without having to hunt through all these bras so helpfully designed to disguise my freakish failings!

I’m not sure it’s about your freakish failings. I’m a 34D, and it’s \*still \*hard to find unpadded bras.

> [@anya marie](#):
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> Nightgowns!

Speaking of things I’ve never gotten…

I’m not a big fan of pajamas anyway. Underwear and maybe a tank top for me, anything else is too much, and besides I don’t buy 1000 thread count sheets so that I can put a bunch of clothes in between them and myself.

But even if it’s cold enough that you’ve gotta wear something, I still don’t get why you’d choose a nightgown. Doesn’t it just bunch up on you?

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2008, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fashions-you-never-got/461378/164 "2008-09-08T14:08:05Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> I’m not sure it’s about your freakish failings. I’m a 34D, and it’s \*still \*hard to find unpadded bras.

Well, that’s good to know. Of course, I’m in my right mind at the moment (i.e., not clothes shopping). When I’m actually in a store not finding anything, it’s all because I’m hideously deformed and should just gratefully accept the clothing manufacturer’s attempt to help me live among the normals…

Oh, I have problems. 🙂

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**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2008, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fashions-you-never-got/461378/165 "2008-09-08T14:08:49Z")

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> [@anya\_marie](#):
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> What’s going on with this jeans and high heels thing in which the hem of the jean covers the shoe? Shouldn’t the hem hit right at the ankle?

It looks better? Wearing jeans that stop at the ankles with high heels makes your legs look stumpy. If you have your jeans (or trousers) end at the break of the shoe (so they’re basically about 1/2" from the ground), it makes your legs look longer. I dunno about you, but my legs need all the visual length they can get.

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2008, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fashions-you-never-got/461378/166 "2008-09-08T14:12:18Z")

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> What’s going on with this jeans and high heels thing in which the hem of the jean covers the shoe? Shouldn’t the hem hit right at the ankle?

No. Never. Not unless you’re actually attempting to look like that kid from junior high school with the “floods”.

Your hem should be about 1/2 inch from the ground, no matter how high your heels are.

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**Author:** ![Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hazle_Weatherfield)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2008, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fashions-you-never-got/461378/167 "2008-09-08T14:49:52Z")

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[quote=“anya\_marie, post:160, topic:461378”]

Bellbottoms or flares

What’s going on with this jeans and high heels thing in which the hem of the jean covers the shoe? Shouldn’t the hem hit right at the ankle?

Actually, the bottom of the jeans should go almost all the way down to the floor (some fashion expert said so on Oprah…week cite, I know.) I have seen this look where the pants only come down to the heel and it looks pretty bad, IMHO.

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**Author:** ![kittenblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ba8739/32.png) [@kittenblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kittenblue)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2008, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fashions-you-never-got/461378/168 "2008-09-08T15:07:02Z")

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> [@anya\_marie](#):
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> Two things i want to buy  
> Nightgowns! A long light COTTON gown without sleeves would be nice for several occasions ideally in solid colors; no polyester, and i have no clue where to get them. Short sleeved silk blouses with NO pockets on the chest. I’d buy a bunch if i knew where to get them. I can remove them, but i’d rather not have them in the first place

[Here’s](http://www.vermontcountrystore.com/browse/Home/Apparel/Womens-Sleepwear/Batiste-Nightgowns/D/30103/P/1:100:1010:10240/I/f01887) a nightgown…their batiste is 100% cotton…at least it’s listed that way on other items on the site.

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2008, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fashions-you-never-got/461378/169 "2008-09-08T15:09:01Z")

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When y’all are talking about “padded bras”, do you mean the kind with the little oval of padding in the bottom of the cup designed to make you look bigger than you are, or about molded cup bras? 'Cause I made the mistake for a long time of thinking that molded cup bras are “padded”, and who the hell wants padding in a 40G bra? I was set straight by a kindly Nordstrom’s employee, and now I won’t wear anything else. Despite the 1/4" of apparent “padding”, they support better and therefore make me look SMALLER, perkier and less nippley than any other bra out there. They rock.

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2008, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fashions-you-never-got/461378/170 "2008-09-08T15:37:19Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> I’m so relieved that high_er_ waisted jeans are coming back. Not high like they were once upon a time, not even Mom jeans, but something that isn’t muffin top producing. What the hell was that about?

OMG, yes. I don’t care for really high-waisted jeans, but I am so thrilled to find normal-waisted jeans that come right up to my belly button. I was wearing a pair with a fitted polo shirt the other day, and my sister asked me if I’d lost weight. Uh, no…I just have a pair of jeans on that doesn’t squeeze my belly pooch out the top. Instant 10-pound trim! 🙂

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2008, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fashions-you-never-got/461378/171 "2008-09-08T15:42:07Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> No. Never. Not unless you’re actually attempting to look like that kid from junior high school with the “floods”.
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> Your hem should be about 1/2 inch from the ground, no matter how high your heels are.

That’s a new fad.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2008, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fashions-you-never-got/461378/172 "2008-09-08T15:44:01Z")

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> [@anya\_marie](#):
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> Two things i want to buy  
> Nightgowns! A long light COTTON gown without sleeves would be nice for several occasions ideally in solid colors; no polyester, and i have no clue where to get them.
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> Short sleeved silk blouses with NO pockets on the chest. I’d buy a bunch if i knew where to get them. I can remove them, but i’d rather not have them in the first place

1. Vermont something or other has a catalog of old-timey stuff not available otherwise.

2. Wintersilks.

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**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2008, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fashions-you-never-got/461378/173 "2008-09-08T15:51:13Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> 1. Vermont something or other has a catalog of old-timey stuff not available otherwise.
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> 2. Wintersilks.

Vermont Country Store. Nightgowns, typewriters, and Sen Sen. What a awesome catalog!

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**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2008, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fashions-you-never-got/461378/174 "2008-09-08T16:08:50Z")

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If you order from Wintersilks, just try to hold off until they offer free shipping. Wow.

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**Author:** ![shy\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@shy\_guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shy_guy)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2008, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fashions-you-never-got/461378/175 "2008-09-08T16:57:37Z")

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> [@Harriet\_the\_Spry](#):
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> I just remembered another one that I truly don’t get: ALL of the various incarnations of things that try to look like two shirts but are only one shirt. This is incapable of looking classy. Fake collars, fake roll-up sleeves, fake vests. +2 Tacky.

Oh god, those things drive me insane. I thought menswear was relatively safe from garbage like that, but lately I’ve seen a lot of otherwise nice-looking short-sleeved button-downs that have horrible faux-sleeves added under the real sleeves, and T-shirts with a sort of weird faux second collar. It just looks horrible.

In regard to the 5 o’clock shadow thing… I agree that it doesn’t look good on all guys. Really, it only looks good on slim-to-average guys with good bone structure. On any guy who’s even slightly overweight, it just looks sloppy.

But on the guys who can pull it off, it looks incredible.

Autumn cannot get here fast enough for me, if only so that guys will quit going ouside in freaking sandals and flip-flops.

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2008, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fashions-you-never-got/461378/176 "2008-09-08T17:06:45Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> That’s a new fad.

😕 I haven’t seen jeans or dress pants worn any shorter than 1/2 inch from the ground in probably a decade.

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2008, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fashions-you-never-got/461378/177 "2008-09-08T17:11:19Z")

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> [@Dung\_Beetle](#):
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> Oh, good one. I have enough of a complex about my tiny tits without having to hunt through all these bras so helpfully designed to disguise my freakish failings!

😕😕😕😕😕

Breast implants. Never understood the concept.

And speaking of big hair, back in the late 80s or early 90s there was a trend that I believe originated in Mehfuh, MA. Mehfuh has always been home to industrial sized hairspray cans. The hole in the ozone layer probably started in Mehfuh.

But during the period in question, there was a trend wherein women would have canopy banks. Seriously, they would jut out a good 3 inches from the forehead then curve downward. They were held in place by either a gallon of hairspray or, possibly, polyurathane. The only reasons I could guess for this trend are a) the wearers could clip documents to them so that they could type them up, or b) They planned on raking leaves with their faces.

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**Author:** ![kittenblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ba8739/32.png) [@kittenblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kittenblue)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2008, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fashions-you-never-got/461378/178 "2008-09-08T17:11:54Z")

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> [@anya\_marie](#):
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> Short sleeved silk blouses with NO pockets on the chest. I’d buy a bunch if i knew where to get them. I can remove them, but i’d rather not have them in the first place

And [right here](http://www.clothing4all.com/prod-RH20_Red_House_Ladies_100__Silk_Blouse-1767.aspx?zmam=8546951&zmas=1&zmac=4&zmap=1767) are some blouses that fit your requirements…maybe…if you like the colors and price…

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2008, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fashions-you-never-got/461378/179 "2008-09-08T17:14:01Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> 😕 I haven’t seen jeans or dress pants worn any shorter than 1/2 inch from the ground in probably a decade.

\*\*Half \*\*an inch? Are you going by Hairdresser Inches or Penis Inches here? I don’t know how I’d walk with an actual half inch (1.5 cm) clearance. 1.5-2 inches, sure. But even a floor length ballgown has more than half an inch.

Of course, we’re somewhat behind the fashion curve in the Midwest, but [even the very longest, trendiest Juniors styles have at least an inch.](http://shop.nordstrom.com/c/2379941/0~2376776~2374327~2376057~2379941?origin=wdlp)

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2008, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fashions-you-never-got/461378/180 "2008-09-08T18:17:11Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> Of course, we’re somewhat behind the fashion curve in the Midwest, but [even the very longest, trendiest Juniors styles have at least an inch.](http://shop.nordstrom.com/c/2379941/0~2376776~2374327~2376057~2379941?origin=wdlp)

Unless you’re one of “the little people” like me, and even buying “petite” means that they pool on the floor 😕

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