# Fat Bottomed Girls

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-bottomed-girls/506506>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [August 15, 2009, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-bottomed-girls/506506 "2009-08-15T09:45:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
**Page:** 3

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**Author:** ![Ronald\_C.Semone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cc9497/32.png) [@Ronald\_C.Semone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ronald_C.Semone)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-bottomed-girls/506506/41 "2009-08-21T14:11:22Z")

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> [@Zoe](#):
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> BTW, the “Hottentot” label is considered extremely offensive.

Educate me, please. I never knew the term “Hottentot” was considered offensive. I just did a quick search of Google and I couldn’t find any indication that it was offensive. What have I missed out on?

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-bottomed-girls/506506/42 "2009-08-21T14:43:46Z")

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> [@Ronald\_C.Semone](#):
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> Educate me, please. I never knew the term “Hottentot” was considered offensive. I just did a quick search of Google and I couldn’t find any indication that it was offensive. What have I missed out on?

[This](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=414278&highlight=Hottentot) is probably the key thread from a discussion that went across at least two forums and multiple threads. (Search on “Hotrtentot” for the details.)

Summary: “Hottentot” is an English variant on a Dutch/Afrikaans epithet for the Khoikhoin people that is regarded as a strong insult by them. **Nzinga Seated** , a hevyset African-American woman (her weight is significant to the discussion) had originally used **Venus Hottentot** as a mark of tribute and solidarity to the 19th century Khoikhoin sideshow performer (who maintained her dignity despite having her megalohymen and steatopygous buttocks exposed for the titillation of paying customers. **Mr Dibble** , who is of Cape Coloured descent (and hence roughly half Khoikhoin), objected strongly to the “Hottentot” bit. Penis-waving ensued.

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-bottomed-girls/506506/43 "2009-08-21T14:55:50Z")

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> [@Zoe](#):
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> **Polycarp** , There are _some_ men who have the fatty deposits in the thighs and buttocks also. I believe these earliest of South Africans are considered Negroid. And I have heard anthropologists speak of this characteristic being passed down to modern women in a less noticeable form. I am not an anthropologist and I don’t mind being corrected by someone well educated in that field. (Just don’t label me a bigot for what others have taught me.)
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> BTW, the “Hottentot” label is considered extremely offensive.

South African ethnic composition is an extremely complex minefield to negotiate. Suffice it to say that steatopygia in the strict seanse is a Khoisan ethnic identifier in the same way as epicanthic folds are an ethnic-Asian identifier. And the Khoisan are no more Negroid than you are Australoid (Australian aborigine) – they’re a relatively small primary racial stock with equal distinctness as Black, White, and Asian/Amerind, the three large primary ‘races’ insofar as modern ethnology accepts such things.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2009, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-bottomed-girls/506506/44 "2009-08-22T00:52:28Z")

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> [@Deflagration](#):
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> I’m fighting with a memory (perhaps imagined) that there is a word that expresses the title of this OP.
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> I’m thinking “bathyculpus” but google concludes that this is a delusion.
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> 1. What is the real word.
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> 2. What (if anything) does my word mean (perhaps Boobs?).
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> 3. Hi Opal.

So then, you’re saying Opal has a fat ass? 😕

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**Author:** ![btlfannz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/779978/32.png) [@btlfannz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/btlfannz)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-bottomed-girls/506506/45 "2009-08-23T08:45:34Z")

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As I recall the Playboy cartoonist that you may be recalling is “Sokol”

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-bottomed-girls/506506/46 "2009-08-23T15:45:25Z")

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> [@Polycarp](#):
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> Suffice it to say that steatopygia in the strict seanse is a Khoisan ethnic identifier in the same way as epicanthic folds are an ethnic-Asian identifier.

Not to muddle the broader point, which is right on, but it should be noted that epicanthic folds are a Khoisan ethnic identifier too.

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