# Fat patient in the blood lab center **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 8, 2009, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-patient-in-the-blood-lab-center/513059 "2009-10-08T15:58:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-patient-in-the-blood-lab-center/513059/81 "2009-10-08T20:23:00Z")
I find superficial assholes as revolting as you find fat people. Good thing for you our personal preferences remain unenforced. ---
**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-patient-in-the-blood-lab-center/513059/82 "2009-10-08T20:23:53Z")
> [@Michael\_Ellis](#): > > Correlation does not equal causation. Just because some people with a healthy weight can have difficult veins has no relation to the difficulty added by layers of fatty tissue. My post helps to refute that there’s any relationship between weight and being a “hard stick” other than chance correlation. Several other normal weight people have stated that they are hard sticks, and one overweight person has said he/she is an easy stick, and they’re probably not alone. The sample size is crap, but it does throw a wrench into the OP’s absolute assertion that “being fat has everything to do with being a bad stick.” ---
**Author:** ![bri1600bv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc29f/32.png) [@bri1600bv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bri1600bv)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-patient-in-the-blood-lab-center/513059/83 "2009-10-08T20:24:28Z")
What would gunnery sgt. Hartmann do with this thing? Private Pyle wasn’t anywhere near that fat. That’s what this country needs is more of a martial, martinet spirit. Where obesity and voluntary weakness is not tolerated. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Onimous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ea5d25/32.png) [@Ann\_Onimous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Onimous)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-patient-in-the-blood-lab-center/513059/84 "2009-10-08T20:25:42Z")
I am fat. I have lost 20 pounds, am still losing, and am improving my health. I also work a 40 hour week at a real job and pay for my healthcare. I’ll pray for you and your attitude. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-patient-in-the-blood-lab-center/513059/85 "2009-10-08T20:33:11Z")
> [@Juliana](#): > > I am fat. I have lost 20 pounds, am still losing, and am improving my health. I also work a 40 hour week at a real job and pay for my healthcare. > > I’ll pray for you and your attitude. Good for you. More people need to take better care of themselves _as a rule_. That’s is probably what irks me about the average 400 pounder. I just wonder how someone could do that to themselves. No doubt some of them are genetically predisposed to it, but I bet some of them just don’t give a shit, which is damn sad. ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-patient-in-the-blood-lab-center/513059/86 "2009-10-08T20:37:07Z")
> [@Gukumatz](#): > > **Mod’s Note** : I’m not stepping in on whether this thread is a troll or not, but cross-pollination of Pit threads and dragging in unrelated people in a negative sense isn’t really good form. Not that it merits a warning or anything remotely like that, especially when it’s as mild as this, but it certainly doesn’t belong here. Unless **Starving Artist** is well known to hate fat people with the fury of a thousand suns, of course. > > There isn’t a Rule on this, of course, and if you feel I’m singling you out unfairly, I’d be glad to talk the matter over with you in a PM. > > - Gukumatz I actually thought that this was pretty good moderating. It may not accord with every mod action ever taken, but from a “Don’t slag people who aren’t here to defend themselves” perspective, it seemed pretty sporting\*. - 'Course, now I get my own pit thread for sucking up to the mods\*\* **Or for always footnoting stuff** \* \*\*\* Just so this isn’t a hijack, would the ‘blimpo’\*\*\*\* have been okay with the OP if she had revealed herself to be a venture capitalist, and wearing tatty clothing as she was off to buy a mercedes and wanted to mislead the salesperson into thinking that she was not mega-rich? \*\*\*\* and, if we are going to come up with new fat insults for the OP, may I suggest Natty Blimpo? ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-patient-in-the-blood-lab-center/513059/87 "2009-10-08T20:40:20Z")
> [@](#): > > - 'Course, now I get my own pit thread for sucking up to the mods\*\* I’ve assembled a crack team of monkeys to immediately start composing your impending Pitting. ---
**Author:** ![MissIntent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/97f17d/32.png) [@MissIntent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissIntent)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-patient-in-the-blood-lab-center/513059/88 "2009-10-08T20:45:05Z")
> [@bri1600bv](#): > > What would gunnery sgt. Hartmann do with this thing? Private Pyle wasn’t anywhere near that fat. > > That’s what this country needs is more of a martial, martinet spirit. Where obesity and voluntary weakness is not tolerated. And where fat people pull guns on and kill those that harass them? I really didn’t see that opinion coming from you 😕 ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-patient-in-the-blood-lab-center/513059/89 "2009-10-08T20:47:13Z")
> [@bri1600bv](#): > > I would like to work at a fat farm though. I’d whip them into shape in no time. It’s interesting how excited you get thinking about fat people. ---
**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-patient-in-the-blood-lab-center/513059/90 "2009-10-08T20:47:37Z")
> [@bri1600bv](#): > > It’s doubtful you were as big as this blimp. Maybe you are. Maybe I’m wrong but they said they couldn’t find a vein on her. They didn’t offer it, I stated/questioned that it was her and they kind of shrugged and said “yeah, couldn’t find a vein”. I probably am as big as that blimp and bigger. And more to the point, you’re full of shit. Or your phlebotomist is a HIPAA violating idiot who needs to have her ass fired and licensing revoked. Either way, not having good veins for easy blood draws is about as related to weight as having good reception on your TV is related to the number of people you know named Al. > [@](#): > > But this hippo shouldn’t be getting free anything. She should be on a fat farm pulling a plow all day that would get her into shape. She has a disability you peabrain. You said yourself that she walks with a walker. Guess what that means? That means that she’s fucking broken. Not lazy. Get a fucking clue. ---
**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-patient-in-the-blood-lab-center/513059/91 "2009-10-08T20:51:40Z")
I just think it’s a shame that the OP’s disability isn’t as obvious to everyone who meets him. ---
**Author:** ![Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19adc/32.png) [@Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lady_of_the_Lake)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-patient-in-the-blood-lab-center/513059/92 "2009-10-08T20:52:06Z")
> [@Tamara+](#): > > If the Op is disgusted by fat people, theres no hope for him, thye are many and will take over soon, and then he’ll be stuck in some reeducation camp where they force feed him butter. > heh. …You know…there could be worse ways to be enslaved for all eternity. Butter has many uses. I think I could entertain myself quite easily in this horrific future! Besides, bucketybuck has the right of it. When the zombie apocolypse comes, I’d much rather be next to a slow moving fat person than someone like bri1600bv, who might leave me to die because I don’t have enough of a ‘martial, martinet spirit’ in his eyes. ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-patient-in-the-blood-lab-center/513059/93 "2009-10-08T20:52:49Z")
> [@faithfool](#): > > In my humble experience, the thing we ridicule is the thing we become. Beware OP, you’ll probably be disgusting more folks than just the ones on this message board. I hate those beautiful, rich douchebags! With their Bentleys and their satellite television and their trips to Greece! _Curse those handsome devils!_ Oh, and if you have a PS3, a nice big HDTV, a top of the line gaming rig, hundreds of millions in the bank, a beach house on the Mediterranean, a country house in Ireland, a pack of obedient servants to attend to your every whim, Alton Brown’s phone number, and/or a handsome, exotic lover from the South Seas, fuck you, you assfaced shit-eating imperialist gerbil-stuffing goon. While I wait: DNFTT. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-patient-in-the-blood-lab-center/513059/94 "2009-10-08T20:53:12Z")
> [@bri1600bv](#): > > As for her being on medicaid, she could barely walk and was dressed in rags with fat bulging out. How does a blimpo like that actually work a job? You know those 1-800-Call-A-Hot-Chick-For-Phone-Sex-Lines? You don’t _really_ think it’s a hot fox on the other end, do you? Seriously - phone sex, customer service, psychic hotlines… Just talk on the phone, and snack in between calls. Nothing to it. Don’t even have to be wearing clothes for the job. If her fingers are too fat to dial a phone she uses a pencil to push the buttons - of course, such a job would mostly be receiving calls, not dialing out. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-patient-in-the-blood-lab-center/513059/95 "2009-10-08T20:53:43Z")
> [@tumbleddown](#): > > She has a disability you peabrain. You said yourself that she walks with a walker. Guess what that means? That means that she’s fucking broken. Not lazy. Get a fucking clue. Obviously she has a disability, but did the massive weight gain result from the disability or is the other way around? Of course, we don’t know the actual answer, so we’re forced to make assumptions. I don’t necessarily think that assuming someone who’s 400+ pounds or so is that way because of their own decisions is necessarily a sign of an evil and vindictive personality. But that’s probably because I’ve seen plenty of obese people where I live and I doubt that anything like 100% of them have a genetic disposition to weight gain or a naturally stocky frame. ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-patient-in-the-blood-lab-center/513059/96 "2009-10-08T20:54:10Z")
> [@](#): > > When the zombie apocolypse comes, I’d much rather be next to a slow moving fat person than someone like bri1600bv A secondary reason: Zombies hunger for _brains_. ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-patient-in-the-blood-lab-center/513059/97 "2009-10-08T20:56:26Z")
> [@Covered\_In\_Bees](#): > > I’ve assembled a crack team of monkeys to immediately start composing your impending Pitting. I can see it now. You’d have to take them off their other duties, which might effect their performance > [@Binky the infinite monkey](#): > > **Attack from the 3rd dimension** thou art a flesh monger, a fool and a coward!\* Thou art a general offence and every man should beat thee. **You have some sick offense within your mind** \* They could call me"You villainous abominable misleader of youth!"\*\*\*\* except they’'re probably saving that for another pitting. \*Measure for measure \*\*Alls well that ends well. \*\*\*Julius Caesar \*\*\*Henry IV part 1 ---
**Author:** ![Sparky\_the\_Wonder\_Spirit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Sparky\_the\_Wonder\_Spirit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky_the_Wonder_Spirit)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-patient-in-the-blood-lab-center/513059/98 "2009-10-08T21:01:13Z")
> [@Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](#): > > When the zombie apocolypse comes, I’d much rather be next to a slow moving fat person … Rule #1: Cardio. ---
**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-patient-in-the-blood-lab-center/513059/99 "2009-10-08T21:15:36Z")
Every fat person is fat because they have a medical problem, genetic disposition, hormonal imbalance, or some other condition that causes obesity. I know this, because I have never ever met a fat person who said their obesity is because they eat too much and don’t exercise enough. There are also no scientifically documented medical problems caused by obesity related to poor dietary habits and lifestyle choices. Obviously, sir, you are nothing but an insensitive asshole. It’s like that one time when I had to wait in line at the grocery store because the woman in front of me had to discuss with the clerk if cigarettes were covered by her food stamps, which included a late evening call to the (closed) public aid office. I would never think of leaping to conclusions about her personal life, or anything like that, because that would be wrong, and this is not the place to make snap judgments about people and call them names because we disagree with their stated views. For shame, **Bri**. ---
**Author:** ![Vihaga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Vihaga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vihaga)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-patient-in-the-blood-lab-center/513059/100 "2009-10-08T21:16:49Z")
> [@bri1600bv](#): > > What would gunnery sgt. Hartmann do with this thing? Private Pyle wasn’t anywhere near that fat. > > That’s what this country needs is more of a martial, martinet spirit. Where obesity and voluntary weakness is not tolerated. I think you’re right. You should totally do this. The country needs action, not people sitting around bitching on the internet as they listen to themselves getting fatter. Start with the fat and mentally ill, and work from there, trying to figure out which groups in society are the least disciplined. (Hint: Beat up some pacifists in your first week to establish street cred.) I, for one, welcome our fit, disciplined overlords. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-patient-in-the-blood-lab-center/513059.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-patient-in-the-blood-lab-center/513059.md?page=6)