# 'Fat Princess' game offends women gamers

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-princess-game-offends-women-gamers/458082
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [July 29, 2008, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-princess-game-offends-women-gamers/458082 "2008-07-29T14:21:04Z")
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### Author: ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2008, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-princess-game-offends-women-gamers/458082/21 "2008-07-29T17:31:27Z")

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[QUOTE=CaerieD]  
I thought it was a **moo** point?  
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Come on, now you’re just milking it.

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### Author: ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2008, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-princess-game-offends-women-gamers/458082/22 "2008-07-29T17:35:05Z")

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Oh no! Who said my thread could descend into puns! Stop it y’all! 😛

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### Author: ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2008, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-princess-game-offends-women-gamers/458082/23 "2008-07-29T17:35:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Anaamika]  
Oh no! Who said my thread could descend into puns! Stop it y’all! 😛  
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What did you expect? I for one find it udderly amusing.

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### Author: ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2008, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-princess-game-offends-women-gamers/458082/24 "2008-07-29T17:39:25Z")

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Heh … I was wondering if Fat Princess would make it to the message boards.

I’m a senior game designer at Sony. Part of my job is to provide design support for games we’re publishing. Fat Princess is one of my titles. I’m not the lead designer … he works for the developer. But I have been collaborating with the team for the last year to shape the play experience.

It’s fun as hell to play, BTW.

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### Author: ![pbbth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f9ae1b/32.png) [@pbbth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pbbth)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2008, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-princess-game-offends-women-gamers/458082/25 "2008-07-29T17:44:18Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally Posted by **Antinor01**
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> What did you expect? I for one find it udderly **amoozing**.

I fixed your spelling for you. 😃

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### Author: ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2008, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-princess-game-offends-women-gamers/458082/26 "2008-07-29T17:45:09Z")

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[QUOTE=pbbth]  
I fixed your spelling for you. 😃  
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Like I was going to double pun in one sentence! Geesh!

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### Author: ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2008, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-princess-game-offends-women-gamers/458082/27 "2008-07-29T17:52:02Z")

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I like this quote:  
'Feminist Gamer’s “Mighty Ponygirl” rings in diplomatically, suggesting a new way to play the game altogether.

“Instead of running out into the forest to find cake to fatten up the princess with, why not go out and find gold (which is a lot heavier than cake) to stuff into a treasure chest. The more gold in the chest, the heavier it would be, and the harder it would be to carry,” she said, before adding, “Oh, but that’s not as “cute” as cake and fat chicks. Right.”’

Because apparently women don’t mind being golddiggers. They just mind being called fat.

> [@Pochacco](#):
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> Heh … I was wondering if Fat Princess would make it to the message boards.
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> I’m a senior game designer at Sony. Part of my job is to provide design support for games we’re publishing. Fat Princess is one of my titles. I’m not the lead designer … he works for the developer. But I have been collaborating with the team for the last year to shape the play experience.
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> It’s fun as hell to play, BTW.

Why do you hate fat chicks?

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### Author: ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2008, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-princess-game-offends-women-gamers/458082/28 "2008-07-29T17:54:32Z")

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[QUOTE=msmith537]  
I like this quote:  
'Feminist Gamer’s “Mighty Ponygirl” rings in diplomatically, suggesting a new way to play the game altogether.

“Instead of running out into the forest to find cake to fatten up the princess with, why not go out and find gold (which is a lot heavier than cake) to stuff into a treasure chest. The more gold in the chest, the heavier it would be, and the harder it would be to carry,” she said, before adding, “Oh, but that’s not as “cute” as cake and fat chicks. Right.”’

Because apparently women don’t mind being golddiggers. They just mind being called fat.

Why do you hate fat chicks?  
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She didn’t say give the gold to the princess, though.

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### Author: ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2008, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-princess-game-offends-women-gamers/458082/29 "2008-07-29T17:56:13Z")

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I don’t like the idea of anyone force feeding anyone, even in a game. It seems a strange aspect to the win strategy. I have more issue with the whole “rescue the princess” BS than I do about the girth of said, er, princess.

Then again, it’s a freaking video game. I let my feminist umbrage rest up for more serious shit.

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### Author: ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2008, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-princess-game-offends-women-gamers/458082/30 "2008-07-29T17:57:13Z")

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I still don’t get her point. Put the gold in the chest and then what…? make the Princess carry the chest of heavy gold around all the time? I mean, the whole point is not to get her kidnapped, right? So…?

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### Author: ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2008, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-princess-game-offends-women-gamers/458082/31 "2008-07-29T17:59:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Pochacco]  
Heh … I was wondering if Fat Princess would make it to the message boards.

I’m a senior game designer at Sony. Part of my job is to provide design support for games we’re publishing. Fat Princess is one of my titles. I’m not the lead designer … he works for the developer. But I have been collaborating with the team for the last year to shape the play experience.

It’s fun as hell to play, BTW.  
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Well of course you would say so. You probably also don’t think the game is offensive. But there’s no way we can tell.

However you can provide a cite by sending us all free copies of the game. And any others you may have hanging around too. Just to cover all the bases.

😉

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### Author: ![pbbth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f9ae1b/32.png) [@pbbth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pbbth)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2008, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-princess-game-offends-women-gamers/458082/32 "2008-07-29T18:00:47Z")

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Did these women freak out like this at the versions of Grand Theft Auto where you can fuck a hooker, kill her, and then dispose of her body as part of the game? Or are they just pissed at games that involve cake and fat chicks?

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### Author: ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2008, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-princess-game-offends-women-gamers/458082/33 "2008-07-29T18:01:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Pochacco]  
Heh … I was wondering if Fat Princess would make it to the message boards.

I’m a senior game designer at Sony. Part of my job is to provide design support for games we’re publishing. Fat Princess is one of my titles. I’m not the lead designer … he works for the developer. But I have been collaborating with the team for the last year to shape the play experience.

It’s fun as hell to play, BTW.  
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It’s so cool, that almost anything you post about around here, someone who is directly involved will show up.

Are you a girl or a boy, btw?

And do you mnd explaining more about the game?

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### Author: ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2008, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-princess-game-offends-women-gamers/458082/34 "2008-07-29T18:13:39Z")

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[QUOTE=Trion]  
However you can provide a cite by sending us all free copies of the game. And any others you may have hanging around too. Just to cover all the bases.  
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Sure. Got a PS3 dev kit to run it on? 😉

If we have a public beta before release I’ll let people know.

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### Author: ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2008, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-princess-game-offends-women-gamers/458082/35 "2008-07-29T18:19:32Z")

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[QUOTE=Anaamika]  
It’s so cool, that almost anything you post about around here, someone who is directly involved will show up.

Are you a girl or a boy, btw?  
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Boy.

> [@](#):
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> And do you mnd explaining more about the game?

With limitations. Some features have not been made public yet. I have to be careful not to trample on any publicity that our PR people may have planned.

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### Author: ![Viridiana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ebca7d/32.png) [@Viridiana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Viridiana)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2008, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-princess-game-offends-women-gamers/458082/36 "2008-07-29T18:19:58Z")

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It doesn’t actually seem to be making fun of fat women, really. She’s hard to carry, but both cute and desirable within the game schema, no? I think it’s quirky and fun looking, myself (although I find capture-the-flag games to be boring), and yes, indeed, more interesting/“cute” than a jive-ass treasure chest with gold in it. But I could certainly be missing something. Second on free advance copies of the game for armchair observation!

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### Author: ![Most\_Creative\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Most\_Creative\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Most_Creative_User_Name_Ever)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2008, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-princess-game-offends-women-gamers/458082/37 "2008-07-29T18:25:05Z")

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I don’t understand what the big deal is. I’m a chick and it kinda looks fun. What gaming platforms is it coming out on? Just the PS3?

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### Author: ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2008, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-princess-game-offends-women-gamers/458082/38 "2008-07-29T18:26:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Viridiana]  
It doesn’t actually seem to be making fun of fat women, really. She’s hard to carry, but both cute and desirable within the game schema, no?  
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Gah–now the feminist in me is cringing. So, she’s cute and desirable, eh? Does she have any other attributes in this game that might require the use of her brain? Does she have to be carried? Why can’t she walk? (this is not directed at you, **Viridiana** , just a comment). Why can’t she rescue herself?

[QUOTE=pbbth]  
Did these women freak out like this at the versions of Grand Theft Auto where you can fuck a hooker, kill her, and then dispose of her body as part of the game? Or are they just pissed at games that involve cake and fat chicks?  
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Well, now you have to know that those hookers work hard to keep their weight down. Those girls work it, babee! Besides, killing and dismembering women who play fast and loose with their virtue is tradition. If the fat chicks get in on the action, who knows where we’ll end up? \*

\*sarcasm, for those whose meters are impaired.

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### Author: ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2008, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-princess-game-offends-women-gamers/458082/39 "2008-07-29T18:26:29Z")

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[QUOTE=Viridiana]  
She’s hard to carry, but both cute and desirable within the game schema, no?  
[/QUOTE]  
Yes. Both sides love their princess, whether she’s fat or thin. That’s why they’re fighting so hard to rescue her.

It’s probably not clear from the screenshots because the little soldiers are so small but you can actually customize them to be either male or female. So you might have an all-girl army storming the castle to carry the princess to freedom.

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### Author: ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2008, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fat-princess-game-offends-women-gamers/458082/40 "2008-07-29T18:26:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Pochacco]  
Boy.

With limitations. Some features have not been made public yet. I have to be careful not to trample on any publicity that our PR people may have planned.  
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I am just looking for a very generalized summary of what the game is. So you have to feed your princess so people won’t steal her. Who is trying to steal her? Is it a multiplayer game? Do you try to steal other peoples’ princesses?

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