# Father, aged 16, killed in a vehicle hit and run **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 14, 2008, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-aged-16-killed-in-a-vehicle-hit-and-run/452901 "2008-06-14T08:39:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2008, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-aged-16-killed-in-a-vehicle-hit-and-run/452901/21 "2008-06-14T22:58:55Z")
> [@](#): > > He then laid down in the middle of three southbound lanes on the Hume Highway, the facts read. > > He got up to punch a car that had slowed past him, witnesses report. How exactly would the world benefit from this guy? Like **Magiver** said - Darwin award. Worthless piece of shit. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2008, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-aged-16-killed-in-a-vehicle-hit-and-run/452901/22 "2008-06-14T23:03:33Z")
[QUOTE=Shayna] Yeah, this thread is really disturbing. My oldest friend has a son who, when he was 6 years old, got mad about something and went storming out the front door, then laid down in the middle of the street, saying he wanted a car to drive over him. He was 6. I guess if he’d have been run over, he’d’ve been the scum of the earth deserving of scorn and ridicule, huh. Too bad for all you moral jurists that he wasn’t killed, but ultimately determined to have bipolar disorder, so you don’t have him to kick around in this thread. We don’t have _nearly_ enough information about this young man to make any kind of judgment about him, let alone cast dispersions. Really, what’s the matter with you people? [/QUOTE] There is a big difference between 6 and 16. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2008, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-aged-16-killed-in-a-vehicle-hit-and-run/452901/23 "2008-06-14T23:11:41Z")
[QUOTE=Argent Towers] How exactly would the world benefit from this guy? [/QUOTE] Oddly enough, I feel precisely the same way about sanctimonious pricks like you. ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2008, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-aged-16-killed-in-a-vehicle-hit-and-run/452901/24 "2008-06-14T23:15:35Z")
OK, well, I don’t give a fuck how you feel. Anyway, sometimes you have to call a spade a spade. No way am I going to join in any bleeding heart bellyaching over this pathetic piece of shit who got what he had coming to him. I know it’s very enlightened and progressive and everything, but you can count me out. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2008, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-aged-16-killed-in-a-vehicle-hit-and-run/452901/25 "2008-06-14T23:18:56Z")
[QUOTE=Argent Towers] How exactly would the world benefit from this guy? Like **Magiver** said - Darwin award. Worthless piece of shit. [/QUOTE] Will we get to call you a worthless piece of shit when you go off your meds and lose it? If ever Darwin comes knocking on your door, I hope I’m close to a computer so I can create a mean-spirited thread about it. The guy was obviously unstable, probably not that much different than a huge contingent on the Straight Dope. Why is what he did so hate-worthy, but not the guy who hit him and ran away? What, did he punch \*your/i] car? ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2008, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-aged-16-killed-in-a-vehicle-hit-and-run/452901/26 "2008-06-14T23:24:19Z")
It’s not going to happen, so no, you won’t be able to call me a worthless piece of shit under those circumstances. You can call me whatever you want to _now_ or at any other time, though - I don’t mind. Anyway, the guy was trash, I’m sticking to it, and I don’t care if I alienate a few people. Everyone has to draw a line somewhere, and mine is pretending that anyone who does anything as stupid as what that guy did doesn’t deserve it if he gets hit by a car. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2008, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-aged-16-killed-in-a-vehicle-hit-and-run/452901/27 "2008-06-14T23:25:29Z")
[QUOTE=Weirddave] There is a big difference between 6 and 16. [/QUOTE] Maybe this guy had bipolar disorder too, and wasn’t diagnosed? I have a friend who has (to the best of my recollection) bipolar disorder with schizophrenia-like effects during certain mood episodes; it surfaced in her 20s. She sincerely believed at one point that she was under surveillance by the government and they were - among other things - observing her through the fast food drive-thru’s speakers. If she had decided to end it all and tried to fight off would-be rescuers, would she be worthless as well? She’s on a good mix of meds these days and teaches special ed at a high school in a low income town. She works hard for her students, cares about them, and has gone out of her way to try to help them succeed. But hey, since her brain chemistry flipped out on her, I guess none of that matters. ---
**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2008, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-aged-16-killed-in-a-vehicle-hit-and-run/452901/28 "2008-06-14T23:29:08Z")
[QUOTE=Ferret Herder] I have a friend who has (to the best of my recollection) bipolar disorder with schizophrenia-like effects during certain mood episodes; [/QUOTE] [Schizoaffective disorder?](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoaffective) ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2008, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-aged-16-killed-in-a-vehicle-hit-and-run/452901/29 "2008-06-14T23:33:42Z")
[QUOTE=Argent Towers] It’s not going to happen, so no, you won’t be able to call me a worthless piece of shit under those circumstances. You can call me whatever you want to _now_ or at any other time, though - I don’t mind. Anyway, the guy was trash, I’m sticking to it, and I don’t care if I alienate a few people. Everyone has to draw a line somewhere, and mine is pretending that anyone who does anything as stupid as what that guy did doesn’t deserve it if he gets hit by a car. [/QUOTE] Does it make you feel better to refer to people as trash? It must because I can’t see any other reason why you would do this. ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2008, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-aged-16-killed-in-a-vehicle-hit-and-run/452901/30 "2008-06-14T23:38:57Z")
[QUOTE=Argent Towers] It’s not going to happen, so no, you won’t be able to call me a worthless piece of shit under those circumstances. You can call me whatever you want to _now_ or at any other time, though - I don’t mind. Anyway, the guy was trash, I’m sticking to it, and I don’t care if I alienate a few people. Everyone has to draw a line somewhere, and mine is pretending that anyone who does anything as stupid as what that guy did doesn’t deserve it if he gets hit by a car. [/QUOTE] Sadly, I wouldn’t be surprised if the person who hit him and kept on driving thinks the very same way you do. ---
**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2008, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-aged-16-killed-in-a-vehicle-hit-and-run/452901/31 "2008-06-14T23:56:24Z")
[QUOTE=Shayna] I guess if he’d have been run over, he’d’ve been the scum of the earth deserving of scorn and ridicule, huh. Too bad for all you moral jurists that he wasn’t killed, but ultimately determined to have bipolar disorder, so you don’t have him to kick around in this thread. [/QUOTE] Please. By the time you’re 16, unless you’re in the fucking Special Olympics, you don’t lay down in the highway and punch a passing car. Six-year-olds do lots of stupid shit because they’re learning not to do stupid shit. This is just one less piece of crap in the world. Joe ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2008, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-aged-16-killed-in-a-vehicle-hit-and-run/452901/32 "2008-06-15T00:06:32Z")
[QUOTE=wheresgeorge04] Six-year-olds do lots of stupid shit because they’re learning not to do stupid shit. [/QUOTE] So do sixteen-year-olds. ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2008, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-aged-16-killed-in-a-vehicle-hit-and-run/452901/33 "2008-06-15T00:07:57Z")
[QUOTE=wheresgeorge04] Please. By the time you’re 16, unless you’re in the fucking Special Olympics, you don’t lay down in the highway and punch a passing car. Six-year-olds do lots of stupid shit because they’re learning not to do stupid shit. This is just one less piece of crap in the world. [/QUOTE] Please. You have no fucking clue what the history of this young man is. IF he was suffering at all from any kind of mental imbalance, for all intents and purposes, he may as well have been 6, not 16. And that’s the point – you _don’t_ know. But without one shred of information other than the mere existence of the act itself, you feel it’s appropriate to make vile and disgusting allegations about him, his life and his girlfriend. Y’all are fucking creeps. ---
**Author:** ![FourPaws](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e0b2c6/32.png) [@FourPaws](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FourPaws)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2008, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-aged-16-killed-in-a-vehicle-hit-and-run/452901/34 "2008-06-15T00:30:37Z")
Maybe he wanted to lie down in the middle of the road and count mufflers. /just sayin’ //ticket, please ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2008, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-aged-16-killed-in-a-vehicle-hit-and-run/452901/35 "2008-06-15T00:34:47Z")
I think the most important thing here is that our life appraisal experts are safe to decide who gets to live and die tomorrow. Let us give thanks for their good fortune. Now let’s all get in line to get our lives appraised, shall we? No? Anyone? ---
**Author:** ![meenie7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7993a0/32.png) [@meenie7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/meenie7)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2008, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-aged-16-killed-in-a-vehicle-hit-and-run/452901/36 "2008-06-15T00:43:04Z")
Geez, what did this guy ever do to some of you people? 😕 He was a total idiot at the time of the accident, sure. But he seems to have been trying to do his best by his daughter, and now she’ll grow up without her dad, because he had one night of total idiocy. I know I did completely stupid things as a teenager, but I lived through it and it’s sad when someone doesn’t get the chance. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2008, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-aged-16-killed-in-a-vehicle-hit-and-run/452901/37 "2008-06-15T01:28:54Z")
I suppose the best that can be said is that at least he laid down himself, and didn’t put um, Breeze (I find it difficult to call anyone a meteorologic term) down on the highway with him… Maybe he was mentally ill. Maybe he was high as a kite. Maybe he was dumb as a box of hair. I find I don’t have much sympathy for him\*. I do pity his daughter. 15 year old girls do not good mothers make. Nor do 16 year old boys make good fathers. Actually, the girl was 14 when she had um, Breeze, if I’m counting on my fingers right. We’ll never know why he did what he did. IMO, the driver should be fined and perhaps his license suspended for a bit, but really, he was set up. (love the phrase, “driving furiously”, btw). \*which is not to say I think he’s scum. How was he trying the right by his daughter? I don’t get that from the story at all… ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2008, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-aged-16-killed-in-a-vehicle-hit-and-run/452901/38 "2008-06-15T01:40:18Z")
“It’s a pity Bilbo didn’t kill him when he had the chance.” say’s Frodo “Pity? It was pity that stayed Bilbo’s hand. Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment.” ---
**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2008, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-aged-16-killed-in-a-vehicle-hit-and-run/452901/39 "2008-06-15T01:49:32Z")
[QUOTE=eleanorigby] I suppose the best that can be said is that at least he laid down himself, and didn’t put um, Breeze (I find it difficult to call anyone a meteorologic term) down on the highway with him… [/QUOTE] Chardonae Breeze, actually. Now, he doesn’t deserve to _die_ for that, but… ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2008, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-aged-16-killed-in-a-vehicle-hit-and-run/452901/40 "2008-06-15T01:50:15Z")
[QUOTE=eleanorigby] How was he trying the right by his daughter? I don’t get that from the story at all… [/QUOTE] Read the link in post #7. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-aged-16-killed-in-a-vehicle-hit-and-run/452901.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-aged-16-killed-in-a-vehicle-hit-and-run/452901.md?page=3)