# Father kills infant daughter & baby's mother **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 2, 2010, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-kills-infant-daughter-babys-mother/559163 "2010-11-02T02:42:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-kills-infant-daughter-babys-mother/559163/1 "2010-11-02T02:42:51Z")
I kind of can’t come up with words right now. [ > [@](#): > > A young father deliberately slammed his pickup truck into the bedroom of his newborn daughter and her teen mother, killing both before witnesses rushed to free them from furniture and debris, police said Monday. ]([http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US\_TRUCK\_IN\_HOUSE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2010-11-01-21-38-24](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_TRUCK_IN_HOUSE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2010-11-01-21-38-24)) My gut reaction is I want this guy to die, either quickly or slowly, but soon. I just don’t think we need to waste the space, air, food or anything else on him. > [@](#): > > “He intentionally drove the vehicle into the house,” Deputy Chief Kirk Albanese said. :eek:😕:mad::mad::mad: ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-kills-infant-daughter-babys-mother/559163/2 "2010-11-02T03:04:19Z")
Your link didn’t work for me (I even tried taking out some of the crap after the question mark and it still didn’t work), here’s what I believe to be the same story from another source in case anyone else has the same issue: [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39953533/ns/us\_news-life/](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39953533/ns/us_news-life/) Tragic of course. Apparently they had argued about custody prior to the incident. Ironically, the father has proven now that he wouldn’t have been fit to parent in any way. I’m hoping that by landing in jail he won’t have the chance to make use of his reproductive ability until after his fertility is gone. (or preferably, never) ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-kills-infant-daughter-babys-mother/559163/3 "2010-11-02T05:59:28Z")
> [@rachelellogram](#): > > I’m hoping that by landing in jail he won’t have the chance to make use of his reproductive ability until after his fertility is gone. Um…what? Guys can father children their entire adult lives, even in their 90s. ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-kills-infant-daughter-babys-mother/559163/4 "2010-11-02T06:06:15Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > Um…what? Guys can father children their entire adult lives, even in their 90s. Yeah, but women can’t. No woman who is fertile is going to “do it” with a old man. He should have said “…until his opportunities to reproduce are gone.” ---
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-kills-infant-daughter-babys-mother/559163/5 "2010-11-02T11:39:51Z")
> [@Mince](#): > > Yeah, but women can’t. No woman who is fertile is going to “do it” with a old man. He should have said “…until his opportunities to reproduce are gone.” Tony Curtis would beg to differ with you, but, alas, he’s dead now, as is his reproductive ability. ---
**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-kills-infant-daughter-babys-mother/559163/6 "2010-11-02T12:24:43Z")
I’d just like to say that I’m _against_ the kind of behavior described in the OP. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-kills-infant-daughter-babys-mother/559163/7 "2010-11-02T12:47:57Z")
> [@Mince](#): > > Yeah, but women can’t. No woman who is fertile is going to “do it” with a old man. He should have said “…until his opportunities to reproduce are gone.” > [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](#): > > Tony Curtis would beg to differ with you, but, alas, he’s dead now, as is his reproductive ability. Or Tony Randall, whose 27 year old wife had their first child when he was 77 and their second child when she was 28 and he was 78. Or Charlie Chaplin, who fathered eight children with Oona O’Neil; the last when he was 73 and she was 37. Saul Bellow’s fourth child, with his fifth wife Janice Freedman, was born when Saul was 84. She was 40. ---
**Author:** ![rhubarbarin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eb9ed0/32.png) [@rhubarbarin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rhubarbarin)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-kills-infant-daughter-babys-mother/559163/8 "2010-11-02T12:58:28Z")
Plenty of men become infertile with age though. Or they can’t get it up. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-kills-infant-daughter-babys-mother/559163/9 "2010-11-02T13:40:46Z")
> [@rhubarbarin](#): > > Plenty of men become infertile with age though. Or they can’t get it up. Why can’t it be both? Like the late Earl Warren? ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-kills-infant-daughter-babys-mother/559163/10 "2010-11-02T14:14:29Z")
> [@Mince](#): > > Yeah, but women can’t. No woman who is fertile is going to “do it” with a old man. He should have said “…until his opportunities to reproduce are gone.” Yeah, you kinda lost my attention when you called sex “doing it.” Also, OP, something similar and just as horrible happened in my part of town recently. It’s in the penalty trial [phase](http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/110210dnmetdeathpenalty.2ae22f9.html)now. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-kills-infant-daughter-babys-mother/559163/11 "2010-11-02T14:41:57Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Or Tony Randall, whose 27 year old wife had their first child when he was 77 and their second child when she was 28 and he was 78. > > Or Charlie Chaplin, who fathered eight children with Oona O’Neil; the last when he was 73 and she was 37. > > Saul Bellow’s fourth child, with his fifth wife Janice Freedman, was born when Saul was 84. She was 40. Babies, all of them. [Doctor Iglesias Puga](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julio_Iglesias,_Sr.) had his third son at 89; the posthumous fourth child involved fertility treatments but son number three didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-kills-infant-daughter-babys-mother/559163/12 "2010-11-02T14:47:00Z")
I would just like to add that I myself hope to be impregnating hot 20 year olds when I’m 78 ::sigh:: ---
**Author:** ![wipetheclock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@wipetheclock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wipetheclock)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-kills-infant-daughter-babys-mother/559163/13 "2010-11-02T14:57:15Z")
> [@Baal\_Houtham](#): > > I’d just like to say that I’m _against_ the kind of behavior described in the OP. I respect the balls it takes for you to express this clearly unpopular opinion.🙂 But seriously, the senior citizens who impregnate young women are typically wealthy (fame helps too). What 25 year old woman is going to want to have sex with a penniless 70 year old who has spend the better part of his life in prison for murdering his infant and baby-mamma? ---
**Author:** ![palindromemordnilap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/db5fbb/32.png) [@palindromemordnilap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/palindromemordnilap)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-kills-infant-daughter-babys-mother/559163/14 "2010-11-02T15:15:20Z")
> [@Baal\_Houtham](#): > > I’d just like to say that I’m _against_ the kind of behavior described in the OP. I was hoping there would be a poll. ---
**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-kills-infant-daughter-babys-mother/559163/15 "2010-11-02T15:18:52Z")
> [@palindromemordnilap](#): > > I was hoping there would be a poll. Something like: I’m against men killing their children and wives/girlfriends. Do we really need another option? ---
**Author:** ![Sattua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sattua/32/11906_2.png) [@Sattua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sattua)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-kills-infant-daughter-babys-mother/559163/16 "2010-11-02T15:58:46Z")
I’ve always heard that murder is the #1 cause of death of pregnant women. I don’t imagine it changes a whole lot immediately post-partum. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-kills-infant-daughter-babys-mother/559163/17 "2010-11-02T16:04:26Z")
Well, that’s probably partly because pregnant women are likely to be young and healthy and not prone to dying from other reasons. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-kills-infant-daughter-babys-mother/559163/18 "2010-11-02T16:29:44Z")
> [@rachelellogram](#): > > Your link didn’t work for me (I even tried taking out some of the crap after the question mark and it still didn’t work), here’s what I believe to be the same story from another source in case anyone else has the same issue: > > [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39953533/ns/us\_news-life/](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39953533/ns/us_news-life/) Bit odd how they can reveal the name of the victim, the uncle who owns the house, and a couple of neighbors who showed up to help, but not the name of the guy driving the truck. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-kills-infant-daughter-babys-mother/559163/19 "2010-11-02T16:34:16Z")
> [@Giles](#): > > Something like: > I’m against men killing their children and wives/girlfriends. > Do we really need another option? At what age will most men have difficulty conceiving a child? Did you do a web search before answering this poll? Why is there so much grandma porn out there? ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/father-kills-infant-daughter-babys-mother/559163/20 "2010-11-02T18:11:52Z")
> [@Sattua](#): > > I’ve always heard that murder is the #1 cause of death of pregnant women. While I don’t want to diminish the problem in any way, that [doesn’t seem to be the case](http://www.google.ca/search?q=%231+cause+of+death+of+pregnant+women&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a).