# Faux News, come on down!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-come-on-down/500865>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 24, 2009, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-come-on-down/500865 "2009-06-24T19:37:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![yanceylebeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yanceylebeef/32/12290_2.png) [@yanceylebeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yanceylebeef)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-come-on-down/500865/1 "2009-06-24T19:37:42Z")

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Now you guys are just doing this on purpose.  
[Fox Chyron](http://mediamatters.org/blog/200906240026)

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-come-on-down/500865/2 "2009-06-24T19:44:43Z")

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I don’t know why you expect the technical staff to be more informed/intelligent than the hosts.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-come-on-down/500865/3 "2009-06-24T19:45:35Z")

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Is there any evidence that CNN or MSNBC also regularly fucks up party designations when Democrats do something naughty?

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-come-on-down/500865/4 "2009-06-24T19:48:44Z")

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> [@woodstockbirdybird](#):
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> I don’t know why you expect the technical staff to be more informed/intelligent than the hosts.

Interesting that it’s always R to D, when someone misbehaves. Never R to, say, T, or someone innocuous, like Arnie, or Governor Douglas of Vermont, or former Rep. Tom Davis of VA. I guess it’s just a stunning coincidence.

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-come-on-down/500865/5 "2009-06-24T19:55:13Z")

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> [@Richard\_Parker](#):
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> Is there any evidence that CNN or MSNBC also regularly fucks up party designations when Democrats do something naughty?

If there were, don’t you think Hannity, O’Reilly, & co. would’ve made a week-long special on it by now?

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**Author:** ![NinjaChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@NinjaChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinjaChick)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-come-on-down/500865/6 "2009-06-24T20:00:29Z")

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> [@Richard\_Parker](#):
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> Is there any evidence that CNN or MSNBC also regularly fucks up party designations when Democrats do something naughty?

All I’ve got is that, during the early 2008 campaign, when Bill Richardson was still in the running, C-SPAN (of all networks!) identified him as the Democratic (correct) governor of Mexico (er, not so correct).

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-come-on-down/500865/7 "2009-06-24T20:07:05Z")

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The “D” stands for “dumb-ass”.

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-come-on-down/500865/8 "2009-06-24T20:09:07Z")

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> [@Captain\_Carrot](#):
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> Interesting that it’s always R to D, when someone misbehaves. Never R to, say, T, or someone innocuous, like Arnie, or Governor Douglas of Vermont, or former Rep. Tom Davis of VA. I guess it’s just a stunning coincidence.

Oh, I know. I was joking. This shit’s obviously done on purpose. Although maybe they have some kind of program that automatically includes a “(D)” after a name when it’s a scandalous story.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-come-on-down/500865/9 "2009-06-24T20:10:26Z")

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> [@ArchiveGuy](#):
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> If there were, don’t you think Hannity, O’Reilly, & co. would’ve made a week-long special on it by now?

For all I know, they have. Not that this would prove the event actually happened.

I ask only because this is just so silly, if intentional. Even granting the premise that Fox News sits around plotting how to actively paint Democrats as evil–not that far-fetched, I recognize–it is hard to envision some intern sitting in the meeting room and saying, “I know! Whenever a politician commits adultery, we’ll say he’s a Democrat on the chyron!” And the rest of the execs were like, “Brilliant! This tactic is sure to work! Promote that intern!”

Is the idea that they do it because it is insignificant and they won’t catch much heat for it? Or is the idea that whoever types the chyron is just super-biased and assumes any misbehaving politician is a Democrat? I just don’t get it.

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**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-come-on-down/500865/10 "2009-06-24T20:10:59Z")

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Natural mistake. They assumed that since he had an afair with a woman that he was a democrat. 😛

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-come-on-down/500865/11 "2009-06-24T20:13:19Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> The “D” stands for “dumb-ass”.

Nice going. Any minute now, we’re going to see one of the Usual Suspects\* come in with 😃 😃 's and “welcoming you to the fold” and high-fiving each other and making plans for what they’re going to heat up in their toaster ovens.

\*the Bad Guy Usual Suspects, not the liberals; I just don’t like typing their names in, just in case they make vanity searches

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-come-on-down/500865/12 "2009-06-24T20:25:09Z")

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What I’d love to know is if this was the decision of one person or if it came down the chain of command. I’d love to see the paper trail for this.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-come-on-down/500865/13 "2009-06-24T20:29:21Z")

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> [@Richard\_Parker](#):
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> Is the idea that they do it because it is insignificant and they won’t catch much heat for it? Or is the idea that whoever types the chyron is just super-biased and assumes any misbehaving politician is a Democrat? I just don’t get it.

It’s programming for their target audience - people who already believe that any sleazy operator must naturally be a Librul Demoncrat. All this does is reinforce it.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-come-on-down/500865/14 "2009-06-24T20:36:26Z")

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I’m really torn on this one. On the one hand, it screams “dumb mistake”, because it would only work on somebody so ignorant, they don’t know the difference, so what’s the point? On the other hand, it has happened too often for coincidence to be convincing. I mean, you think to yourself they can’t a) be that stupid or b) think their audience is.

Then I watch five minutes of Glenn Beck and think they’re all a bunch of baboons who’s brains are fried on meth.

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**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-come-on-down/500865/15 "2009-06-24T20:36:40Z")

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A huge number of people that I know in S.C. get their news from Fox, and only Fox,and believe it without reservation. I want to know if they all now believe that their own governor suddenly switched parties within the past four days.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-come-on-down/500865/16 "2009-06-24T20:39:49Z")

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Of course! Lured to Argentina by a neo-Nazi slut (“You want to see Hitler’s brain, Mark?”…), subjected to evil lesbian stewardesses dressed as candy-stripers who…

I think I need to take a break here. I’ll be in my bunker…

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-come-on-down/500865/17 "2009-06-24T20:45:37Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Of course! Lured to Argentina by a neo-Nazi slut (“You want to see Hitler’s brain, Mark?”…), subjected to evil lesbian stewardesses dressed as candy-stripers who…
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> I think I need to take a break here. I’ll be in my bunker…

ummm, purely for “research” (yes, thats the ticket) research purposes, where in Argentina are these evil lesbian, etc that you speak of?

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-come-on-down/500865/18 "2009-06-24T20:56:52Z")

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Since the story identifies “other media outlets” including the AP and noted right-wing apologists CNN as making the same sort of misidentification of Republican sleazes as Democrats, this is obviously a wide-ranging conspiracy by the Corporate Media.

Flee, flee to Canada while there is yet time!!!

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-come-on-down/500865/19 "2009-06-24T21:18:24Z")

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Like South Carolina would elect a Democrat.

Maybe it’s because he had an Argentinian woman as a friend instead of a servant.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-come-on-down/500865/20 "2009-06-24T21:22:14Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Since the story identifies “other media outlets” including the AP and noted right-wing apologists CNN as making the same sort of misidentification of Republican sleazes as Democrats,

I must have missed that. Cite/quote?

> [@bup](#):
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> Like South Carolina would elect a Democrat.

> **[Fritz Hollings](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Hollings)**
>
> Ernest Frederick "Fritz" Hollings (January 1, 1922 – April 6, 2019) was an American politician from the U.S. state of South Carolina. A member of the Democratic Party, he served as a member of the South Carolina House of Representatives representing Charleston County, South Carolina from 1949 to 1954, the 77th lieutenant governor of South Carolina from 1955 to 1959, the 106th governor of South Carolina from 1959 to 1963, and a member of the United States Senate from 1966 to 2005. He served alon...

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