# Faux news is coming around too! Let's here it for Fox! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 25, 2005, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-is-coming-around-too-lets-here-it-for-fox/309765 "2005-06-25T02:41:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2005, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-is-coming-around-too-lets-here-it-for-fox/309765/21 "2005-06-25T16:30:12Z")
In related news [Massive Crack Opens In Earth In Texas](http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/usworld/news-article.aspx?storyid=39373) It’s the End Times folks. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2005, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-is-coming-around-too-lets-here-it-for-fox/309765/22 "2005-06-25T16:53:52Z")
> [@Tapioca Dextrin](#): > > In related news [Massive Crack Opens In Earth In Texas](http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/usworld/news-article.aspx?storyid=39373) > > It’s the End Times folks. Nah. It’s just Rove’s daddy coming up to take him home… ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2005, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-is-coming-around-too-lets-here-it-for-fox/309765/23 "2005-06-25T19:57:29Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > I’m guessing Moto thinks Fox has no editorial board. Sure they do. Just as the liberal editorial page of the Washington Post prints George Will, and just as the liberal editorial page of the New York Times prints David Brooks, William Safire and now Gregory Kane, so too the Fox News website will feature liberal opinion from time to time on the part of its site devoted to opinion. I would be shocked, too, if this were a one time thing, but as Mr. Frost is a regular contributor to both the website and the broadcast, I’m really not sure that this can be seen as any sign of a shift in the tone of the network, any more than an opinion in a George Will column can be seen as editorial endorsement by the Washington Post editors. The following should be proof enough of an ongoing relationship between Fox and Mr. Frost. Keep in mind that Martin Frost served in the Congress until the beginning of this year, so you’d not see paid articles prior to that date. [http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,157095,00.html](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,157095,00.html) [http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,158342,00.html](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,158342,00.html) [http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159459,00.html](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159459,00.html) Shocking. It looks all above board to me. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2005, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-is-coming-around-too-lets-here-it-for-fox/309765/24 "2005-06-25T20:12:18Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > What is going on is the fact that as a business, it is becoming impossible not to talk bout the truth. And if the eyeballs are in the possession of people that no longer believe the administration, news will appear to appeal that growing demographic. > > Of course, overall, Fox still continues carring water for the administration Meh. The “Roundtable” on Hume’s show is COMMENTARY. Do you know the difference? It’s like the Editorial Page of the Newspaper. Hume is a conservative, and generally takes the side of the Republicans. There is always someone else, like Mara Liasson, to represent the other side. In fact she was on that show and vociferously pointed out that Rove wanted people to hear “Democrats” when he said “Liberals”, purposely conflating the two terms. If you want to prove that FOX is biased, you have to come up with something better than that. It’s like claiming PBS is biased to the right because the moderator of the McLaughlin Group is a conservative. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2005, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-is-coming-around-too-lets-here-it-for-fox/309765/25 "2005-06-25T21:03:37Z")
The facts are biased against GeeDubya. You report the facts, like PBS does, then you got a liberal bias. 'Course, they’re working on fixing that, I hear. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2005, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-is-coming-around-too-lets-here-it-for-fox/309765/26 "2005-06-25T21:03:24Z")
The facts are biased against GeeDubya. You report the facts, like PBS does, then you got a liberal bias. 'Course, they’re working on fixing that, I hear. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2005, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-is-coming-around-too-lets-here-it-for-fox/309765/27 "2005-06-25T21:09:57Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > 'Course, they’re working on fixing that, I hear. Kinda like the way you “fix” an ornery dog… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2005, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-is-coming-around-too-lets-here-it-for-fox/309765/28 "2005-06-26T00:48:13Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > Kinda like the way you “fix” an ornery dog… 😃 Great, more news sources without balls. Just what we need. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2005, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-is-coming-around-too-lets-here-it-for-fox/309765/29 "2005-06-26T01:16:15Z")
Are you suggesting, in this Time of Terrorism[sup]tm[/sup], that our own news services should report on things which cast the glorious leader in a negative light? Are you a communist or a terrorist? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2005, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-is-coming-around-too-lets-here-it-for-fox/309765/30 "2005-06-26T01:43:10Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Are you a communist or a terrorist? A commie terrorist! In fact, a commie gay atheist liberal terrorist! And a vegetarian! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2005, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-is-coming-around-too-lets-here-it-for-fox/309765/31 "2005-06-26T01:50:47Z")
Aw, c’mon! I’m not even British! ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2005, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-is-coming-around-too-lets-here-it-for-fox/309765/32 "2005-06-26T01:55:31Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > Meh. The “Roundtable” on Hume’s show is COMMENTARY. Do you know the difference? It’s like the Editorial Page of the Newspaper. Hume is a conservative, and generally takes the side of the Republicans. There is always someone else, like Mara Liasson, to represent the other side. In fact she was on that show and vociferously pointed out that Rove wanted people to hear “Democrats” when he said “Liberals”, purposely conflating the two terms. I would accept that, but unfortunately Fox news does count his show as par of it. > [@](#): > > If you want to prove that FOX is biased, you have to come up with something better than that. It’s like claiming PBS is biased to the right because the moderator of the McLaughlin Group is a conservative. All the pseudo news shows in Fox are not enough? Incidentally the constant “up to the minute” reports on found WMD that later were found to be not so, with the rebuttals almost non-existent, was enough for me to see their bias then. And I would consider fair to see more conservative voices in PBS. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-is-coming-around-too-lets-here-it-for-fox/309765/33 "2005-06-27T01:47:39Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > They’re a business above all else. They cater to a demographic, and recently [their ratings have been tanking](http://www.newshounds.us/2005/05/18/fox_news_in_ratings_free_fall.php). Uh… Weren’t there elections in November? Didn’t people care more about the news (rightfully so) at that time? If only Fox has dropped, then hooray, but I’m betting that this is a media-wide thing. If Fox has dropped substantially more than the other outlets, think about Fox’s average viewer. Is he more likely to watch the news when there isn’t an election on? Just some thoughts. ---
**Author:** ![Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sophistry_and_Illusion)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-is-coming-around-too-lets-here-it-for-fox/309765/34 "2005-06-27T07:05:20Z")
> [@Wolfian](#): > > Uh… Weren’t there elections in November? Didn’t people care more about the news (rightfully so) at that time? > > If only Fox has dropped, then hooray, but I’m betting that this is a media-wide thing. If Fox has dropped substantially more than the other outlets, think about Fox’s average viewer. Is he more likely to watch the news when there isn’t an election on? > > Just some thoughts. From the same article: > [@](#): > > Other cable stations’ ratings were also down since the election, but CNN’s, for example, appeared to have stabilized last month while Fox’s continued to drop. ---
**Author:** ![Muad\_Dib](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/35a633/32.png) [@Muad\_Dib](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muad_Dib)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-is-coming-around-too-lets-here-it-for-fox/309765/35 "2005-06-27T07:07:27Z")
You messed up with your title and spelled it “Fox” at the end. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faux-news-is-coming-around-too-lets-here-it-for-fox/309765.md?page=1)