# fauxpas, I'm trying to help.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 28, 2002, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345 "2002-12-28T11:04:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jester/32/8223_2.png) [@Jester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jester)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2002, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/41 "2002-12-29T02:05:00Z")

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Alright, it may look kind of self-serving of me to post to my own old [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=78644&highlight=Welcome+New+Teenaged+Dopers) but it really seems like **fauxpas** could benefitfrom it.

**fauxpas** , you may not care that you are badly representing teens here, but guess what: we other teens do. It’s not every day that a teenager can actually be treated like an intellectual equal in a debate. The SDMB offers us that opportunity, since we just have to present ourselves well and we’ll be taken seriously. I strongly suggest that you do the same, since we’ve managed to make this place our home and really don’t want a bunch of arrogant little pissants on Winter Break to screw things up for the rest of us. Thank you.

-Jester, teenaged doper at large

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2002, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/42 "2002-12-29T02:07:24Z")

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> \*Originally posted by fauxpas \*  
> Yeah, I’m a pain, I’m a teen, im mean,

Not something to be proud of, except for the teen part–that is, if you can act your age; after all, there is a degree of maturity to be had in the teen years.

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> I’m not begging you guys to read everything I post,

Many of us don’t bother to click that “ignore” button because we don’t want to see only a part of thread which seems interesting.

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> no I’m not obsessed witht this site at all, in fact i read books when I’m not here, I only waste about one hour a day here,

If you think your time here’s wasted, take a hint from yourself and quit wasting your time…and others’.

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> and it’s not my fault I’m trying to help,

Point of fact: you’ve haven’t tried to help a bit since you’ve been here.

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> and leave Trader of Shots out of here, he didnt do anything,

Other than being almost as incoherent as you, yeah…he didn’t do anything.

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> so what if I represent other teens here badly! I’m not everyone, I’m myself, well yeah of course I know what Ethernet is, I am not stupid! If I was I would answer this thread with an aroogant sly smile and not make sense at all and use some fould langugae, and yes I’ll still be here after Christmas Vacation and most likely will post even more, but my answers are not made up, but you guys are either jealous(most likely not) or you’re just crude and non-existant towards me! With that said, I have nothing against Trader of shots, if he does well I’m sorry man, im really mean somethimes (including now) geeze…who would of thought just by speaking correctly I would be judged worngly… and what I say you can either look it up or just believe me…in most cases I’m not lying, why would I. But you guys dont care jack, probably of what I say.

a) If you realize that your actions are a bad representation on you, why do you continue with those actions? A mature person learns from such a realization.

b) Your rambling, ill-written, badly misspelled, logicless posts have yet to approach “speaking correctly.”

c) Accusing the vast majority of the posters on this board (who, btw, are able to construct a post that does not ramble, is well-written, is not badly misspelled, and contains logic) of being jealous of you is quite the funny joke. Oh…you were serious?

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**Author:** ![censored](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/35a633/32.png) [@censored](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/censored)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2002, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/43 "2002-12-29T02:32:44Z")

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I’m a teen, and have been lurking here for years. I don’t post much, but when I do, I try to make sure that I know what I’m talking about; **fauxpas** dosen’t seem to realize the value of that.

**fauxpas** , you need a serious attitude adjustment - or maybe just a little growing up.

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**Author:** ![Epimetheus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c4cdca/32.png) [@Epimetheus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epimetheus)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2002, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/44 "2002-12-29T03:32:14Z")

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**fauxpas** says: I don’t make this stuff up, blah, blah, look it up.

No my little pubescent font of knowledge, you have to provide the argument, back it up with logic, and provide cites when asked for them. That is how questions are answered and debates are won. YOU provide the links to said evidence, especially when you start talking about eating causing fluctuations in the subconscience thus making you hungry when you wake up or whatever bullshit, far out and away psuedo-scientific garble you were uttering. EVIDENCE, not incoherent ramblings.

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**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2002, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/45 "2002-12-29T04:20:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ringo \*  
> **I believe Tripler is well past his teen years. Still a young pup, by my reckoning, but adult.**

Just to clear up _any_ confusion at all (which is a stretch in this thread), I’m 25, going on 26 this January. Feel free to join me for a few pitchers of beer on my birthday.

Tripler  
But I don’t feel a day over 16 1/2.

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**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2002, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/46 "2002-12-29T04:37:08Z")

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Oh, and just to add, thank you **d12**.

I try to be as coherent and logical as I can.

Tripler  
Smiting ignorance (along with Communists) is a lifelong tradition. 😃

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2002, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/47 "2002-12-29T04:40:32Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Epimetheus \*  
> […] you have to provide the argument, back it up with logic, and provide cites when asked for them. That is how questions are answered and debates are won.

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This is also how one avoids getting the dreaded F on essays in school. If you’ve learned nothing else from your time here, fauxpas (which really should be spelled _faux pas_, but I digress), this summation from Epimetheus will do you a world of good for your entire academic career.

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**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2002, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/48 "2002-12-29T04:45:27Z")

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> \*Originally posted by reprise \*  
> \*\*And I used to think **bj0rn** was incoherent… \*\*

Uh oh… I hear footsteps comiung from the North…

I totally agree with the OP, and would direct it to trader and Smiley as well. Just slow down a bit, think before you post, and take the time to make your post legible, that’s all anyone asks of anyone on this board when you get down to it.

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**Author:** ![SmileyDeath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@SmileyDeath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmileyDeath)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2002, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/49 "2002-12-29T05:04:34Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Wearia \*  
> \*\*Not just **fauxpas**. I’ve noticed the same coming from **SmileyDeath** and **trader\_of\_shots**.  
> Christ guys, I know schools out and your bored but don’t turn the SDMB into your little playground. I don’t think you guys are trolls but your just posting to get attention. Its really annoying to see. Plus your giving a bad name to the mild mannered teens on the board. Your feeding the stereotype of teens being self righteous disrespectful brats. Grow up a bit and then come on back, m’kay? \*\*

Maybe I was trying to grab attention before but not anymore. I’m in no way comparable to them.

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**Author:** ![UncleBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d26b3c/32.png) [@UncleBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBill)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2002, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/50 "2002-12-29T05:09:11Z")

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> \*Originally posted by fauxpas \*  
> …no I’m not obsessed witht this site at all, in fact i read books when I’m not here, I only waste about one hour a day here, …

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> Date Registered: 12-25-2002  
> Status: Member  
> Total Posts: 150 (47.87 posts per day)

50 posts an hour, huh, kid? Don’t make me search you posts and show the timestamps. Liar.

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**Author:** ![trader\_of\_shots](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aeb1de/32.png) [@trader\_of\_shots](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/trader_of_shots)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2002, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/51 "2002-12-29T05:14:31Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SmileyDeath \*  
> \*\*Maybe I was trying to grab attention before but not anymore. I’m in no way comparable to them. \*\*

Pfft you are a suck, fine if you don’t the attention may i have yours ?

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**Author:** ![techchick68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@techchick68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/techchick68)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2002, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/52 "2002-12-29T05:19:27Z")

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> \*Originally posted by d12 \*  
> 2. Tripler (at least I think he’s a teen)

Ummmm, **Tripler** is the cutest guy in the AIR FORCE of the U.S. that I have ever known and I live in a city where there are tons of AF men and of course women.

I am pretty sure he’s in his mid 20s.

Been wrong before though, but I am pretty sure he’s in his mid 20s.

:eek:

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2002, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/53 "2002-12-29T05:21:56Z")

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I get the feeling that if most established dopers had their way every doper would be exactly the same.

I haven’t seen most of fauxpas’s posts but I recognise this thread I am in right now as the usual and quite tedius follow-this-rule follow-that-rule do-this-do-that step-in-line show-no-individuality don’t-annoy-the-mods self-righeous kind of thread.

I am starting to think that established dopers are bullies.

Before you jump on me - this was a first impression. I haven’t read all of the thread. I will do that now - I have a feeling though that none of it will surprise me.

If you guys really wanted someone to post in good english and follow the sdmb rules then you’d tell him/her nicely. Surely you know that talking down to them will be much less effective and often have the opposite effect.

(obviously that does not apply to anyone who may have been nice to fauxpas/rule breakers in general)

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**Author:** ![racinchikki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@racinchikki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racinchikki)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2002, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/54 "2002-12-29T05:24:47Z")

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Wanting people to follow the rules means wanting everyone to be the same? Great logic, pal.

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**Author:** ![trader\_of\_shots](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aeb1de/32.png) [@trader\_of\_shots](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/trader_of_shots)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2002, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/55 "2002-12-29T05:28:09Z")

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**racinchikki** - Why be an arse ? \*\* Lobsang \*\* i can dig it man. Although me associating myself with any right now will smear them. I have to say i agree.

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2002, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/56 "2002-12-29T05:28:40Z")

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It was a Rhetorical statement racinchikki. I didn’t mean it literally. It’s something people use in intelligent conversation often. It’s called style.  
If I said to people in life what ‘old’ dopers say to new dopers in SDMB I’d get my face re-arranged. Many many times.

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**Author:** ![SmileyDeath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@SmileyDeath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmileyDeath)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2002, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/57 "2002-12-29T05:28:40Z")

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I (usally) spell fine, use grammar and punctuation fine and am trying to shy away from attention grabbing behavoiurs. SO, then what am I doing wrong?

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**Author:** ![techchick68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@techchick68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/techchick68)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2002, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/58 "2002-12-29T05:30:47Z")

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Thin your skin people, thin the skin!!!

\< giggling \>

Although I used to be one that felt I was “being attacked” when in reality I just needed to _listen_ a little more to what people had to say rather than look at every detail as an attack upon me.

I was a newbie once also.

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**Author:** ![techchick68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@techchick68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/techchick68)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2002, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/59 "2002-12-29T05:32:39Z")

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Oh and my “newbie” status on the SDMB was for at least two years.

\< snicker \>

And you think I am kidding.

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**Author:** ![Splanky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b2d939/32.png) [@Splanky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Splanky)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2002, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/60 "2002-12-29T05:33:48Z")

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**techchick68** , look six posts up. He’s 25 🙂

I think I have a solution to the fauxpas issue. Whenever he posts an incoherent question or response, reply in an appropriate fashion.

Example:

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> lol…somewhat disturbing bred with your opiate with positions of masses!

Can be replied with:

“Well my puzzling carpentar of a moronic shoeboxes collectour…HAHAH.”

Wouldn’t that work? This would force him to learn to make sense, or to stop bothering everyone. Appropriate (read: false) replies may be made to his questions until he respects other’s questions by posting appropriate and logical answers, putting his threads in the correct forums, and by making descriptive questions and non-decieving subject lines.

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