# fauxpas, I'm trying to help.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 28, 2002, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345 "2002-12-28T11:04:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![reprise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@reprise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/reprise)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/141 "2002-12-30T08:14:10Z")

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As people **QtM** has already mentioned, you can email one of the admins asking them to suspend your posting privileges until further notice people do so far more frequently than you might imagine.

Remember that the net is the world’s biggest library. Taking a break from messageboards might be a good idea for a while, but there’s plenty of other brain food online. I’m amazed at how often I’ve typed something into Google and several hours later I’m still following links.

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**Author:** ![fauxpas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e480ec/32.png) [@fauxpas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fauxpas)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/142 "2002-12-30T08:53:54Z")

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Ok guys im back…and after much research…I’ve found out that FauxPass is either trying to make fun of me or we’re both quite alike.

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**Author:** ![ratty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ccd318/32.png) [@ratty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ratty)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/143 "2002-12-30T08:59:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Lobsang \*  
> \*\ ***ratty** Having read your whole post. I can honestly say I’ve never read a more [color=blue]disgustingly judgemental, wrong, arrogant, shitty, hurtful post.
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> The behaviour you claim I am exhibiting (if it were true) is IMO FAR FAR less horrible than your type of post.\*\*

Again with the excuses: “What you did was so much worse than what I did!!!” Let me see if I’m reading this right: if someone else does something you consider to be wrong, you’re perfectly justified in going and doing something else wrong, as long as what you do isn’t as wrong as what the other person did?

Where do you come from? Is this the way people think on your home planet? Or is that why they sent you here?

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> **I do not laugh at/encourage shitting all over the board (I simply say that a little incoherence can be funny to read.**

But consistently posting meaningless babble _is_ shitting all over the board. I can see how it might be funny if it happened every once in a while. When 9/10 of everything a poster writes is meaningless babble, it becomes the equivalent of taking a big steaming dump all over our nice clean board and inviting everybody to come watch you do it.

I am in no way suggesting this is what _you_ are doing. For the most part you’re a good poster. But when you start slinging insults at people like a chastised kindergartener, some of us start getting the wrong impression of you.

And seriously, you’re beginning to worry me. Take the advice others have given you and back away. Come back when you’re ready. Good luck.

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> **A lot of dopers would disagree with you saiying that I am immature incoherent and have nothing useful to say.**

Doubtless they would. I can speak only for myself.

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> \*\* How dare you!! If you were here with me in person I would have put you through the wall, I am shaking with rage just typing this. **You patronizing little worm!** \*\*

See, now, this is exactly the sort of thing I’m talking about. You need to calm down.

**SmileyDeath** , you need to take the advice **UncleBill** gave you. It’s excellent advice, and if followed thoroughly will serve you well. You can’t just say “I’ve changed” and expect people to believe you. You must show them. And that will take time- people here have a long memory. I’d advise doing just that- show people you can speak intelligently about an array of topics. You don’t have to know everything, or make yourself some kind of message board star. This is not a competition. No prizes will be awarded for greatest number of posts within a set time frame, nor will you be given any medals for your ability to trade lame jokes with other teenagers. Just try your best to behave like an intelligent, rational human being. It’s okay if you screw up once in a while- we all do it. But adding post after post of pointless drivel is not going to benefit anyone, you least of all.

**fauxpas** , the very same can be said of you. Instead of doing some victory dance over **trader\_of\_shots’** banning, try and learn from it. It’s a perfect example of how _not_ to go about things on the SDMB. And really, get yourself a good grammar text, or else slow down your typing. Nobody can be stunned by your amazing intellect when they can’t understand what the hell you’re trying to say.

And just to end with a nitpick, I’m female. Sorry to bug you about it, **Quadgop** , 'cause you know I love ya. 😃

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**Author:** ![fauxpas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e480ec/32.png) [@fauxpas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fauxpas)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/144 "2002-12-30T09:11:14Z")

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Ok, now I’m actually taking you advice, ratty. I am now typing slowly enough to not cause a din in my living room. lol. And I guess I’m now typing more understandable.

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**Author:** ![FauxPass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@FauxPass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FauxPass)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/145 "2002-12-30T09:26:08Z")

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> \*Originally posted by fauxpas \*  
> \*\*Ok guys im back…and after much research…I’ve found out that FauxPass is either trying to make fun of me or we’re both quite alike. \*\*

Nah. I ain’t making fun of ya’. And on a merely objective note, I’m fairly sure we aren’t anything alike, either.

Except for that whole name thing, that is. 😛

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/146 "2002-12-30T12:55:56Z")

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**Dateline: 12-29-2002**

8:28AM: **Dex** posts a stern but fair warning to **Smileydeath**. Among other things he’s warned about is not being a jerk and that the messageboard isn’t a chat-room.

8:30AM: **Smileydeath** quotes the _entire post_ to toss in a vapid one-line chat-room-esque response suggesting that he didn’t read, understand or care about **Dex’s** post ( **Smiley** sez that he’s complained about other posters too.)

8:31AM" **Smileydeath** adds ANOTHER vapid one-line, this time with a nyahh-nyahh post. (“I’m still happy that idiot is gone”). This despite **Dex’s** warning.

9:01AM, 9:16AM, 10:07AM, 10:10AM, 10:42AM, and 11:00AM,: Each one, a vapid one-line post from **Smileydeath**. Average post length? 7 words. Actual content? 0.\*

**Dec 30**  
5:46AM, **Fenris** hears the creaking of thin ice and eagerly awaits posting with joyful irony: “I’m still happy that idiot is gone” after Smiley’s inevitable fate.

Fenris

\*One theory is that **Smiley** ’s are generated by a chimp pushing buttons which post phrases like: “I know you are, but what am I?”, “lol”, “huh?”, “Oh yeah?”, “Yup” and so forth (though a chimp would presumably have a better grasp of content).

An alternative theory holds that Smiley is just an AI. However ELIZA was a better AI than him. (“How do you feel about ELIZA was a better AI than him?”)

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**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/147 "2002-12-30T14:14:44Z")

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Lobsang, honey, take a deep breath and back away from the keyboard for a minute. Look, nobody here hates your guts, okay? When Dopers really hate your guts, trust me, you’ll know it. You’re internalizing people’s comments in this thread too much–what’s going on here is just the normal sort of Pit chit-chat, back-and-forth, that’s the way it goes in a Pit thread.

FWIW, I don’t think you’re a condescending asshole or anything like that. You come across in your posts as a perfectly normal human being, subject to the occasional crotchety fit, just like the rest of us. 😃

Don’t hate this place. There’s nothing quite like it on the face of the planet, and I for one consider myself incredibly fortunate to have stumbled into it, hopeless addiction and all.

For better or worse, it’s a part of you now, and the only way you’ll ever get it out of your system is for you to be physically removed from the same premises as your computer. Take it from someone who’s “been there”, this is your life now. Seriously. Get used to it. 😃

As consolation I offer to you a poem by Edna St. Vincent Millay, which is an incredibly depressing poem, but which for some reason has always been one of my favorites. Anyway, there are some lines that are appropriate, I think.

[http://www.everypoet.com/archive/poetry/Edna\_St\_Vincent\_Millay/edna\_st\_vincent\_millay\_second\_april\_memorial\_to\_d\_c.htm](http://www.everypoet.com/archive/poetry/Edna_St_Vincent_Millay/edna_st_vincent_millay_second_april_memorial_to_d_c.htm)

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> Be to her, Persephone,  
> All the things I might not be;  
> Take her head upon your knee.  
> She that was so proud and wild,  
> Flippant, arrogant and free,  
> She that had no need of me,  
> Is a little lonely child  
> Lost in Hell,–Persephone,  
> Take her head upon your knee;  
> Say to her, “My dear, my dear,  
> It is not so dreadful here.”

😃

And thanks to Disney, I now have the image of Persephone’s abductor with blue flaming hair etched into my mind forever. Read the poem again while looking at the picture.

[http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/9706/19/hercules.review/hades.jpg](http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/9706/19/hercules.review/hades.jpg)

So this is where you are, Lobsang. In Hell, with blue hair. Enjoy your stay. 😃

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**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/148 "2002-12-30T14:16:52Z")

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Bah. “In Hell, with Blue Hair.”

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**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/149 "2002-12-30T16:49:43Z")

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I personally think that Smiley Death, Trader of Shots, and Fauxpass are a re-incarnation of Talk About Islam. Remember our beloved friend? When he was banned he turned into three more. If these guys are banned we will end up with nine more.

Maybe we should be careful here.

I miss TAI. With his nonsense and gaudy sig, and his high post count and all. But he was only one.

:wally `s

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**Author:** ![fauxpas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e480ec/32.png) [@fauxpas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fauxpas)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/150 "2002-12-30T17:07:20Z")

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hmm…uhhh…never heard of TAI…

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**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/151 "2002-12-30T17:19:55Z")

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You wouldn`t have if you are his reincarnate.

Do a search for (TalkAboutIslam) starting 3 months ago and you will see an example of what not to do.

You`ll get the hang of this sooner or later. Just lay low and stick with it FP.

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**Author:** ![fauxpas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e480ec/32.png) [@fauxpas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fauxpas)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/152 "2002-12-30T17:26:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by whuckfistle \*  
> \*\*You wouldn`t have if you are his reincarnate.
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> Do a search for (TalkAboutIslam) starting 3 months ago and you will see an example of what not to do.
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> You`ll get the hang of this sooner or later. Just lay low and stick with it FP. \*\*

Cool. I won’t do \*\*ANYTHING[B/[ he did…and Ill follow your advice.🙂

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**Author:** ![bizzwire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/958977/32.png) [@bizzwire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bizzwire)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/153 "2002-12-30T20:09:33Z")

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Long-time lurker here.

I love this place. Many times, I have opened up a thread with one set of convictions, only to close it with a whole different attitude. I feel very protective of it and am, like others, alarmed at the recent rash of posters who seem to think this is some sort of AOL rumpus-room. I won’t name names. To these new members, I say welcome. You are aware, I hope, of the “don’t be a jerk” rule. There is a corrolary to this rule which is not often mentioned because, to most people it is lead-pipe obvious:

“If you are going to post, please, please, **PLEASE** _Have something to say!!!_”

For those who cannot quite fathom these fairly simple codes of behaviour, I would propose that a new Forum be created. We could call it “The Romper Room.” It would be a kind of Doper Limbo for those poor souls who hover somewhere between banishment and rational thought. A thread or poster could be relegated to languish here at the discretion of the moderator, saving other posters the agravation and at the same time sending the message to the offending parties that they need to shape up. Kind of like virtual Juvenile detention.

I know who my first nominee would be…

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/154 "2002-12-30T21:05:20Z")

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Well I’m back, after some sleep and a bit of calming down. I was dreading a barrage of difficult posts after my loss of temper earlier. But it was not so bad.

I am on a pain in the arse laptop on pain in the arse windows xp, with no mouse, so I will leave a more extensive reply to individuals until i GET back onto my desktop pc.

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**Author:** ![FordPrefect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@FordPrefect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordPrefect)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/155 "2002-12-30T21:55:17Z")

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> \*Originally posted by samarm \*  
> \*\* But then again he also said he had written 5 games, and was then asking for advice on where to learn computer programming, in another thread. \*\*

Not to defend the “incoherant”, but there is software that is used to make PC video games. One example being Game Maker, (which my non-computer-programming-trained 12 year old son uses) which only needs the barest smattering of programming knowledge.

What I am trying to say is that there is not necessarily a paradox in quoted statement above.

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**Author:** ![Early\_Out](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Early\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Early_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/156 "2002-12-30T22:12:44Z")

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> \*Originally posted by whuckfistle \*  
> **I personally think that Smiley Death, Trader of Shots, and Fauxpass are a re-incarnation…**

One note of caution: **fauxpas** and **Fauxpass** are two rather different posters. I believe you’re referring to the former, rather than the latter.

Carry on.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/157 "2002-12-30T22:21:53Z")

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Well, he’s also saying that he’s going to graduate from high school in grade 10. Given that he’s barely literate, that seems a bit of a stretch.

He’s just a young kid with big plans, who thinks he knows a lot more than he does. I’m guessing that this describes about 90% of the population of the SDMB when they were the same age.

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**Author:** ![fauxpas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e480ec/32.png) [@fauxpas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fauxpas)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/158 "2002-12-30T22:34:58Z")

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WEll, I dont know more than I need to know but I know enough to know when to tell you that I’m not stupid or misunderstood. I’ll just ignore you and keep on with my life, because I have friends that are adults that I discuss frank discussions with. No I’m not a kid, I’m a teenager with small plans.

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**Author:** ![fauxpas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e480ec/32.png) [@fauxpas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fauxpas)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/159 "2002-12-30T22:36:53Z")

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I was thinking of at 10 but Digipen accepts people from High school with atleast a 3.0 amd have finished all of the grades. But when I said I’d graduate at the 10th grade, I mean I’d already know 11th’s grades work.

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**Author:** ![censored](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/35a633/32.png) [@censored](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/censored)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2002, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fauxpas-im-trying-to-help/145345/160 "2002-12-31T00:45:02Z")

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Your folly is precisely that you “ignore” everything. Listen to it all. Learn.

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