# Favorite Imperial characters from ORIGINAL Star Wars OTHER than Vader or Emperor **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 9, 2018, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-imperial-characters-from-original-star-wars-other-than-vader-or-emperor/808541 "2018-02-09T19:38:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-imperial-characters-from-original-star-wars-other-than-vader-or-emperor/808541/41 "2018-02-12T05:06:19Z")
> [@Jacquernagy](#): > > I re-watched the film recently, and my thought at that moment was, “this guy is like the senior NCO that’s not afraid to tell the big bad boss what to do.” This is a guy who knows when shit’s not his fault. I bet if Vader hadn’t started barking orders he’d have tried to subtly mention the interoffice memo he wrote, six months earlier, suggesting the installation of anti-fighter lasers around sensitive areas that general so-and-so officially dismissed. > [@Jacquernagy](#): > > Also, in [this scene](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnNSnJbjdws) from _A New Hope_, there is one officer who is wearing a _white_ uniform. As an aside, the Disney Star Wars movies really could have used a scene like this to give the First Order some substance and motivation beyond being evil. They feel like a pale imitation of the original empire now. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-imperial-characters-from-original-star-wars-other-than-vader-or-emperor/808541/42 "2018-02-12T06:06:02Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > Green? When in all of Star Wars has an Imperial worn a green uniform? Black, gray, the occasional white (like Grand Admiral Thrawn) but never green? Goes against the Empire’s entire clean, stark aesthetic. [These?](https://i.stack.imgur.com/19ACj.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-imperial-characters-from-original-star-wars-other-than-vader-or-emperor/808541/43 "2018-02-12T12:39:11Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > If I was either of the Imperial leaders, I’d blow it up, just to be sure, but they ignore it. You say that, but you’re not the one who has to fill out Form IN-532 (Discharge of Shipboard Weapon at Space Debris/Derelict in Non-Combat Situation). ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-imperial-characters-from-original-star-wars-other-than-vader-or-emperor/808541/44 "2018-02-12T12:47:20Z")
I feel like Tarkin needs more supporters. More pushing for the Cushing, as it were ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-imperial-characters-from-original-star-wars-other-than-vader-or-emperor/808541/45 "2018-02-12T12:54:52Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > And as Rogue One **later** shows, he’s more than willing to blow up cities and Imperial facilities in the off-chance that he’ll take out rebels along the way. Emphasis mine. _Earlier_. Rogue One shows that happening EARLIER. :mad::smack:😃 ---
**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-imperial-characters-from-original-star-wars-other-than-vader-or-emperor/808541/46 "2018-02-12T15:05:34Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > [These?](https://i.stack.imgur.com/19ACj.jpg) I think it depends on the lighting and monitor. The Imperial officer’s uniforms look like they’re grayish or brownish-gray in some pictures and scenes, and look more like a desaturated olive-drab green in others. I always took it as “green” but I can see the confusion. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-imperial-characters-from-original-star-wars-other-than-vader-or-emperor/808541/47 "2018-02-12T18:26:06Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Emphasis mine. _Earlier_. Rogue One shows that happening EARLIER. :mad::smack:😃 Later movie, earlier in the timeline. So yes, we’re both correct, more or less. _Damn you prequels!_😛 ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-imperial-characters-from-original-star-wars-other-than-vader-or-emperor/808541/48 "2018-02-12T20:32:32Z")
> [@mbh](#): > > My favorite is Captain/Admiral Piett. Piett for me too. Luckiest guy in the Empire…well…until… ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-imperial-characters-from-original-star-wars-other-than-vader-or-emperor/808541/49 "2018-02-13T03:03:35Z")
Piett and Needa were awesome. How about Commander Jerjerrod, who greeted Vader when he arrived on the Death Star in _Return of the Jedi_? “We shall double our efforts!” “I hope so, Commander, for your sake. The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am.” ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-imperial-characters-from-original-star-wars-other-than-vader-or-emperor/808541/50 "2018-02-13T09:49:19Z")
> [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > Piett for me too. Luckiest guy in the Empire…well…until… In some fan fiction he survives because he isn’t blown out into space. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-imperial-characters-from-original-star-wars-other-than-vader-or-emperor/808541/51 "2018-02-13T10:56:03Z")
What, no love for Vader’s anonymous wingman who, when fired upon by the Falcon, chooses not to throttle back or exit the trench or even a heroic sacrifice ; but rather break _straight into_ Vader’s ship ? YOU HAD **ONE** JOB ! ---
**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/staggerlee/32/3134_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Staggerlee)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-imperial-characters-from-original-star-wars-other-than-vader-or-emperor/808541/52 "2018-02-13T12:35:39Z")
I’d have to choose Ozzel, as the actor Michael Sheard also played the terrifying headmaster of ‘Grange Hill’ (popular UK children’s school drama series in the Eighties), Mr Bronson. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-imperial-characters-from-original-star-wars-other-than-vader-or-emperor/808541/53 "2018-02-13T15:11:11Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Later movie, earlier in the timeline. > > So yes, we’re both correct, more or less. IOW, you’re both correct, _from a certain point of view_. > [@Kobal2](#): > > What, no love for Vader’s anonymous wingman who, when fired upon by the Falcon, chooses not to throttle back or exit the trench or even a heroic sacrifice ; but rather break _straight into_ Vader’s ship ? YOU HAD **ONE** JOB ! I consider that Vader’s fault for grabbing the only two pilots they had sitting around while everyone else was out there. Did it ever occur to him they weren’t being scrambled for a reason? ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-imperial-characters-from-original-star-wars-other-than-vader-or-emperor/808541/54 "2018-02-13T16:09:23Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > What, no love for Vader’s anonymous wingman who, when fired upon by the Falcon, chooses not to throttle back or exit the trench or even a heroic sacrifice ; but rather break _straight into_ Vader’s ship ? YOU HAD **ONE** JOB ! Hey, he yelled “Look out!” ETA: And apparently he’s [not anonymous](http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mithel) either. ---
**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-imperial-characters-from-original-star-wars-other-than-vader-or-emperor/808541/55 "2018-02-13T16:29:49Z")
“Mauler had a son named Rejlii Mithel, who became a tractor beam operator on the Chimaera. He kept a holo of Rejlii on the control yoke of his TIE fighter.” This arrangement does not sound conducive to focused, distraction-free piloting. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-imperial-characters-from-original-star-wars-other-than-vader-or-emperor/808541/56 "2018-02-13T22:15:52Z")
Probably why he bumped into Darth Vader. ---
**Author:** ![TwoCarrotSnowman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/twocarrotsnowman/32/15879_2.png) [@TwoCarrotSnowman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwoCarrotSnowman)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-imperial-characters-from-original-star-wars-other-than-vader-or-emperor/808541/57 "2018-02-14T19:10:43Z")
> [@Staggerlee](#): > > I’d have to choose Ozzel, as the actor Michael Sheard also played the terrifying headmaster of ‘Grange Hill’ (popular UK children’s school drama series in the Eighties), Mr Bronson. I realise this is nerdy even by the standards of this thread, but Mrs McCluskey was the head of Grange Hill. Bronson was her deputy. Sort of like Tarkin and Vader, now I come to think of it. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-imperial-characters-from-original-star-wars-other-than-vader-or-emperor/808541/58 "2018-02-14T19:19:05Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > I feel like Tarkin needs more supporters. > > More pushing for the Cushing, as it were Tarkin was awesome. As has been pointed out, in “Star Wars,” Vader was just the muscle. Tarkin was the big bad guy, and he was scary. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-imperial-characters-from-original-star-wars-other-than-vader-or-emperor/808541.md?page=2)