# Favorite Trek Villian **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 25, 2001, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-trek-villian/89550 "2001-10-25T14:46:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-trek-villian/89550/1 "2001-10-25T14:46:22Z")
Who is your favorite bad guy from any incarnation of Star Trek? I like Ricardo Montalban’s Kahn from \* Space Seed \* and \* The Wrath Of Kahn \* ---
**Author:** ![lucie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ed8c4c/32.png) [@lucie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lucie)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-trek-villian/89550/2 "2001-10-25T14:49:48Z")
A big second for Kahn, with Christopher Lloyd’s Klingon captain from “The Search for Spock” close second. He’s the Klingon against whom I compare all the others (and they always fall short). ---
**Author:** ![poohpah\_chalupa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/91b2a8/32.png) [@poohpah\_chalupa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/poohpah_chalupa)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-trek-villian/89550/3 "2001-10-25T14:52:52Z")
**Trelaine**! The most quotable one-episode ST villain! ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-trek-villian/89550/4 "2001-10-25T14:58:08Z")
Q, hands down, the master! ---
**Author:** ![bafaa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e480ec/32.png) [@bafaa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bafaa)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-trek-villian/89550/5 "2001-10-25T15:10:47Z")
\*\*KAHN!!! ---
**Author:** ![Legomancer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/779978/32.png) [@Legomancer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Legomancer)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-trek-villian/89550/6 "2001-10-25T15:11:33Z")
The Doomsday Machine ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-trek-villian/89550/7 "2001-10-25T16:05:40Z")
From TOS, Khan, especially in the movie, wins hands down (although I have to admit I haven’t watched a lot of the episodes in a long time). The Next Generation: Q. I hear that Voyager kind of ripped him apart, but I didn’t really watch that show, so there. Oh, also, I’ve got to say I have always loved the Romulans. They always were formidable, being able to outgun federation ships, and posessing the cloaking device. I am kind of bitter about how the writers of ST have kind of ditched them for the Klingons. Mark Lenard was a great “first Romulan” of the ST universe. ---
**Author:** ![Kilt-wearin\_man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/82dd89/32.png) [@Kilt-wearin\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kilt-wearin_man)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-trek-villian/89550/8 "2001-10-25T16:26:08Z")
Gul Dukat had his moments, but when things got mystical in the last season he got annoying…and there’s no reason he should’ve survived killing Jadzia. Worf would’ve cut him into tiny pieces. The Borg are the best villains in my opinion - the whole concept is terrifying. Even if they did get declawed somewhat on Voyager. ---
**Author:** ![DPWhite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d26b3c/32.png) [@DPWhite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPWhite)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-trek-villian/89550/9 "2001-10-25T16:52:30Z")
Louise Fletcer as the high muckety muck. Nurse Rachet in space. ---
**Author:** ![slortar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@slortar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slortar)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-trek-villian/89550/10 "2001-10-25T17:04:42Z")
My favorite is the amorphous glowing cloud from the first series. You know, the one that kills that one guy in the red shirt? ---
**Author:** ![King\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7bcc69/32.png) [@King\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/King_Rat)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-trek-villian/89550/11 "2001-10-25T17:07:18Z")
It seems appropriate that Kahn, The Borg, and Q are already taken (love the Doomsday Machine response) \*M5 **thinks**! A _revolution_ in computer science. \*Harcourt Fenton Mudd \*The guy who stole Data as a collectible, like his Roger Maris Baseball card \*Alien played by Antoinette Bower \*The evil Capt. Kirk (The Enemy Within) \*That thing that thinks Kirk is its creator (The Changeling) \*Spock with a beard (Mirror, Mirror) \*Elaan of Troyius ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-trek-villian/89550/12 "2001-10-25T17:12:14Z")
**TOS** : Kang from “Day of the Dove.” God, what a voice. “This is Kang. Cease hostilities!” **TOS movies** : The conspiracy from _Undiscovered Country_. Politics make strange bedfellows, no? **TNG** : The Duras sisters. Forgive me for being so juvenile, but I’ll take two pair like that over any other hand! **TNG movies** : Data filled with righteous indignation from _Insurrection_. The best of a bad lot. **DS9** : Another vote for Kai Winn. What every person of faith fears most: a megalomaniac zealot with power. **VOY** : Janeway’s conscience. ---
**Author:** ![Blacksheepsmith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@Blacksheepsmith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blacksheepsmith)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-trek-villian/89550/13 "2001-10-25T20:49:25Z")
Tie. You’ll find no bigger fan of Ricardo Montalban and his mind-blowing work in **Wrath of Khan** than me. Truly great work in the grandest Shakespearean style. But the OTS (One True Shatner) ties him, for Evil Kirk from “The Enemy Within.” Shatner embraces the Stanislavski school of method acting and turns in the most troubling look at the dark interior of mankind’s soul that I’ve ever seen. The mascara Shatner has on really clues you in on just how evil Evil Kirk is… Q? What a foppish nerd. No way. ---
**Author:** ![Miaowara\_Tomokato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Miaowara\_Tomokato](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miaowara_Tomokato)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-trek-villian/89550/14 "2001-10-25T21:00:11Z")
**Krug** (Christopher Lloyd) in Search for Spock. Hands down. No contest. He remains the only Klingon who shows us the history of what Klingons are and how they got to be that way, and he does it without a word. His performance was a brief high point above the grunting hockey players that called themselves Klingons in almost all the other works. Mr. Lloyd understood Klingon philosophy and adopted it for the performance. You could **see** him **thinking**! ---
**Author:** ![Fouccalt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/df788c/32.png) [@Fouccalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fouccalt)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-trek-villian/89550/15 "2001-10-25T21:29:20Z")
The collector of the rare things: including Data was named Kivas Fajo…as for my favorite villian(s) were “Species 8472” They tore the hell out fo the Borg and would have completely wiped out the Borg without the help of Voyager. 9 of there bioships had enough weapon power to destroy an entire planet and a single ship can destroy a cube ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-trek-villian/89550/16 "2001-10-25T22:51:58Z")
Well, I was pretty happy with that black tar bad guy (Armus) that killed Tasha Yar…([Skin of Evil](http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/st-tng/episodes/122.html)) As for TOS, I second **Trelane** from “The Squire of Gothos.” “I WOULDA WON!! I WOULDA!!” ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-trek-villian/89550/17 "2001-10-25T23:24:01Z")
Beyond Kahn (who was an amazing villain), I would say that Gul Dukat was downright… chilling. He wasn’t exactly a “villain”, actually. But he was. But he wasn’t. But he was. That sort fo thing. ---
**Author:** ![Lodrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@Lodrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lodrain)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-trek-villian/89550/18 "2001-10-25T23:41:50Z")
A big second for the Romulans - a Warbird is more than a match for a Galaxy-class vessel, and they can cloak. I like how cold and arrogant they seem, and how they can turn alleigances on a dime. The Dominion - the ultimate enemy. Swarms of superior ships, warriors with shrouds and specialised species for specialised jobs. I’d not like to be up against them in any form of combat. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-trek-villian/89550/19 "2001-10-25T23:59:00Z")
Just because no one else has mentioned it, I’ll nominate the Horta from “Devil in the Dark”, even though I suppose it wasn’t really a villian in the end. I still remember the chills I got when Spock did his mind-meld thingy and started screaming, “PAIN!” Course, I was about 12 at the time. Now, whenever I see the ep, I can’t help thinking how much the “Horta” looks like a persian rug with a couple of kids crawling around under it. Oh, well. At least it was one of the few times in the series that an alien race wasn’t either humanoid or a gaseous cloud. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_The\_Bold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/41988e/32.png) [@Dale\_The\_Bold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_The_Bold)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-trek-villian/89550/20 "2001-10-26T00:42:14Z")
Q. Because the only series worth watching regularly was TNG and Q always provided such a dichotomy between himself and Picard. His playfulness and Jean Luc’s seriousness. Loved it. Never watched Voyager. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-trek-villian/89550.md?page=2)