# Favorite Wines

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-wines/926009>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** wine\
**Created:** [November 20, 2020, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-wines/926009 "2020-11-20T03:13:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-wines/926009/61 "2020-12-04T15:49:47Z")

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80% and I have a Bota box in the fridge.

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**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-wines/926009/62 "2020-12-04T18:11:41Z")

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I’m in the middle of taking it, and I’m already bitching about the questions and definitions. Good sign, sigh.

I liked Tom, too, when he’d post on Robin Garr’s board, way back when.

And 20/20. So I should stop whining. (And start wining.)

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**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-wines/926009/63 "2020-12-13T02:12:54Z")

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> [@Gray\_Ghost](#):
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> If you like Cinsault, you might like [Pinotage](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinotage), a cross between Cinsault and Pinot Noir. What about the Cinsaults you’ve had, pleased you?

I picked up a bottle of Spier 2019 Pinotage for $12 I think. On a scale of 1-10 I’d say it’s a 4 or 5. It’s smooth but I’m not getting a lot of fruit or other flavors from it. Could be a more expensive bottle or older vintage would be better. BTW this is the first wine I’ve had from South Africa. It got a 3.4 on Vivino.

Speaking of which, what do you think of the Vivino App, @Gray_Ghost ? For dopers who haven’t discovered it: you take a picture of the label and it accesses a database, tells you how others have rated the wine, gives you an average price paid for a bottle, etc.

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**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-wines/926009/64 "2020-12-13T02:21:53Z")

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Bummer about that Pinotage. [Craven’s Cinsault](https://www.wine-searcher.com/find/craven+cinsault+stellenbosch+coastal+western+cape+south+africa/2017/usa) is on sale, floorstacked locally, and seems to get decent reviews.

I’ve not used Vivino, but I rely a bit on [cellartracker.com](http://cellartracker.com) and [winesearcher.com](http://winesearcher.com) for research in the store. The reviews on CT aren’t by pros, but I can get a gist of the set of primary flavors, and whether She is likely to like it. Still more Edits: some pros I do recommend reading are Allen Meadows (BurgHound) and Fisch and Raver’s _Mosel Fine Wines_.

EDIT: Usually I’m a lot faster just typing in the info on the label, and slow trying to get my camera into action. I totally see the utility of Vivino’s interface though. Especially for labels which can be inscrutable, like old school Gothic script German wine labels

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**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-wines/926009/65 "2020-12-13T12:36:36Z")

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I thought I’d mix my own red. Take some of the sweet Barefoot, mix with the Cinsault…not bad!

I’ll try other pinotages when I get the chance. The local place didn’t have many so I started small. It could be the more expensive ones are great but the cost makes them “special occasion” wines. Thanks for the resources!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-wines/926009/66 "2021-01-17T19:42:43Z")

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Bumped.

This new book may be of interest to Doper wine-lovers:

> **[Wine and the White House: A History](https://shop.whitehousehistory.org/collections/bookstore-books-and-journals/products/whitehousewine)**
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> “A comprehensive story of the American presidents through the grapes and glasses they drank from.” —NEW YORK TIMES BOOK REVIEW, New & Noteworthy   “…fascinating…an in-depth look from an inside source at the sometimes-colorful story of...

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**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-wines/926009/67 "2021-06-29T04:35:22Z")

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We found a favorite of Mrs. L the other day, available in the double bottle size. I looked at her and sang, “That’s when I fell for…the liter and a half.”

Maybe you had to be there.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorite-wines/926009/68 "2021-06-29T20:05:57Z")

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I drink Cabernet out of a box!

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