# Favorites That Everybody Else Hates

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [January 12, 2005, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384 "2005-01-12T14:08:00Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![malkavia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malkavia/32/5621_2.png) [@malkavia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/malkavia)
#### Post date: [January 12, 2005, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/21 "2005-01-12T17:31:28Z")

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My best friend and I appeared to be the **only** people in the theater who laughed _at all_ during [Almost Heroes](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119053/), but I thought it was absolutely fantastic. I later conned my fiance into watching it, he wasn’t in the least bit impressed. Bah!

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### Author: ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)
#### Post date: [January 12, 2005, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/22 "2005-01-12T18:12:24Z")

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I agree with a lot here…

my own…

ERASERHEAD- yes, I actually enjoyed that. So much I tricked the Church Singles Group into watching it. One lady later said she couldn’t eat chicken for a month. 😃

God, The Devil & Bob- I’m getting the DVD tomorrow.

WHERE THE HEART IS starring Dabney Coleman & Joanna Gleason, with Christopher Plummer, Crispin Glover and, both occasionally topless, Uma Thurman & Suzy Amis.

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### Author: ![hocow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hocow/32/4112_2.png) [@hocow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hocow)
#### Post date: [January 12, 2005, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/23 "2005-01-12T18:19:11Z")

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> [@The Gaspode](#):
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> [ul]  
> [li] **Cable Guy**. Many people hate Jim Carrey, though it seems as if he’s getting more and more respect as the years go by. But I haven’t talked to anyone who liked Cable Guy.[/li][/ul]

Well, now you can. I like that movie.

A few of my guilty pleasures include Full House, 7th Heaven, basically any family show that usually takes alot of slack.

Also, if anyone can remember the show “Shasta McNasty”, I loved that at well.

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### Author: ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)
#### Post date: [January 12, 2005, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/24 "2005-01-12T18:40:47Z")

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[QUOTE=The Gaspode]  
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[li] **Shakespeare in Love**. I think the movie was truer to Willie than many other adaptions. This leads to[/li][li] **Gwyneth**. Who’s not a very good actress, but simply endearing. And she really nails the English accents.[/li][/QUOTE]

I thought everyone liked that movie. Didn’t it get best picture and didn’t she get best actress that year?

Well, I loved it anyway. It gets me in my girly spots every time. The ultimate “chick flick.”

Haha.

I’ve always loved Stephen King, and many people think he’s a hack. I much prefer his older stuff, but I will still read some of the new books he puts out.

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### Author: ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)
#### Post date: [January 12, 2005, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/25 "2005-01-12T18:41:42Z")

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The internet crowd loves to hate **Forrest Gump**. (and it seems every single poster who trashes it has to throw out the words “manipulative” and “treacle”–c’mon, give me an original opinion). Anyhow, I think they are kind of missing the point that the whole thing is just a wild rollercoaster ride and you shoudn’t take ANY part of it too seriously, including the ‘serious’ parts. It’s just so damn clever and funny and original. If you don’t like it–fine. But I’ll never understand why it draws such hatred.

The internet’s second-favorite movie to claim hatred for is **Dances With Wolves**. I know it’s not perfect and it does paint the white soldiers with broad strokes. But the story is told from Dunbar’s POV, and I think it’s giving us his (and the ‘Indians’) perception of the white men. And, really, that’s just a secondary story. The real story is about Dunbar’s acceptance by the Sioux and his romance with Stands With Fists. To harp on the movie’s portrayal of “Indians good, white men bad” is to ignore 85% of the story. Plus, it’s just a gorgeous movie to watch. The scenery is beautiful and the cinematography is top notch.

I also really, really like the movie **Bubble Boy**. I can’t defend that one, but it makes me laugh.

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### Author: ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)
#### Post date: [January 12, 2005, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/26 "2005-01-12T18:59:40Z")

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> [@Tangent](#):
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> The internet’s second-favorite movie to claim hatred for is **Dances With Wolves**. I know it’s not perfect and it does paint the white soldiers with broad strokes. But the story is told from Dunbar’s POV, and I think it’s giving us his (and the ‘Indians’) perception of the white men. And, really, that’s just a secondary story. The real story is about Dunbar’s acceptance by the Sioux and his romance with Stands With Fists. To harp on the movie’s portrayal of “Indians good, white men bad” is to ignore 85% of the story. Plus, it’s just a gorgeous movie to watch. The scenery is beautiful and the cinematography is top notch.

The only problem I had with Dances With Wolves is the ending…it didn’t have one. I hate when a movie does that.

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### Author: ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)
#### Post date: [January 12, 2005, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/27 "2005-01-12T19:12:05Z")

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I think **Mystery Men** is one of the most underrated comedies ever.

And **Equilibrium** kicks much ass. I’d much rather watch that than any of the Matrix movies.

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### Author: ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)
#### Post date: [January 12, 2005, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/28 "2005-01-12T19:21:23Z")

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I’ll second **Mystery Men** , so Smeghead, you’re not alone.

I also liked - um - **Derek Zoolander**. :o

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### Author: ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)
#### Post date: [January 12, 2005, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/29 "2005-01-12T19:24:03Z")

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Zoolander, Mystery Men, The Cable Guy, Last Action Hero; The Man With the Golden Gun; Dude, Where’s My Car?; Gremlins 2; Clean Slate; and Almost Heroes - all good movies.

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### Author: ![Tracy\_Lord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@Tracy\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tracy_Lord)
#### Post date: [January 12, 2005, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/30 "2005-01-12T19:40:39Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> **Love’s Labour’s Lost** – A tolerable adaptation of a weak Shakespeare play; the use of music was great.

Loved this one! All of my theater-elitist friends sniff at it, but I think it’s got just the right amount of cheese for the material. And it’s one of my favorite Shakespeare texts, too.

I’ll throw out **Zoolander** too, but especially **Dodgeball** – the latter is, IMO, one of the funniest, smartest comedies of the past five years. Possibly past decade. I love it to pieces. The Jabberwocky, the WWII references, all the _brilliant_ celebrity cameos (Thank YOU, Chuck Norris!), it’s all great.

I’m a fan of costume romances, no matter how poorly acted or written. I’ve got a VHS I found in the $3 bin called _Triumph of Love_, starring Ben Kingsley and a lot of Georgian clothing. That was all I needed to know.

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### Author: ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)
#### Post date: [January 12, 2005, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/31 "2005-01-12T19:41:10Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> I also liked - um - **Derek Zoolander**. :o

I loved that movie. It made me laugh really hard.

Um, so did **Dodgeball**.

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### Author: ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)
#### Post date: [January 12, 2005, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/32 "2005-01-12T20:13:34Z")

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**Joe vs. The Volcano** is one of Tom Hank’s and Meg Ryan’s best roles, it’s got a good screenplay, it’s well shot (especially the early scenes in the office), and it’s fun. I really don’t know why people hate on it so much.

Another vote here for **Zoolander** and **The Cable Guy**. In fact, I think Ben Stiller is pretty darn funny.

Pierce Brosnan was a good Bond, but my favorite Bond movie is **Thunderball**.

Conan O’Brian is one of the funniest men to ever draw breath.

**The Hudsucker Proxy** and **Barton Fink** are two of my favorite movies, and I’m really baffled by all of the Coen Brothers hatin’ that goes on.

**Buckaroo Banzai** has a pretty sizable following, but I think it’s worth a mention here, 'cause it was the first DVD I ever bought.

The 1980 **Flash Gordon** just gets better every time I watch it.

**The Big O** : “Showwwtime!”

Jon Pertwee and Peter Davidson were almost as good at being **Doctor Who** as Tom Baker.

Musically, I love reggae, particularly rock steady and early reggae (1966-1971 or so) and dub (mid-70’s to early 80’s). I don’t like what I call “Jamacia Chamber of Commerce” reggae (watered-down life-is-beautiful reggae that popped up in the wake of Bob Marley’s success), which is, IMHO, what gave reggae a bad name in many quarters.

For some reason, DJ Spooky takes a lot of guff in some quarters, maybe because he’s “too cerebral”. I like cerebral.

If a Steve Miller song comes on the radio, I’ll listen to it, and even like it.

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### Author: ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)
#### Post date: [January 12, 2005, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/33 "2005-01-12T20:17:38Z")

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I geek out for the Olympics. Summer or winter, I don’t care. And the more obscure the sport, the better.

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### Author: ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)
#### Post date: [January 12, 2005, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/34 "2005-01-12T20:26:06Z")

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_Attack of the Killer Tommatoes_

Favorite Bond: George Lazenby, _On Her Majesty’s Secret Service_.

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### Author: ![Agrippina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8797f3/32.png) [@Agrippina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agrippina)
#### Post date: [January 12, 2005, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/35 "2005-01-12T20:34:11Z")

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Not my favorite, but I like the book **Cujo** by Stephen King.

I also like **ABBA**.

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### Author: ![Tentacle\_Monster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba9def/32.png) [@Tentacle\_Monster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tentacle_Monster)
#### Post date: [January 12, 2005, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/36 "2005-01-12T20:52:00Z")

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Music: Seems like any time I play music for anybody, they hate it. GWAR, Devo, Mindless Self Indulgence. The only exception is that my last ex-girlfriend really liked Finntroll and Rammstein.

Movies: I kind of liked Freddie Got Fingered. I liked Cool World.

Anime: _The Ping-Pong Club_.

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### Author: ![Licentious\_Ectomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/5e9695/32.png) [@Licentious\_Ectomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Licentious_Ectomorph)
#### Post date: [January 12, 2005, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/37 "2005-01-12T20:56:36Z")

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**Xanadu.** I’ve seen it listed in at least two different “worst movies of all time” books, but it’s one of my favorites. I think it has a certain charm. If nothing else, it’s a framework for the awesome music! 🙂

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### Author: ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)
#### Post date: [January 12, 2005, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/38 "2005-01-12T21:00:00Z")

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> [@vibrotronica](#):
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> Musically, I love reggae, particularly rock steady and early reggae (1966-1971 or so) and dub (mid-70’s to early 80’s). I don’t like what I call “Jamacia Chamber of Commerce” reggae (watered-down life-is-beautiful reggae that popped up in the wake of Bob Marley’s success), which is, IMHO, what gave reggae a bad name in many quarters.

I’m really into ska (used to play in a ska band), so naturally I enjoy some reggae and rocksteady too. I wish I knew more about them, and dub as well. I enjoy Bob Marley, but I don’t care for “I Can See Clearly Now” and all that–I love your “Jamaica Chamber of Commerce” term for those songs! 🙂 What I really love is the Jamaican music that sounds like 1950s doo-wop and rock ‘n’ roll and early '60s girl group stuff, with those sorts of chord structures but bouncy reggae-style beats. Is this rocksteady, “proto-reggae,” or something else entirely? And who are good artists to check out? Again, I hear names all the time (Ernest Ranglin, Lee “Scratch” Perry, Studio One, etc.), but I don’t know who did what.

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### Author: ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)
#### Post date: [January 12, 2005, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/39 "2005-01-12T21:01:29Z")

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I like many things that are generally disdained on the SDMB, such as the aforementioned **Titanic** , **Forrest Gump** and **Dances With Wolves** , but also **Friends** and, most shockingly of all, recent and current seasons of **The Simpsons**

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### Author: ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)
#### Post date: [January 12, 2005, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/40 "2005-01-12T21:02:20Z")

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I have said in this forum that I believe _Showgirls_ is a misunderstood masterpiece, and anybody who disagrees but who has an open mind is welcome to sit down with me and go through it scene by scene to find out why I think so. You don’t have to agree with me at the end, but I hope my point of view will make sense. I’ve done this twice already, and both times the viewing companion thanked me for helping them come to a new understanding of the film.

I won’t go into detail about it here, because I’ve already done so in other threads, and the discussion never goes well. I think it really is necessary to discuss your way through the actual film while looking at it to get what I’m talking about.

And I expect people to disagree with me again, but that’s fine. Different strokes, and all that.

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