# Favorites That Everybody Else Hates **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 12, 2005, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384 "2005-01-12T14:08:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/41 "2005-01-12T21:03:56Z")
Oh, and yeah, _Titanic_ doesn’t deserve the hatred it gets. It’s hardly a brilliant piece of work, and it shouldn’t have won Best Picture, but it’s still a pretty solid entertainment. ---
**Author:** ![Odinoneeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/97f17d/32.png) [@Odinoneeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odinoneeye)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/42 "2005-01-12T21:22:34Z")
There was a short lived TV series last year called **Method and Red**. It looked stupid and I had no intention of watching it. My stepson, being the hip-hop gansta rapper that he thinks he is was watching it and I got caught up in it. Laughed my ass off (not at it, with it). The next week it was off the air. ---
**Author:** ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/43 "2005-01-12T21:28:45Z")
> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#): > > Is this rocksteady, “proto-reggae,” or something else entirely? Yes, it is proto-reggae. It’s slower than ska and is generally more bass-heavy. It’s generally said to have lasted from 1966-1968, when it became full-blown reggae. > [@](#): > > And who are good artists to check out? Again, I hear names all the time (Ernest Ranglin, Lee “Scratch” Perry, Studio One, etc.), but I don’t know who did what. Since you’re already into ska, I recommend you check out [Rhino’s Roots of Reggae vol. 1](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000033SO/qid=1105564924/sr=8-2/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i2_xgl15/002-2467775-6567202?v=glance&s=music&n=507846). [Vol. 2](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000033SQ/qid=1105564924/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl15/002-2467775-6567202?v=glance&s=music&n=507846) covers the Rock Steady years. Lee “Scratch” Perry is a super-genius producer who ran a studio that was similar in many respects to Stax in Memphis or Motown in Detroit. People could come in off the street and record something if they had a smidgen of talent. Perry produced Marley early in his carrer and, IMHO, it was Marley’s best work. Perry either invented or pioneered many sonic tricks that you take for granted today (the long echo, for example). He is also batshit insane. And you should check out Toots and the Maytals, if you don’t already know them. Get one of the greatest hits albums and not the awful recent comeback album with all of the guest stars. ---
**Author:** ![Caricci](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Caricci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caricci)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/44 "2005-01-12T21:43:28Z")
**Red Dawn** starring Mr. Patrick Swayze is a movie I really like. Okay, the fact that the Wolverines do so well against an actual army isn’t all that real, but I find the depiction of an actual land invasion in the United State very thought provoking. I also love Howard Stern and find him very endearing. ---
**Author:** ![Wartime\_Consigliori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9d8465/32.png) [@Wartime\_Consigliori](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wartime_Consigliori)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/45 "2005-01-12T21:49:04Z")
FWIW, I’m the only **Neil Young** fan who thinks **Trans** and **Re Ac Tor** are two of Neil’s three best albums. Vive la difference! (sic) ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/46 "2005-01-12T21:57:19Z")
**Friends** is one of my favorite television shows. I am not a fan but I have no problems listening to **Top 40 pop**. Britney bores me now but there have been times I’ve liked her singles and some of the more techno bass beat songs that other artists sing (like **Usher** ’s “ **Yeah!** ” and **Justin Timberake** ’s “ **Rock Your Body** ”) are damned catchy until you get sick of them like candy after Halloween. Similarly, I am madly in love with **Michelle Branch** but I have no idea what the general opinion on her is but am putting her down here since she’s a pop/adult contemporary artist. I love **nu metal** , **grunge** , and mainstream **alt-rock** (yeah, I know that’s a weird phrase) I was raised on and have a love/hate relationship with **professional wrestling**. I haven’t watched any in a year or so now but I still read about it occasionally and know that I will eventually get back into it again. I didn’t hate **Star Trek: Voyager** like a lot of people did and I quite enjoy **Star Trek: Enterprise**. I watched the American version of **Coupling** and liked it although I don’t know if that would have kept going as time went on. I am sick of **Full House** because my little sister loves it and would watch it every waking hour if she could but aside from that, I have nothing against the show. I grew up on it and like it well enough if for no other reason than nostalgia. I like **Jennifer Lopez** movies. **Maid in Manhattan** and **Enough** were both entertaining. **Romantic comedies** are amongst my favorite film genres alongside black comedies, period dramas, and science-fiction. **Coyote Ugly** is one of my most favorite movies ever. I like **Adam Sandler** and do not hate **Pauly Shore** as well. ---
**Author:** ![shy\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@shy\_guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shy_guy)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/47 "2005-01-12T22:26:50Z")
I like **Rob Liefeld** ’s artwork. A lot, actually. It’s goofy and derivative, sure, but it’s also fun. I won’t defend his purported assholishness, but I don’t think his art deserves the bad rap it gets. ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/48 "2005-01-12T22:28:50Z")
A classic double bill for me involves Sam Neil being screwed over. **Event Horizon** followed by **In the Mouth of Madness**. I also liked the first **Charlie’s Angels** movie. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/49 "2005-01-12T22:43:09Z")
> [@Indygrrl](#): > > I thought everyone liked [Shakespeare in Love]. Didn’t it get best picture and didn’t she get best actress that year? It did, but many, many, many people didn’t think it deserved it. The competition was tough: “Elizabeth”, “Life is Beautiful” (which won Best Foreign Language), “Saving Private Ryan”, “The Thin Red Line”. I think SPR is less deserving, and found the TRL to be mostly pretentious, but both Life is Beautiful and Elizabeth would’ve gotten less vitriol, had any of them won. And here on the boards, SiL has been slammed many times. Oh, and chalk me down for liking the actress Jennifer Lopez. If her off screen personality was as nice as she is on screen, I could fall in love. ---
**Author:** ![YWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/6f9a4e/32.png) [@YWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YWalker)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/50 "2005-01-12T22:43:44Z")
I liked **Manimal**. ---
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/51 "2005-01-12T22:54:01Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > The internet crowd loves to hate Forrest Gump. (and it seems every single poster who trashes it has to throw out the words “manipulative” and “treacle”–c’mon, give me an original opinion). Anyhow, I think they are kind of missing the point that the whole thing is just a wild rollercoaster ride and you shoudn’t take ANY part of it too seriously, including the ‘serious’ parts. It’s just so damn clever and funny and original. If you don’t like it–fine. But I’ll never understand why it draws such hatred I’m totally with you on this one. Roger Ebert has a great review of this movie. Basically I defer to him on this one as I agree 100% with him. I liked the Villiage. People focus too much on _the twist_ and they miss what’s really there. That’s my opinion anyhow. I love Celine Dion. Others may like her but they are not 27 year old males. Harry Potter IV was my favorite thus far. Mallrats was funny Meet the Deedles was sheer brilliance (okay, was so ridiculous it was funny) ---
**Author:** ![Hunter\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/50afbb/32.png) [@Hunter\_Hawk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hunter_Hawk)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/52 "2005-01-12T22:59:53Z")
I like several of L. Ron Hubbard’s books. ---
**Author:** ![look\_ninjas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b2d939/32.png) [@look\_ninjas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/look_ninjas)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/53 "2005-01-12T23:34:52Z")
I own the album Ringo by Ringo Starr, and I think it’s fabulous. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/54 "2005-01-12T23:35:37Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > I think **Mystery Men** is one of the most underrated comedies ever. Y’know, I only ever see Mystery Men ‘criticized’ in this ‘everybody hates it but me!’ context. Granted, I don’t see it praised much outside a ‘everybody hates it but me!’ context, but that suggests it just dropped under most people’s radar, not that it’s universally disliked. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Babbington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Mr.Babbington](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Babbington)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/55 "2005-01-12T23:51:12Z")
I’ve seen a lot of my choices so I won’t go into those, but I enjoyed **Lockup** with Donald Sutherland and Sly Stallone, **Adventures in Babysitting** with Elizabeth Shue, **Don’t Tell Mom the Babysitter’s Dead** (I see a pattern I didn’t see before…hmmm), **Empire of the Sun** , and for all its faults (of which there are myriad) Willem Defoe in **Speed 2: Cruise Control** has to be one of the funniest performances I have ever seen. I love when actors know they are acting in Crap but don’t care because they are having fun. Ol’ Willem was having fun, plain and simple. Oh yes. I can’t forget **Spiceworld**. ---
**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2005, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/56 "2005-01-13T00:03:39Z")
Sean Connery is the best Bond. David Niven was the one in the parody. Timothy Dalton was the most intense, Roger Moore was the meterosexual Bond, and Pierce Brosnan the post-modern superspy. **George Lazenby** , however, is my all-time favorite Bond and this is an example of where one’s favorite love does not always equal the consensus of what is best. _On Her Majesty’s Secret Service_ was the first Bond movie my mother let me watch on TV; he was the Bond imprinted on my brain when I was intoduced to the Bond mythos and his Bond is the one matched against every subsequent Bond I saw. He was the Bond who fell in love with Diana Rigg’s Teresa “Tracy” Di Vicenzo; who was as happy as a fat kid in a dessert buffet when he was at Blofeld’s’ clinic retreat; the one that was terrified when Blofeld’s men almost cornered him at the ice rink; he was the Bond who cried with Tracy’s blood on his hands. His remains the only Bond that’s made me sad regarding his loss; that’s a neat trick. Most of the criticisms about Lazemby’s perfrmance are true, but I can overlook these and embrace the guy who gamely tried to step in Connery’s shoes. ---
**Author:** ![Scribble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scribble/32/3317_2.png) [@Scribble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scribble)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2005, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/57 "2005-01-13T00:46:58Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > **Ishtar** – a pretty funny (though flawed) comedy. (There seems to be a critical reevaluation of the film, but for most people, “Ishtar” is the epitome of a lousy movie). I loved Ishtar. You’re not alone on this. ---
**Author:** ![MacSpon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/34f0e0/32.png) [@MacSpon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacSpon)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2005, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/58 "2005-01-13T01:48:12Z")
**Biggles** (the movie). **Drop Dead Fred**. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2005, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/59 "2005-01-13T01:57:14Z")
> [@Scribble](#): > > I loved Ishtar. You’re not alone on this. Yep. I agree. _Ishtar_ doesn’t deserve its bad rap. Sure, it cost way more than it should have. That doesn’t mean it isn’t a decent little film. ---
**Author:** ![fruitbat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fruitbat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fruitbat)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2005, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384/60 "2005-01-13T02:08:47Z")
I thought the \*\*Blair Witch Project \*\* was the best horror movie ever made. I have seen thousands of movies and read at least several reviews of each movie I see. It has become fashionable to deride \*\*Blair Witch Project \*\* as a fluke and a garbage movie for the credulous and easily scared, especially among the internet cinephiles. I think there are several reasons it has become so reviled. I am the first to admit that it doesn’t hold up as well over multiple viewings. I would argue that horror, unlike other genres, doesn’t have to. It just has to scare the shit out of you the first time. The second reason is the anyone could do it factor. It was cheaply made and unevenly acted. I found that the acting made it easier to believe that it was a student film and actually heightened the tension. I am a jaded film goer, and I saw it the day it opened, knowing it wasn’t actually a true story, but little else. I was actually frightened for the first time since I saw The Exorcist as a little kid. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favorites-that-everybody-else-hates/284384.md?page=4)