# Favre to retire - again

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [February 11, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382 "2009-02-11T16:30:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382/1 "2009-02-11T16:30:45Z")

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Brett has announced that he will _again_ retire.

[link](http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/02/11/espn-report-brett-favre-to-finally-retire/)

I like him, but I hope it sticks this time.

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**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382/2 "2009-02-11T16:34:55Z")

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Good fucking Jesus. This guy has a career in reality TV ahead of him. He’s a fucking joke.

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**Author:** ![SaharaTea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SaharaTea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaharaTea)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382/3 "2009-02-11T16:41:18Z")

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So how long before he decides to come out of retirement, again?

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382/4 "2009-02-11T16:42:28Z")

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What a fucking clown.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382/5 "2009-02-11T16:45:07Z")

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I imagine the Packers will do the whole “sign for one day” thing so he can officially retire in the green and gold. I know there was bad blood in their split, but for him to end his career as anything but a Packer would be a travesty.

I remain of two minds about the whole deal of last season. Part of me thinks he was a complete fool. He could have retired having led the Pack to the NFC Championship game – he’d have walked away with one of the strongest fan bases in the league fully behind him, and would have been one of the most beloved people in the team’s history. Bygones will eventually be bygones, but there is quite a bit of fan resentment that he could’ve avoided.

On the other hand, the selfish part of me is glad he did it. Now he won’t be inducted the same year as Michael Strahan. Stray will be the biggest name inducted four years from now, meaning the Giants will be in the Hall Of Fame game that year, meaning I’ll be taking a little drive to Canton. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382/6 "2009-02-11T16:45:28Z")

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No surprise there. I wonder if he’ll leave a third of his kingdom to Cordelia, or if he’ll just divide it between Aaron Rodgers and Kellen Clemens.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382/7 "2009-02-11T17:05:10Z")

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When will he change his mind - again?

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**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382/8 "2009-02-11T17:07:19Z")

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> [@Khadaji](#):
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> I like him, but I hope it sticks this time.

I despise him, and predict it won’t. Anybody want to bet $10 his name isn’t popping up in rumors this summer?

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382/9 "2009-02-11T17:18:06Z")

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> [@furt](#):
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> I despise him, and predict it won’t. Anybody want to bet $10 his name isn’t popping up in rumors this summer?

“Popping up in rumors” is a little vague. I’ll happy drop $20 that, beyond a tolken signing with the Packers, he will remain retired.

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382/10 "2009-02-11T17:26:43Z")

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**Dudley** , **Sitnam** , come on now. Yes, the annual “will he or won’t he” is undeniably silly, but it’s really not a big deal, and his being a phenomenal, historic QB should (and ultimately will) overshadow the off-season nonsense of these past few years.

It’s hard for me to imagine that he isn’t done for good this time (let’s hope), so it’s worth acknowledging that, although he’s bungled his retirement, and though the worshipful treatment of Favre by mainstream sports journalists is annoying, he really was good for the game and fun to watch. He was a great QB for a long time, and also a very good QB for a long time. His record as a starter was 169-100 (.628) – he had only one losing season, in 2005, out of \*\*17 \*\*as a starter. And though you certainly couldn’t call his supporting cast poor or even below average, he had all his success without ever playing with a great WR (with the \*possible \*exception of a couple of years of Sterling Sharpe).

Obviously the Favre Retirement Lovefest has got to be subdued seeing as how we’ve already done it before, but I think we should still be wishing him well instead of being upset with him.

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**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382/11 "2009-02-11T17:36:27Z")

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> [@Hal\_Briston](#):
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> “Popping up in rumors” is a little vague. I’ll happy drop $20 that, beyond a tolken signing with the Packers, he will remain retired.

IMO, he wants to play for a very specific, short list of teams (the Vikes being one). I’m not going to bet that he will, definitely, be back, because I don’t know if any of those teams will want him – my guess is not.

But I am willing to bet that come this summer, he’s going to see if they do, and that he’ll be telling Peter King he’s “feeling the itch,” (King will eagerly offer to scratch him) or some such, and that we’ll get one last round of “will he or won’t he?”

How about “statements about Favre considering re-un-retirement will appear on at least two major sports websites, sourced either to Favre, his agents, family, or sources ‘close’ to him.”

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382/12 "2009-02-11T17:46:33Z")

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I am still a Brett Favre fan and grateful for how he helped revive the Packer franchise, but man he has totally botched this reitrement thing for the past 3-4 years.

He may get the itch at some point, but I really don’t think there is a team that would want him at this point…too short term and too risky.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382/13 "2009-02-11T18:23:55Z")

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I’m happy he fucked the Jets up just when they were getting to be a problem opponent again.

Thanks, Brett.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382/14 "2009-02-11T18:55:09Z")

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There is absolutely NO way brett is coming back after this final retirement.

He now knows how stupid it was to retire in the first place…he is hurt, he is old, and he is not gonna come back.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382/15 "2009-02-11T18:57:53Z")

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He could succumb to Vinny Testaverde syndrome.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382/16 "2009-02-11T19:01:07Z")

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I think Favre is a joke, but he’s hardly the first nor the worst to do this. Earvin Johnson retired three times as I recall.

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382/17 "2009-02-11T19:18:32Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I think Favre is a joke, but he’s hardly the first nor the worst to do this. Earvin Johnson retired three times as I recall.

Twice, by my count (could be wrong). Michael Jordan retired three times, though.

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**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382/18 "2009-02-11T19:58:55Z")

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> [@VarlosZ](#):
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> Twice, by my count (could be wrong). Michael Jordan retired three times, though.

The thing that annoys people, I think, is not the retiring or unretiring. It’s the incessant will-he-or-won’t he schtick.

Jordan retired suddenly, after the death of his father, then returned suddenly. His second retirement was expected.

The Wizards never happened.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382/19 "2009-02-11T20:05:34Z")

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> [@furt](#):
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> Jordan retired suddenly, after the death of his father

I think you’re forgetting his “retirement” from the Bulls to go play baseball, right when the big-money gambling stories were breaking.

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> The Wizards never happened.

Imaging coaching that bunch, and having to give instructions to your owner. How could he maintain any kind of control over his team, knowing there was a player who could fire _him_? Well, actually, there are non-owning players with that kind of power too.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382/20 "2009-02-11T22:13:31Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> I think you’re forgetting his “retirement” from the Bulls to go play baseball, right when the big-money gambling stories were breaking.

That’s the same retirement, and their ain’t enough :rolleyes: in the world for the gambling theories.

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