# Favre to retire - again **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [February 11, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382 "2009-02-11T16:30:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382/21 "2009-02-11T22:16:16Z")
Is it Spring already? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382/22 "2009-02-11T22:18:32Z")
> [@ShibbOleth](#): > > Is it Spring already? Naw. Favre saw his shadow, which means six more weeks of speculation. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Superhero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Superhero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Superhero)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382/23 "2009-02-11T22:32:17Z")
It all just serves to remind me how glad I am that I got to watch John Elway win two Super Bowls, retire gracefully and stay retired, leaving my fond memories of watching him play entirely untainted. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382/24 "2009-02-12T04:54:11Z")
> [@The\_Superhero](#): > > It all just serves to remind me how glad I am that I got to watch John Elway win two Super Bowls, retire gracefully and stay retired, leaving my fond memories of watching him play entirely untainted. He still could have gotten those teeth fixed though. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382/25 "2009-02-12T16:06:11Z")
He could give up football and still come back with the Lions. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382/26 "2009-02-12T16:45:57Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > He could give up football and still come back with the Lions. I heard that he’s retiring and moving to Detroit. To get as far away from professional football as possible. ---
**Author:** ![Roland\_Orzabal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c2a13f/32.png) [@Roland\_Orzabal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roland_Orzabal)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382/27 "2009-02-12T17:49:31Z")
> [@furt](#): > > The thing that annoys people, I think, is not the retiring or unretiring. It’s the incessant will-he-or-won’t he schtick. I agree with you in general, but personally, I’ll take winters of will-he-or-won’t-he over umpteen false “retirements” any day. With Favre-style waffling, all you have to do is ignore it completely until the start of the next season, at which point you have your answer: is he on the field or not? With the multiple-retirees, especially the biggest names, you never really know where you stand. I know I’m on record as hating basketball, and I do, but as a child of the 90s, even I recognized the impact that Michael Jordan had on the sport and American culture as a whole. When he first retired, it seemed to my tween-aged eyes like the end of an era, a mark in the history books…but oh wait, never mind, he’s back. Ok, now he’s leaving again, cue the music, and…wait for it, waaaait for it…back! And gone again. But then he’s sort of back again, running the Wizards, and then he’s playing again, and…really, how many times can the public be expected to care? When I’m appointed King of Sports, you can waffle all you want, but once you sign your retirement papers, you’re barred from ever playing again. Own or coach as many teams as you like, but your days on the field (court, etc.) are over. Best make sure you mean it. ---
**Author:** ![HubZilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ccd318/32.png) [@HubZilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HubZilla)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382/28 "2009-02-12T23:27:14Z")
> [@Roland\_Orzabal](#): > > When I’m appointed King of Sports, you can waffle all you want, but once you sign your retirement papers, you’re barred from ever playing again. Own or coach as many teams as you like, but your days on the field (court, etc.) are over. Best make sure you mean it. I’ve posted this before, I figured if I was all-powerful and in charge of the world for a day, I’d have the respective Hall of Fames only take you in with your last team. Not to make a statement, just to mess with them. Oh, and I’d make it retroactive. And I wouldn’t accept ceremonial one-day contracts for retirements. Johnny Unitas would be a Charger Emmitt Smith would be a Cardinal Joe Montana would be a Chief Jerry Rice would a Seahawk Ronnie Lott would be a Jet OJ Simpson would be a 49er (since the 49ers seem to lose so many) Vince Lombardi would be a Redskins coach Although free agency would make this harder, I’ll pick on the other leagues, too. Michael Jordan would be a Wizard Hakeem Olajuwon would be a Raptor Willie Mays would be a Met Babe Ruth would be a Brave ---
**Author:** ![Loopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loopus/32/15343_2.png) [@Loopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopus)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382/29 "2009-02-13T23:52:08Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Imaging coaching that bunch, and having to give instructions to your owner. How could he maintain any kind of control over his team, knowing there was a player who could fire _him_? Well, actually, there are non-owning players with that kind of power too. As I recall, Jordan sold his interest in the team before signing, as per NBA rules. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2009, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382/30 "2009-02-14T01:27:55Z")
Goodbye, and good riddance. Let him start a NFL-record streak of clearing brush or something. I’m sick to death of him, and how people fail to see the whiny drama queen underneath because of the Donald-Trump’s-hairpiece-level-of-unconvincing folksy awww-shucks country boy schtick. > [@Hal\_Briston](#): > > I imagine the Packers will do the whole “sign for one day” thing so he can officially retire in the green and gold. I know there was bad blood in their split, but for him to end his career as anything but a Packer would be a travesty. Apparently you missed whole 2008 offseason thing. He’s _already_ retired as a Packer once. > [@Marley23](#): > > Naw. Favre saw his shadow, which means six more weeks of speculation. You, sir, win the thread. And it isn’t close. ---
**Author:** ![DKW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dkw/32/3118_2.png) [@DKW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DKW)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2009, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382/31 "2009-02-14T21:16:35Z")
I’m pretty sure this is it, if for no other reason that he’s just not any good anymore. The one thing that there is no forgiveness for is stinking it up on the field. Frankly, I’m amazed he lasted this long. What kind of legendary achievements has he done to warrant this preferential treatment? I mean, he _used_ to be really good, no doubt, but not Warren Moon good (let alone Steve Young or John Elway). He clearly has some ego/attention issues, and I just hope that he mans up and takes care of them. Otherwise, life is going to get painfully long. garygun - What about Vinny Testaverde? Stay in it for the records, you mean? ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2009, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382/32 "2009-02-14T22:35:05Z")
> [@DKW](#): > > … > garygun - What about Vinny Testaverde? Stay in it for the records, you mean? I mean sitting on his couch, telephone in hand, waiting to accept a call from a team desperate for a QB mid-season. ---
**Author:** ![satoridt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@satoridt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/satoridt)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382/33 "2009-02-15T23:09:15Z")
> [@DKW](#): > > Frankly, I’m amazed he lasted this long. What kind of legendary achievements has he done to warrant this preferential treatment? I mean, he _used_ to be really good, no doubt, but not Warren Moon good (let alone Steve Young or John Elway). lol! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/favre-to-retire-again/485382.md?page=1)