# FBI Agent in Petraeus Case Sent Shirtless Photos to Jill Kelley. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 13, 2012, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854 "2012-11-13T02:20:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/21 "2012-11-13T10:33:33Z")
I’m still waiting for Michael Westen to take things into his own hands. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/22 "2012-11-13T10:43:19Z")
If it turns out that Petraeus has tweeted crotch shots, I’m officially giving up any hope of mature adults running the government. ---
**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/23 "2012-11-13T12:50:09Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > How much weirder can this thing get? How about [this](http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/11/another-shoe-drops-petraeusgate-investigation)? > [@](#): > > ``` > The FBI probe into the sex scandal that led to the resignation of CIA director David Petraeus has expanded to ensnare Gen. John R. Allen, the commander of U.S. and NATO troops in Afghanistan, the Pentagon announced early Tuesday. > > According to a senior U.S. defense official, the FBI has uncovered between 20,000 and 30,000 pages of “potentially inappropriate” emails between Allen and Jill Kelley, a 37-year-old Tampa woman whose close friendship with Petraeus ultimately led to his downfall.... > > ``` The soap-operatic quality of this is quite staggerring. Kevin Drum is a wonkish center-left blogger whose natural territory is posts with lots of charts about Social Security and he can’t stop writing about this. What the hell were these people doing? It’s like some Coen Brothers movie. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/24 "2012-11-13T13:19:29Z")
Okay, who is the bastard who thought that it would be a good idea to stop sprikling saltpeter in the General’s breakfasts? Yes I know that Saltpeter was not used for that purpose but still… ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/25 "2012-11-13T13:27:04Z")
Jill Kelly was one of the great adult film performers of the 1990s. It’s too bad it’s not the same person. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/26 "2012-11-13T13:37:09Z")
[_These_](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/36/Milk_jug_upright.jpg) are jugs. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/27 "2012-11-13T14:02:47Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > I’m still waiting for Michael Westen to take things into his own hands. Lets buy Sam a cheap case of beer and get Fiona some explosives and get this party started. And who the hell has time to crank out 20 to 30 thousands pages of emails? Did somebody hire Dio as a ghost writer? ---
**Author:** ![Vita\_Beata](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@Vita\_Beata](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vita_Beata)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/28 "2012-11-13T14:08:46Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > I wish someone would hurry up and release the photo. I’m still looking for an 8 for my Political Pecs Scale. …_rushes to stand in line, peers expectantly over Inner Stickler’s shoulder_… ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/29 "2012-11-13T14:20:32Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Takes more than huge jugs to make a woman attractive. OOOOOOOkay, son…just take it easy…just set the keyboard down niiiiiiiice and sloooooowwww…that’s right…you’re doin’ fine…yessir…we’ll get you a nice place to rest, and lot’s of time to think…nice, safe comfortable walls all around you… ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/30 "2012-11-13T16:18:32Z")
> [@Lantern](#): > > What the hell were these people doing? It’s like some Coen Brothers movie. Yeah, I immediately thought of _Burn After Reading_. They can get [John Malkovich](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/nOZSt6uHKrI/0.jpg)to play [Petraeus](http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01395/David-Petraeus_1395264c.jpg)in the TV movie. Maybe they can add a scene like [this one.](http://popshifter.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/malkovich-burn-after-readin.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/31 "2012-11-13T16:41:01Z")
Man, this scandal is getting good! This general Petraeus-he doesn’t appear all that bright. I see him as a slightly dopier version of Gen. Alexander Haig (Nixon’s favorite, over-promoted general). ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/32 "2012-11-13T16:46:42Z")
> [@handsomeharry](#): > > OOOOOOOkay, son…just take it easy…just set the keyboard down niiiiiiiice and sloooooowwww…that’s right…you’re doin’ fine…yessir…we’ll get you a nice place to rest, and lot’s of time to think…nice, safe comfortable walls all around you… I think what my friend may have meant is “it takes \*really \*huge jugs to make an ugly woman attractive.” ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/33 "2012-11-13T16:56:23Z")
[QUOTE=Mother Jones] . . the FBI has uncovered between 20,000 and 30,000 pages of “potentially inappropriate” emails between Allen and Jill Kelley, a 37-year-old Tampa woman whose close friendship with Petraeus ultimately led to his downfall. [/quote] That’s a lot of inappropriate email. I wonder how much _appropriate_ email they sent each other. . . ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/34 "2012-11-13T16:56:51Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > I think what my friend may have meant is “it takes \*really \*huge jugs to make an ugly woman attractive.” Phew! For a moment there, I thought the world had turned upside down! Thanks for putting my mind at rest!🙂 ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/35 "2012-11-13T17:00:21Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > A definite WTF moment there. > > And THESE are the people “running” things?! Don’t be silly. One shirtless man with a gun and legal access to all of your personal files and complete authority to shoot you and/or confiscate all of your possessions and deprive you of liberty with impunity can hardly be anything about which one should worry. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/36 "2012-11-13T17:09:47Z")
Forgive me, but I’ve missed this story except in passing. Can somebody Cliff Notes what happened for me so I can catch up? ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/37 "2012-11-13T17:10:37Z")
> [@handsomeharry](#): > > Don’t be silly. One shirtless man with a gun and legal access to all of your personal files and complete authority to shoot you and/or confiscate all of your possessions and deprive you of liberty with impunity can hardly be anything about which one should worry. Let’s not forget the ability to have you shipped to a remote military base so he can torture you with impunity. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/38 "2012-11-13T17:31:31Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > Forgive me, but I’ve missed this story except in passing. Can somebody Cliff Notes what happened for me so I can catch up? [Here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loVhvZWpTwM) Sorry wrong clip here > **[A Guide to the Petraeus Affair's Growing Cast](https://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2012/11/13/david_petraeus_paula_broadwell_jill_kelley_a_list_of_who_s_who_in_the_petraeus.html)** > > The cast of characters in the widening scandal that brought a stunning end to the storied career of all-around national security powerhouse David Petra ... ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/39 "2012-11-13T17:32:38Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > Forgive me, but I’ve missed this story except in passing. Can somebody Cliff Notes what happened for me so I can catch up? Petraeus (head of the CIA) was having an affair with his official biographer, Patricia Broadwell, who then wrote a suspiciously flattering book about him. He apparently broke it off a few months ago. Broadwell then sent some vaguely harassing, anonymous emails to Jill Kelly, an unpaid party-planner for the military in Tampa who was a friend of Petraeus, probably because she thought Kelly was having an affair with Petraeus and was jealous. Kelly showed the emails to a friend of hers in the FBI. The FBI agent, who seems to have been on some sort of ulterior motive, got the FBI to start an investigation on the grounds the emails were “harassing”. The emails didn’t mention either Broadwell or Petraeus by name, so the FBI initially didn’t realize who they were investigating. But they put a strangely large amount of resources into tracking down the owner of the account (probably because the FBI agent was pushing the case) and figured out the account belonged to Broadwell and that she was getting romantic emails from Petraeus. They also searched Broadwell’s computers, and found classified documents on them, raising concerns Petraeus was illegally giving his lover classified information. Worried that Petraeus was being blackmailed or set up or something, the FBI continued to monitor the account. The original FBI agent was also kicked off the case for being “too involved”. The FBI agent decided that they were trying to cover up the case to protect Petraeus, and so leaked the investigation to Republicans in Congress. They called the US head of Intelligence, who talked to Petraeus about the affair. Petraeus then submitted his resignation, which Obama accepted. This seems to have sparked a reopening of the original investigation. Broadwell’s home was raided over the weekend, and Kelly’s email has apparently been searched as well, revealing “inappropriate” emails between her and another high-level General and the fact that the original FBI agent who started the whole thing had sent her shirtless photos back before the investigation had started. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/40 "2012-11-13T17:40:19Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > This has got to be the most fun news story of all time. Spies, Generals, obsessed FBI agents, crazy mistresses. Its got everything. Right? > [@](#): > > I’m half expecting Petraeus’s long lost twin-brother to show up. I honestly would not be surprised if this happened at this point. Honestly. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854.md?page=3)