# FBI Agent in Petraeus Case Sent Shirtless Photos to Jill Kelley. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 13, 2012, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854 "2012-11-13T02:20:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/61 "2012-11-13T19:48:15Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > Who is 9 and 10? 9 is Obama. 10 is reserved for Ryan Gosling in case he ever gets into government. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/62 "2012-11-13T19:50:09Z")
“Self-appointed go between”? How does one appoint themselves into that kind of position? Then there’s this: > [@](#): > > In recent years, Kelley and her husband, Scott, had appointed themselves ad-hoc social ambassadors for military personnel at nearby MacDill Air Force Base She’s awfully good at “self-appointing” herself into positions involving important people. It makes one wonder if she’s not some sort of intelligence operative or something. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/63 "2012-11-13T19:52:17Z")
Doubtful. She’s a rich lady who lives on Bayshore. She just wanted to collect influential friends so she started throwing parties. ---
**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/64 "2012-11-13T20:15:35Z")
Yeah she was probably just a social climber. But I would bet the CIA/FBI will take no chances and will carefully investigate her activities. This [article](http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/battle_john_allen_also_helped_jill_YjkEYUNY2INC4smBMEYqUI/0)has some more details about her sister’s custody battle where both Allen and Petraeus helped her. It probably doesn’t mean anything but John Kerry is mentioned: > [@](#): > > And in court documents filed by Kelley’s sister Natalie Khawam, she name-drops both Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts and Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island – who both have ties to a Providence, RI, lawyer/lobbyist who loaned a whopping $300,000 to Khawam. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/65 "2012-11-13T20:40:24Z")
If someone had pitched this as the plot for a new fall drama on the CW, it would have been rejected as being too far fetched and unbelievable. What a delightfully weird world we live in. ---
**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/66 "2012-11-13T20:41:31Z")
> [@ladyfoxfyre](#): > > Doubtful. She’s a rich lady who lives on Bayshore. She just wanted to collect influential friends so she started throwing parties. A “rich lady” who is apparently $3,000,000+ in debt… ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/67 "2012-11-13T20:46:39Z")
You act like those are mutually exclusive. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/68 "2012-11-13T21:01:24Z")
I wonder if salacious drama like this is going on in my agency. Kind of wish it was. Sure would make work more interesting! ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/69 "2012-11-13T21:32:37Z")
Give it time, it’ll probably get there too. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/70 "2012-11-13T21:36:12Z")
> [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](#): > > A “rich lady” who is apparently $3,000,000+ in debt… Someone who isn’t rich would never get a loan for $3 million. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/71 "2012-11-13T23:25:02Z")
> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > I wonder if salacious drama like this is going on in my agency. Kind of wish it was. Sure would make work more interesting! Take the initiative! Make it so! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/72 "2012-11-13T23:32:13Z")
And in today’s piece of comedy gold: [Jill Kelley calls Tampa police to request “diplomatic security”](http://www.businessinsider.com/report-jill-kelley-just-called-police-to-request-diplomatic-security-2012-11). No really. > [@](#): > > “You know, I don’t know if by any chance, because I’m an honorary consul general, so I have inviolability, so they should not be able to cross my property. I don’t know if you want to get diplomatic protection involved as well,” she told the 911 dispatcher, who agreed to pass the information along to police. ---
**Author:** ![Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freddy_the_Pig)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/73 "2012-11-14T00:07:57Z")
OK, let’s see what we know about Jill Kelley so far. She’s a bored rich socialite who _lives_ to get close to people in power. Her life revolves around gossip, name-dropping, and lavish parties at which she sucks up to military brass. She has a ton of money but also a ton of debt and she’s constantly being sued. Now, put yourself in Paula Broadwell’s position. You’re having an affair with a general which positively _must_ be kept secret. Wouldn’t Jill Kelley be the absolute _last_ person to whom you would send anonymous, hissy, harassing e-mails? I mean, could you pick a _worse_ target if I gave you a week to think about it? God _damn_, people can be stupid. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/74 "2012-11-14T00:09:05Z")
Whooooooooole lotta stupid going around here. ---
**Author:** ![Kansas\_Beekeeper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c37758/32.png) [@Kansas\_Beekeeper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kansas_Beekeeper)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/75 "2012-11-14T00:13:31Z")
> [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](#): > > OK, let’s see what we know about Jill Kelley so far. She’s a bored rich socialite who _lives_ to get close to people in power. Her life revolves around gossip, name-dropping, and lavish parties at which she sucks up to military brass. She has a ton of money but also a ton of debt and she’s constantly being sued. > > Now, put yourself in Paula Broadwell’s position. You’re having an affair with a general which positively _must_ be kept secret. Wouldn’t Jill Kelley be the absolute _last_ person to whom you would send anonymous, hissy, harassing e-mails? I mean, could you pick a _worse_ target if I gave you a week to think about it? > > God _damn_, people can be stupid. I’m hoping for a lesbian porn video with Broadwell and Kelly. (At this point anything seems possible.) ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/76 "2012-11-14T00:14:52Z")
GOD I am loving this story. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/77 "2012-11-14T00:46:44Z")
I doubt she’s a spy of any sort, as has been speculated on. Unless she’s the dumbest fucking spy who ever lived. I can imagine the call to her handler: Hello, Aziz? Yeah, I just got of the phone with the FBI. This bitch was all up in my face about General P, and I said “oh no you dint” and dropped a dime on her skanky ass. . .oh, can you hold on a sec, there’s somebody at the door…::gunshot:: ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/78 "2012-11-14T00:47:47Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > I doubt she’s a spy of any sort, as has been speculated on. Unless she’s the dumbest fucking spy who ever lived. Maybe that’s her cover! After all, if someone seems like the type of person who could be a good spy, then they’re a pretty crappy spy. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/79 "2012-11-14T00:54:10Z")
I’m expecting a video entitled “Wilford Brimely-Bi Curious and working it for America” before this is over with. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/80 "2012-11-14T01:09:50Z")
In the picture of her rump [in this article](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2231859/David-Petraeus-affair-new-Lewinsky-scandal-Paula-Broadwell-Jill-Kelley-turn-Monica-aides-legal-advice.html), does Kelley have a little pee stain, or is that just a shadow? 😃 (Also note that license plate - _well isn’t that special_?) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854.md?page=5)