# FBI Agent in Petraeus Case Sent Shirtless Photos to Jill Kelley. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 13, 2012, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854 "2012-11-13T02:20:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/81 "2012-11-14T01:24:43Z")
I don’t understand how it’s possible to send anyone 20,000 pages of anything. That is just messed up on principle. ---
**Author:** ![Kansas\_Beekeeper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c37758/32.png) [@Kansas\_Beekeeper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kansas_Beekeeper)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/82 "2012-11-14T01:28:37Z")
> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > I don’t understand how it’s possible to send anyone 20,000 pages of anything. That is just messed up on principle. If they just kept hitting reply and never starting a new thread, wouldn’t it accumulate pretty quick? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/83 "2012-11-14T01:30:02Z")
> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > I don’t understand how it’s possible to send anyone 20,000 pages of anything. That is just messed up on principle. [It’s messed-up counting.](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/11/13/psa-gen-john-allen-did-not-send-30000-e-mails-to-jill-kelley/) ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/84 "2012-11-14T01:48:08Z")
> [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](#): > > OK, let’s see what we know about Jill Kelley so far. She’s a bored rich socialite who _lives_ to get close to people in power. Her life revolves around gossip, name-dropping, and lavish parties at which she sucks up to military brass. She has a ton of money but also a ton of debt and she’s constantly being sued. I think you may be conflating divorced, evil, broke, custody losing lawyer twin with married, socialite, 20,000 email page sending, party throwing twin. ---
**Author:** ![5\_time\_champ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/278dde/32.png) [@5\_time\_champ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5_time_champ)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/85 "2012-11-14T02:54:24Z")
> [@ladyfoxfyre](#): > > GOD I am loving this story. I just hope there aren’t photos of Holly Petraeus flashing the [Gasparilla Parade](http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/source-email-to-tampa-woman-touched-off-patraeus-investigation/1261129). :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/86 "2012-11-14T03:00:08Z")
> [@ladyfoxfyre](#): > > Doubtful. She’s a rich lady who lives on Bayshore. She just wanted to collect influential friends so she started throwing parties. My predicton… we will learn Ms. Kelley was boinking lots of Top Brass. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/87 "2012-11-14T03:34:12Z")
No comment. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/88 "2012-11-14T04:26:19Z")
Jill Kelley [ran](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/13/jill-kelley-charity-david-petraeus_n_2124213.html?utm_hp_ref=tw)a dubious cancer charity . Her sister [apparently](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9676330/David-Petraeus-affair-Florida-twins-courted-generals-and-racked-up-millions-in-debt.html)dated Charlie Crist. ---
**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/89 "2012-11-14T06:30:23Z")
Apparently the honorary consul title is real though obviously it doesn’t give Kelley anything like the “immunity” she claimed. Also [this](http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2012/11/13/businessman-gives-his-take-on-jill-kelleys-role-as-honorary-consul-to-south-korea/)interesting tidbit about Kelley trying to move in on a Korean business deal: > [@](#): > > One businessman is shedding light on Kelley’s honorary title. TransGas Development President Adam Victor told us he met Kelley in August at the Republican National Convention in Tampa, where she was introduced to him as a close friend of then-CIA Director David Petraeus who had many business contacts in South Korea. > > Victor arranged for her to visit his New York office to discuss potential opportunities in the South Korean coal industry, but he began to question Kelley’s credentials after the meeting. “David Petraeus arranged for her to get that position,” Victor said of Kelley’s honorary consul title. “She may have contacts but she hasn’t negotiated large deals before.” > > Victor said Kelley asked for a coal gasification finder’s fee of two percent if a deal materialized – about $80 million in this case –a fee Victor said far exceeds market standards. > > “Why would Petraeus appoint her to that position?” Victor asked. “She got a position she wasn’t qualified for through David Petraeus and I have no idea why. I feel that I wasted my time.” ---
**Author:** ![Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freddy_the_Pig)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/90 "2012-11-14T14:59:03Z")
> [@astro](#): > > I think you may be conflating divorced, evil, broke, custody losing lawyer twin with married, socialite, 20,000 email page sending, party throwing twin. No, socialite twin is also a regular on the civil defendant scene, at least if the link from [Post #60](http://www.businessinsider.com/all-of-the-lawsuits-against-jill-kelley-2012-11) is to be believed. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/91 "2012-11-14T15:50:01Z")
> [@Lantern](#): > > Her sister [apparently](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9676330/David-Petraeus-affair-Florida-twins-courted-generals-and-racked-up-millions-in-debt.html)dated Charlie Crist. Too bad it wasn’t Charlie Sheen. ---
**Author:** ![Hooleehootoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/eada6e/32.png) [@Hooleehootoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hooleehootoo)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/92 "2012-11-14T18:54:48Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > And who the hell has time to crank out 20 to 30 thousands pages of emails? Did somebody hire Dio as a ghost writer? Can anyone add evidence to the hunch that this 20-30k page number is a byte count that might include some different type of files like photos, rather than pure text? ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/93 "2012-11-14T18:58:32Z")
> [@Hooleehootoo](#): > > Can anyone add evidence to the hunch that this 20-30k page number is a byte count that might include some different type of files like photos, rather than pure text? The DoJ has said its a page count. So the number of physical pages when they printed them all out. The number of actual emails was apparently “a few 100’s”, which isn’t exactly trivial, but also not totally insane like the 20-30k number previously reported. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/94 "2012-11-14T19:10:56Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > The DoJ has said its a page count. So the number of physical pages when they printed them all out. > > The number of actual emails was apparently “a few 100’s”, which isn’t exactly trivial, but also not totally insane like the 20-30k number previously reported. The large number is supposedly accounted for by previous e-mails in a chain being repeated over and over every time one is replied to. The entire chain was printed out separately in each case, even though the message was repeated. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/95 "2012-11-14T19:12:04Z")
That’s right, the FBI also doesn’t know how to print emails. ---
**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/96 "2012-11-14T19:14:29Z")
Given the broad reach of the SDMB, this link may be pertinent to some here: > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—In response to a high volume of panicked phone calls from the general public, the C.I.A. has published a new informational brochure entitled “How to Tell if You’re Involved in the Petraeus Scandal.” > > The C.I.A. rushed to produce the brochure after it became clear that as many as one in three Americans may have some involvement in the Petraeus affair. > > And with the scandal widening every day, “a lot of average folks out there are worried that they might somehow be involved in it without knowing,” says Carol Foyler, director of the C.I.A.’s public-information office. “This booklet should clear up a lot misunderstandings.” Read more: [How to Tell if You’re Involved in the Petraeus Scandal | The New Yorker](http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2012/11/how-to-tell-if-youre-involved-in-the-petraeus-scandal.html#ixzz2CE4TPECE) Next they need to do is put out “How to tell if you’re married but don’t know it” ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/97 "2012-11-14T19:15:55Z")
And the director of the CIA and West Point grad don’t know how to use them either. Then again I recall the great SDMB multi/nested quote fiasco that occured not so long ago 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/98 "2012-11-14T19:17:06Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > That’s right, the FBI also doesn’t know how to print emails. The article linked above suggests its some sort of legal requirement. ---
**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/99 "2012-11-14T19:18:01Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > The large number is supposedly accounted for by previous e-mails in a chain being repeated over and over every time one is replied to. The entire chain was printed out separately in each case, even though the message was repeated. Well, that’s just rude email etiquette to not delete all the old stuff beyond the immediate email that you’re responding to. They should be ashamed of themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854/100 "2012-11-14T19:21:32Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > The article linked above suggests its some sort of legal requirement. Alright. Then put it another way: if they were printing the same emails dozens of times, they were stupid to characterize it as tens of thousands of pages. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-agent-in-petraeus-case-sent-shirtless-photos-to-jill-kelley/640854.md?page=6)