# FBI investigates skinny-dipper in foreign country!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-investigates-skinny-dipper-in-foreign-country/632079>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 20, 2012, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-investigates-skinny-dipper-in-foreign-country/632079 "2012-08-20T18:02:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-investigates-skinny-dipper-in-foreign-country/632079/41 "2012-08-21T04:22:27Z")

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> [@sevenwood](#):
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> We’ll alert the people of Israel of your opinion. I’m confident it will change their minds as to the congressman’s behavior.

Do you have a cite for an Israeli study showing how nude bathing can defile a lake?

> [@Cheeseteak](#):
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> I think he just wore sandals.

He wore thongs. Two of 'em.

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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-investigates-skinny-dipper-in-foreign-country/632079/42 "2012-08-21T04:56:34Z")

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> [@sqweels](#):
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> Do you have a cite for an Israeli study showing how nude bathing can defile a lake?

Maybe he was insufficiently [del]circumcised[/del] circumspect.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-investigates-skinny-dipper-in-foreign-country/632079/43 "2012-08-21T05:10:27Z")

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Skinny dipping isn’t a problem. Taking gifts in the form of the trip is a big problem.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-investigates-skinny-dipper-in-foreign-country/632079/44 "2012-08-21T05:25:08Z")

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Skinny dipping isn’t a problem. Taking gifts in the form of the trip is a big problem.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-investigates-skinny-dipper-in-foreign-country/632079/45 "2012-08-21T07:18:18Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> But not in the Sea of Galilee! Or if they do, I hope no one drinks the (desalinated) water. And if there are fish, won’t someone think of them? :eek:

Desalinated? It’s freshwater. It’s called a “sea” because it’s big, not because it’s salty.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-investigates-skinny-dipper-in-foreign-country/632079/46 "2012-08-21T07:50:08Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> Desalinated? It’s freshwater. It’s called a “sea” because it’s big, not because it’s salty.

It’s also “big” purely on a local scale. If you dropped it in the middle of Upstate New York, they probably wouldn’t even bother to give it a name.

(Also, it’s an ancient Hebrew name, and ancient Hebrew had no word for “lake”).

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-investigates-skinny-dipper-in-foreign-country/632079/47 "2012-08-21T08:40:00Z")

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Well yeah, the Sea of Azov and the Adriatic are smaller than the Bay of St Lawrence… and at least those two are salty.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-investigates-skinny-dipper-in-foreign-country/632079/48 "2012-08-21T09:16:55Z")

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> [@Batfish](#):
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> Why? What’s sacriligious about a penis?

The Immaculate Conception was not done with a really clean penis.

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**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-investigates-skinny-dipper-in-foreign-country/632079/49 "2012-08-21T10:05:15Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> If you can sully the Sea of Galilee by skinny-dipping… well, let’s just say that I’ve done worse than just \*swim \*naked in it. And not at night, either.

Is it really considered 'somehow holy as some people are stating here?

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-investigates-skinny-dipper-in-foreign-country/632079/50 "2012-08-21T10:11:53Z")

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> [@clairobscur](#):
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> Is it really considered 'somehow holy as some people are stating here?

No more than any other part of the country. It’s Christians who make a big deal about it. It’s a popular site and oft praised in prose and song, but not for religious reasons.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-investigates-skinny-dipper-in-foreign-country/632079/51 "2012-08-21T10:20:36Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> No more than any other part of the country. It’s Christians who make a big deal about it.

And it’s not like we consider it any holier than the rest of the “holy land”. Maybe there’s some christian church somewhere which has an injunction against farting while in Israel, but I’m reasonably sure that most don’t worry about that kind of detail. Any church so nitpicky, I expect they’d also have injunctions against being naked under your clothes.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-investigates-skinny-dipper-in-foreign-country/632079/52 "2012-08-21T11:48:41Z")

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_Put your hand in the hand of the man who stilled the water…  
Put your hand in the …_

…wait, that’s not your hand! Eurgh!

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-investigates-skinny-dipper-in-foreign-country/632079/53 "2012-08-21T12:22:23Z")

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> [@C3](#):
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> **Bouncer** wins the thread.
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> Apparently, the FBI wasn’t investigating the skinny dipping; it just happened to come up while they were investigating exactly w[here the funds for the trip came from](http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/fbi_probing_rep_michael_grimm_not_skinny-dipping.php?ref=fpnewsfeed).

Thanks. The original CNN article pinged both my “huh?” meter and my who-gives-a-shit-dar… guess it’s no surprise that the “skinny dipping” angle became the lead story.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-investigates-skinny-dipper-in-foreign-country/632079/54 "2012-08-21T12:44:12Z")

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Galilee is where the Republican god Christ did the water walking thing, thereby bringing any sacrilege to the water there under the US internal jurisdiction of the FBI. My cite is the FBI investigation.

(Well, if the truth be known, the Turnip has it in one.)

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-investigates-skinny-dipper-in-foreign-country/632079/55 "2012-08-21T13:21:02Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> The Immaculate Conception was not done with a really clean penis.

Actually the IC \*was \*done with a (circumcised) penis, St. Joachim’s. And yes, that was a bit of Catholic Doctrine pendantry 😉

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**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-investigates-skinny-dipper-in-foreign-country/632079/56 "2012-08-21T13:45:07Z")

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Everyone knows that even one pound of Congressman will poison an entire sea!

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-investigates-skinny-dipper-in-foreign-country/632079/57 "2012-08-21T13:49:53Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> No, but then again, my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ didn’t perform some incredible miracle at my local K Mart’s shoe aisle. If he did, it would be pretty crass of me to stroll down it with my dong hanging out.

Well, see, I think this is the problem with this religion - that somehow, naked bodies are sinful. Why would they be?

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-investigates-skinny-dipper-in-foreign-country/632079/58 "2012-08-21T14:53:33Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> Well, see, I think this is the problem with this religion - that somehow, naked bodies are sinful. Why would they be?

Because nekkid leads to fun, and fun is sinful. Don’t tell me that you think fun isn’t sinful!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-investigates-skinny-dipper-in-foreign-country/632079/59 "2012-08-21T14:55:43Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> Actually the IC \*was \*done with a (circumcised) penis, St. Joachim’s. And yes, that was a bit of Catholic Doctrine pendantry 😉

> [@](#):
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> …Joachim (“he whom YHWH has set up”…

Wiki, natch.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-investigates-skinny-dipper-in-foreign-country/632079/60 "2012-08-21T14:57:01Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> Well, see, I think this is the problem with this religion - that somehow, naked bodies are sinful. Why would they be?

But they aren’t, not per se. At least in the RCC, I can’t answer for other denominations; going naked used to be a common way of doing penance or as a discipline exercise.

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