# FBI is re-opening investigation into Clinton's email

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 28, 2016, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950 "2016-10-28T17:57:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/1 "2016-10-28T17:57:35Z")

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> **[The FBI is investigating new emails related to Hillary Clinton uncovered in...](https://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-re-opening-investigation-into-hillary-private-e-mail-server-2016-10)**
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> The FBI will reopen its investigation into Hillary Clinton's private email server, FBI Director James Comey wrote in a letter on Friday.

Seem like the FBI director should be more forthcoming regarding the details of the investigation, etc. Being this close to the election.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/2 "2016-10-28T17:58:52Z")

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Comey didn’t use the words “reopen” or “reopening” – that was Chaffetz. I would expect Comey to clarify shortly.

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**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/3 "2016-10-28T18:01:53Z")

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My hope is that they find no evidence of wrongdoing, and we can put this to bed for good. Then maybe the pubs will shut the fuck up about it.

I think it’s too close to election day, and the investigation will take too long, to have a serious effect on Hillary’s campaign. I hope I’m right.

My first thought was, “who did Trump pay off to make _this_ happen?”. Then I read that there were emails found that were “pertinent” to the investigation.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/4 "2016-10-28T18:02:32Z")

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The letter clearly states that investigators will be reviewing new emails connected to the prior investigation. That is “re-opening” in ordinary English. Does that word have some kind of technical definition in FBI investigations? If not, then I think that semantic battle is quite misguided.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/5 "2016-10-28T18:06:01Z")

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> [@Richard\_Parker](#):
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> The letter clearly states that investigators will be reviewing new emails connected to the prior investigation. That is “re-opening” in ordinary English. Does that word have some kind of technical definition in FBI investigations? If not, then I think that semantic battle is quite misguided.

Uh, can you explain where then that “Unrelated case” line comes from?, It seems that the FBI reporting that they are looking to see if there was confidential information that will affect someone else.

Nowhere does it mention that Clinton is the target again, just about the same moves made before to see if secrets were leaked and who was attempting to get it.

We should remember that the prior case was not really going to recommend to indict clinton, just looks like more of the same with the same with the same result.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/6 "2016-10-28T18:07:02Z")

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> [@Richard\_Parker](#):
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> The letter clearly states that investigators will be reviewing new emails connected to the prior investigation. That is “re-opening” in ordinary English. Does that word have some kind of technical definition in FBI investigations? If not, then I think that semantic battle is quite misguided.

Perhaps. In any case, Comey really needs to come out and explain what’s going on – if he says nothing more, then that’s just dropping a bomb 10 days before the election.

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/7 "2016-10-28T18:08:15Z")

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Every news outlet is reporting is as a “reopening.” Comey says they will “take appropriate investigative steps designed to allow investigators to review these emails…” And, “I cannot predict how long it will take us to complete this additional work…”

I’ll be shocked if anything significant drops before the election.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/8 "2016-10-28T18:08:35Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Uh, can you explain where then that “Unrelated case” line comes from?, It seems that the FBI reporting that they are looking to see if there was confidential information that will affect someone else.
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> Nowhere does it mention that Clinton is the target, just about the same moves made before to see if secrets were leaked and who was attempting to get it.

You think he’s just reporting that they’ve found something in an unrelated investigation and that they’re going to investigate it’s relevance to that unrelated investigation? That doesn’t make any sense. The only fair reading is that they are investigating it with respect to the Clinton investigation.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/9 "2016-10-28T18:10:03Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Perhaps. In any case, Comey really needs to come out and explain what’s going on – if he says nothing more, then that’s just dropping a bomb 10 days before the election.

I agree. Though I think any further explanation could well be worse for Clinton.

> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#):
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> I’ll be shocked if anything significant drops before the election.

Doesn’t really matter. If it’s just this and nothing more it could easily cost Clinton a point or so, which might be enough to matter in the Senate.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Uh, can you explain where then that “Unrelated case” line comes from?, It seems that the FBI reporting that they are looking to see if there was confidential information that will affect someone else.
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> Nowhere does it mention that Clinton is the target, just about the same moves made before to see if secrets were leaked and who was attempting to get it.

Wtf? The letter says they came across emails “in connection with an unrelated case” that “appear to be pertinent to the investigation.” Richard Parker is right; the semantics argument is silly.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/11 "2016-10-28T18:11:08Z")

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Is the consensus that she didn’t do anything illegal, or that she did but it’s not worth prosecuting?

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/12 "2016-10-28T18:11:44Z")

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The unrelated case is almost certainly Podesta’s emails, right?

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/13 "2016-10-28T18:13:06Z")

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This may end up being a big deal or may not, but there is such a lack of detail that it’s impossible to say at this time.

Unless I hear something a lot more specific in the next 24 hours, I’m voting tomorrow anyway.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/14 "2016-10-28T18:13:28Z")

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> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#):
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> The unrelated case is almost certainly Podesta’s emails, right?

NBC is reporting that it is unrelated to the hacked emails.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/15 "2016-10-28T18:15:04Z")

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Comey isnt playing politics with this - he dd not send a press release - he

“Comey said in a letter to eight congressional committee chairman that “recent developments” urged him to take another look.”

Its the ‘congressional comittee chairmen’ that are trying to influence the election with this - based on what little is in the news from the letter, this is SOP from the FBI wrt investigations the Congress folks may be aware of.

> **[Comey notified Congress of email probe despite DOJ concerns | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/28/politics/fbi-reviewing-new-emails-in-clinton-probe-director-tells-senate-judiciary-committee/index.html)**
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> Attorney General Loretta Lynch and Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates disagreed with FBI Director James Comey's decision to notify Congress about his bureau's review of emails potentially related to Hillary Clinton's personal server, law enforcement...

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Quatro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bc8723/32.png) [@Mr\_Quatro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Quatro)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/16 "2016-10-28T18:16:43Z")

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They don’t say what new emails have come to light, wiki-leeks or a private source or what they are.

If they are marked secret someone is in big trouble … who do you blame then Mrs Clinton?

Paul Ryan is making waves again:  
[http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-clinton-ryan-idUSKCN12S2BO](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-clinton-ryan-idUSKCN12S2BO)

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> U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Paul Ryan on Friday renewed his call for U.S. intelligence officials to stop giving Hillary Clinton classified briefing typically given to presidential candidates in the wake of FBI Director James Comey’s letter citing additional emails now under review.

> **[The Politics of Destruction](https://patriotpost.us/opinion/45375)**
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> Yesterday I referred to the "Anita Hills" coming out and making accusations against Donald Trump. Some readers replied that while they knew who she was, their children and grandchildren may not know. So, I think it is worth taking the time to remind...

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> Hillary has repeatedly claimed that her use of a private server was “allowed” by the State Department. It was not.
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> In fact, the State Department sent a memo to all employees under her signature warning against the use of private email accounts for official government business.
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> Judicial Watch asked Mrs. Clinton who “allowed” the use of her private server or advised her that is was okay. According to The Washington Times, Hillary “admitted under oath this week that she doesn’t recall asking anyone for permission.”

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Wtf? The letter says they came across emails “in connection with an unrelated case” that “appear to be pertinent to the investigation.” Richard Parker is right; the semantics argument is silly.

I do think the semantics coming from Comey are the silly ones, unless he is willing to say that Clinton is the target this matter should had been not reported this way, because taking into account what did took place in the previous investigation this does seem to follow just the same path, it is important to find who got a hold of the information and the intent of the ones mishandling the information.

And I do not see this but to end as, once again, a good investigation to prevent issues like that from happening in the future and a goose chase for the Republicans that will waste again a lot of time and money.

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/18 "2016-10-28T18:18:45Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> Is the consensus that she didn’t do anything illegal, or that she did but it’s not worth prosecuting?

I don’t know if it’s the concensus but at the time (at the press conference and hearings) Comey said that the mishandling,with the strictest reading of the law, could be considered illegal “no reasonable prosecutor would take this case” and that no one had been prosecuted before with this level of mishandling of information.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/19 "2016-10-28T18:19:32Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> Comey isnt playing politics with this - he dd not send a press release - he
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> “Comey said in a letter to eight congressional committee chairman that “recent developments” urged him to take another look.”
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> Its the ‘congressional comittee chairmen’ that are trying to influence the election with this - based on what little is in the news from the letter, this is SOP from the FBI wrt investigations the Congress folks may be aware of.

Based on that I may have to be less critical of Comey, it seems to then that it is basically a routine missive that has been grabbed by the Republicans and pumped up to be their talking point of the day,

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/20 "2016-10-28T18:23:45Z")

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> [@Mr\_Quatro](#):
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> If they are marked secret someone is in big trouble … who do you blame then Mrs Clinton?

I don’t know about you, but I’d blame the sender. If someone sends me classified emails, that’s on them, not me.

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