# FBI is re-opening investigation into Clinton's email **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 28, 2016, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950 "2016-10-28T17:57:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/181 "2016-10-29T02:31:04Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Clinton has nothing to lose by demanding more info since she knows none will be forthcoming. More info will be forthcoming. Comey just stepped into a shitstorm. He doesn’t have the remotely the juice required to sit silent. And that lead off on the Politico article has a touch of bullshit. Comey did not decide to appear before Congress. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/182 "2016-10-29T02:35:31Z")
> [@](#): > > Once again, I quote Trae Crowder, aka the Liberal Redneck: > > “Hillary could email Kim Jong-un my social security number and a picture of my wife’s titties, and I’d still vote for her over Donald Trump.” We peckerwoods are often too quick to dismiss our less advantaged cousins, the rednecks. But this is rather good, actually. B+ for effort. ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/183 "2016-10-29T02:37:54Z")
¡Ay, caramba! Comey’s letter couldn’t be any vaguer but it’s enough of a distraction to hurt Hillary. We need a new gropee or a wildly inappropriate tweet from the Orange One himself. Anything to change the headlines. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/184 "2016-10-29T02:38:29Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > More info will be forthcoming. Comey just stepped into a shitstorm. He doesn’t have the remotely the juice required to sit silent. > > And that lead off on the Politico article has a touch of bullshit. Comey did not decide to appear before Congress. 😕 I thought he was invited? [http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/07/06/fbis-comey-invited-to-testify-before-congress-on-clinton-probe/](http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/07/06/fbis-comey-invited-to-testify-before-congress-on-clinton-probe/) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/185 "2016-10-29T02:40:06Z")
I was invited to a bail hearing once. I decided to attend. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/186 "2016-10-29T02:47:11Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I was invited to a bail hearing once. I decided to attend. You jest but I do remember that Comey was also invited to testify in September about explaining his decision more… Who I’m kidding? It was really because the Republicans disliked what he had delivered before. Comey refused. His mistake was indeed to accept the first time. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/187 "2016-10-29T03:07:10Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Take out that picture ot your wife’s titties and we can compare with the one I have. :rolleyes: > > Amen. How long have you wanted me? > > Why stop now? Bwah ha. Good form, old bean. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/188 "2016-10-29T03:09:58Z")
Mark Cuban and others are saying Hillary wanted long emails printed. Huma used a laptop she shared with her husband. Read the forwarded email and printed. I do the same thing. I’ve never been able to absorb information from a long pdf or email. I always print if I need to study the information. If Mark is correct, then that would explain the emails on the laptop. Huma didn’t remember they were on it. Mark says he found this in the FBI report. Looks like a scan of a printed page. [https://mobile.twitter.com/mcuban/status/792150046212882432/photo/1](https://mobile.twitter.com/mcuban/status/792150046212882432/photo/1) Mark’s comments [https://mobile.twitter.com/mcuban/status/792097494175932416](https://mobile.twitter.com/mcuban/status/792097494175932416) ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/189 "2016-10-29T03:13:47Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > BREAKING: Hillary has an email problem. > Ya know, there’s a decent chance this is already baked in to people’s minds. Today, like yesterday, this race is between the qualified woman with a history of email problems VS. a wholly-unqualified man with a history of misogyny, race-baiting, sexual assault and shady business practices. Those that were against her will be like “See?! See?!” and those that are for her will be like “Nothing to see here” and the increasingly-shrinking populous on the fence very well may jump to Trump’s side. But it’s possible that at this point those people don’t matter as much as they think they do. > > It does change the media narrative for a while, which is why the Trump campaign and Republicans have been so giddy. But for better or worse, the narrative is largely driven by eyeballs and clicks, so the question is whether this topic is baked-in so much that people just aren’t interested enough to truly take the focus off Trump’s heinousness between now and Election Day. QFT. Cue Eff Tee. This story is old news by now and I doubt there’s a single undecided voter out there who would have voted Hillary except ermagerd more email scandal! It’s all the same scandal, it can’t happen again and no one really cares. The potential for classified information to have been compromised is a silly thing to fixate on. Were pilots retroactively punished post 9-11 for the times they flew with the cockpit door wide open? Because there could have been a hijacking! Dear God, there could have been thousands of hijackings! So let’s hassle pilots about it until the end of time… or let’s shut the friggin’ doors instead. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/190 "2016-10-29T03:29:28Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > More info will be forthcoming. Comey just stepped into a shitstorm. He doesn’t have the remotely the juice required to sit silent. > > And that lead off on the Politico article has a touch of bullshit. Comey did not decide to appear before Congress. It would be a uuuuuuuuge mistake for the FBI to release more info since there is no way they are going to be able to a decent analysis before the election. There are thousands of e-mails to look at and Comey is going to need to be extra cautious about releasing something that is incorrect. I don’t think the problem is so much that some HRC supporters will switch to Trump, but that this feeds into the anti-enthusiasm problem and folks just decide to opt out. Low voter turn-out favors Trump. With a 5+ point lead, HRC has a lot of margin. This is probably more of an issue for down ballot folks. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/191 "2016-10-29T03:33:44Z")
[Here’s what FiveThirtyEight has to say about it.](http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-the-fbi-is-back-this-time-with-anthony-weiner/) It points out how there are fewer undecideds left, and how this may mean that there is less of a problem. The one thing they do mention is the idea that it might get some Trump supporters riled up and increase their turnout. Also, reading it, it does seem to me that a lot of these other headlines were unfair. The attitude here does not at all match the attitude in the comments there. Oh, and apparently there are only 3 problematic emails out of the thousands. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/192 "2016-10-29T03:42:00Z")
Headline in the Detroit Free Press: New Clinton emails emerged from Weiner probe Man, that guy is just the gift that keeps on giving for headline writers. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/193 "2016-10-29T03:50:52Z")
Hillary Nailed by Weiner Probe. Clintons’s Huma Problem: Weiner. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/194 "2016-10-29T04:06:47Z")
The New York Times that had the Clintons for a target many times before: [http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/29/opinion/emails-again-this-time-with-anthony-weiner.html](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/29/opinion/emails-again-this-time-with-anthony-weiner.html) > [@](#): > > There is so far no indication that Mr. Comey’s missive means the F.B.I. is “reopening” its investigation into Mrs. Clinton, as hyperventilating Republicans, including Mr. Trump, are suggesting, nor is it an acknowledgment that the F.B.I. erred in its earlier efforts. It doesn’t mean that anybody within the F.B.I. is trying to influence the election, as some panicky Democrats are implying. But without more information, it’s impossible for voters to judge the significance of this discovery as they head to the polls. > [@](#): > > Her apparent effort to blunt scrutiny by means of that private server has only led to far more damaging scrutiny and suspicion, with no end in sight. > > But Mr. Comey’s failure to provide any specifics about a new, potentially important development, less than two weeks before Election Day, is confounding. As Mr. Comey put it in July, “The American people deserve those details in a case of intense public interest.” They deserve details even more urgently today. ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/195 "2016-10-29T04:15:45Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > The question also sometimes arises why dang furriners like me, a Canadian, are interested in US elections. One obvious answer is that it’s enormously entertaining. The other answer is hinted at by the following factoid I just happened to hear on the news: if Trump is elected and implements even a fraction of the trade policies he’s talking about, estimates are that it will cost Canada some 700,000 jobs, and given the bilateral benefits of NAFTA, the impacts will probably be equally bilateral, or worse. We will do fine under Trump. Those same 700 k jobs your talking about are just under as much risk from the TPP and carbon tax, and those that are under risk to move to Mexico and points further south. I expect that we will do just as well under Hillary. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/196 "2016-10-29T04:17:10Z")
LA Times: [The emails were not to or from Clinton, and contained information that appeared to be more of what agents had already uncovered… but in an abundance of caution, they felt they needed to further scrutinize them](http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-fbi-clinton-email-probe-20161028-story.html) ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/197 "2016-10-29T04:27:13Z")
> [@Declan](#): > > We will do fine under Trump. Those same 700 k jobs your talking about are just under as much risk from the TPP and carbon tax, and those that are under risk to move to Mexico and points further south. I expect that we will do just as well under Hillary. :dubious: > **[In charts: how a revenue neutral carbon tax creates jobs, grows the economy |...](https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2014/jun/13/how-revenue-neutral-carbon-tax-creates-jobs-grows-economy)** > > A new study from REMI finds that a revenue neutral carbon tax could create 2.8 million jobs, increase GDP by $1.3 trillion > [@](#): > > A new study from REMI finds that a revenue neutral carbon tax could create 2.8 million jobs, increase GDP by $1.3 trillion > [@](#): > > The main source of opposition to carbon pricing is the perception that it will ‘kill jobs’ or otherwise hurt the economy. However, economic forecasts have rarely been done for a carbon fee in which 100% the revenue is returned to the taxpayers. Under proposed revenue-neutral carbon tax legislation, about two-thirds of taxpayers are projected to receive more in refunds than they pay in higher energy prices. It’s a net financial gain for most people. This is a key factor that differentiates a revenue-neutral carbon tax system and its economic impacts from other carbon pricing systems. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/198 "2016-10-29T05:09:47Z")
The idea that Comey had the option of _not_ informing Congress is absurd. 1. As bad as it is to be announcing the investigation 11 days prior to the election, it would be worse to hold off until after it. You want to imagine the shitshow that would come of announcing in December that there was a second, secret investigation? What if it leads to charges? 2. More practically, there was no way this wouldn’t leak out prior to the election. Either Comey tells Congress today, or sources in the FBI would be telling the media next week, and it would look like he was covering up for her (which he pretty much would be). If anything, he did Hillary a favor by getting it out officially and ASAP. The rational criticism of Comey would be to wonder why the prior investigation was leaving stones unturned: i.e. why didn’t they search Abedin’s computer six months ago? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/199 "2016-10-29T05:25:30Z")
Trump has already declared her 100% guilty of high crimes, misdemeanors, treason, treachery and skulduggery. The facts as we know them do not support any level of certainty. Therein lies the potential problem: Il Douche does not deal well with contradiction. Speaker Ryan has made the jump with him, by demanding that classified briefings be withheld from her, regardless of any potential Presidential status. Thereby declaring her guilty, just as Trump did. Trump expects the FBI to bear him out, and he expects Congressional Republicans to line up behind him, lockstep. But Comey’s letter is not even really an indictment, much less a verdict. And anybody who can read will know that. If Comey really is the paragon of integrity that his legend says, he will be compelled to point this out. (If he is a partisan whore, he faces no such dilemma.) Trump demands condemnation, Clinton demands clarification, and he’s gonna have to say something. He just repeats what he has already said, he will be sticking his thumb in Trump’s eye. Of course, Trump may just graciously accept this rebuke, and move on. And you and I are _both_ the Queen of Romania! ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/200 "2016-10-29T05:25:37Z")
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