# FBI is re-opening investigation into Clinton's email **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 28, 2016, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950 "2016-10-28T17:57:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 29
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/561 "2016-10-31T20:46:05Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > To lend my voice to the chorus, I totally agree. A few years ago I got a two year long contract in with a big business doing a huge project, and I didn’t understand the level of emailing that came along with the corporate world. I probably got 25 a day, my boss got a 150, and her boss was a scythe chopping through emails like stalks of grain. > > If you haven’t worked in a business where communication happens like that, you have no idea. It’s true that I don’t have a job where I’m inundated with emails, however I would have thought Hillary had people to weed through them and bring the pertinent ones to her attention. At any rate it’s clear that she saw some of those in question because of her claim that she misinterpreted the “C” designation as being a symbol indicating a paragraph break. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/562 "2016-10-31T20:48:43Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > It’s true that I don’t have a job where I’m inundated with emails, however I would have thought Hillary had people to weed through them and bring the pertinent ones to her attention. At any rate it’s clear that she saw some of those in question because of her claim that she misinterpreted the “C” designation as being a symbol indicating a paragraph break. IIRC, she wasn’t testifying that she remembered thinking that. She was asked about the email in the interview and that (or something like it) was her response upon seeing it. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/563 "2016-10-31T20:51:04Z")
> [@sleestak](#): > > Defend Clinton if you like, but don’t lie about what she did. > > Slee Tweet. Warning issued. Try not to do it again. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/564 "2016-10-31T20:52:42Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > IIRC, she wasn’t testifying that she remembered thinking that. She was asked about the email in the interview and that (or something like it) was her response upon seeing it. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/565 "2016-10-31T20:57:23Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > Pretty sure we agree that it was incredibly stupid and naive. As Sanchez put it, “[F]ortunately for all politicians—not every act of stupidity is a federal crime.” Yeah I’m pretty sure we’re aligned on this subject. I appreciate you backing me up earlier on the intent thing. It’s baffling how some people who are clearly following along would mock my straight up recount of what has been publicly discussed on the issue. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/566 "2016-10-31T21:06:55Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > To lend my voice to the chorus, I totally agree. A few years ago I got a two year long contract in with a big business doing a huge project, and I didn’t understand the level of emailing that came along with the corporate world. I probably got 25 a day, my boss got a 150, and her boss was a scythe chopping through emails like stalks of grain. > > If you haven’t worked in a business where communication happens like that, you have no idea. I’ve read that Huma’s laptop may have 650,000 emails on it. That’s literally more correspondence that any one human being could read in a lifetime, even excluding Carlos Danger’s dick pics. But if even one of those 650,000 emails has a (c) in the body, the right wing will go apoplectic. Poor Huma. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/567 "2016-10-31T21:11:45Z")
[FBI director James Comey argued against naming Russia as the agent behind the DNC hacks, citing Election Day timing concerns](http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/31/fbis-comey-opposed-naming-russians-citing-election-timing-source.html). Comey was able to keep the FBI’s name off the October 7th release, but not the document being released, as was his original goal. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/568 "2016-10-31T21:27:06Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > I’ve read that Huma’s laptop may have 650,000 emails on it. **That’s literally more correspondence that any one human being could read in a lifetime** , even excluding Carlos Danger’s dick pics. > > But if even one of those 650,000 emails has a (c) in the body, the right wing will go apoplectic. Poor Huma. Actually, you could. Starting at age 5 and reading for 70 years, you only need to read roughly 25.5 emails per day. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/569 "2016-10-31T21:27:46Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > I’ve read that Huma’s laptop may have 650,000 emails on it. That’s literally more correspondence that any one human being could read in a lifetime, even excluding Carlos Danger’s dick pics. > > But if even one of those 650,000 emails has a (c) in the body, the right wing will go apoplectic. Poor Huma. Yeah, but only 649,000 are dick pics. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/570 "2016-10-31T21:29:04Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > I’ve read that Huma’s laptop may have 650,000 emails on it. That’s literally more correspondence that any one human being could read in a lifetime, even excluding Carlos Danger’s dick pics. > > But if even one of those 650,000 emails has a (c) in the body, the right wing will go apoplectic. Poor Huma. If it’s her personal email account, many of those emails may have nothing to do with work. Many of us have Outlook or Thunderbird as our local email clients and we get emails from many different sources-businesses, friends, family, work, etc. All those emails are saved. Probably 500,000 of those emails are marketing/promotion/coupon emails from various websites she has bought something from. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/571 "2016-10-31T21:35:07Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > [FBI director James Comey argued against naming Russia as the agent behind the DNC hacks, citing Election Day timing concerns](http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/31/fbis-comey-opposed-naming-russians-citing-election-timing-source.html). Comey was able to keep the FBI’s name off the October 7th release, but not the document being released, as was his original goal. Serious question; Given this, and the timing of his latest torpedoing of the Clinton campaign (which has been roundly criticized by Republican leaders)… Is it at all within the realm of possibility that Comey has been compromised by Russian intelligence? Is he being blackmailed? ---
**Author:** ![Common\_Tater](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/common_tater/32/13846_2.png) [@Common\_Tater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Common_Tater)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/572 "2016-10-31T21:49:30Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > It’s almost as if these things haven’t been explained hundreds of times already. > > 1. The deleted emails were personal emails which she was not required to provide under FOIA. For example, I just deleted the email notifying me that there had been an update to this thread. Oh noes! > > 2. The (c) is required to be in the header of the email. For the emails she received, it was not in the header of the email, it was buried in the body of the email where it was easy to overlook or misinterpret. She _claims_ they were personal emails, but if they were under subpeona by congress she shouldn’t delete them, and we’d know for sure. Personal, non governmental business should not really be mixed in with official government business and, the reverse is also true, as a lot of people are finding out. And it needs to be pointed out, the secure, compartmentalized, top secret data and satellite imagery is not in the cloud, and does not (till Clinton, apparently) travel through Yahoo! or Hotmail e-mail. So in order to receive an email over an unsecured network, _somebody_ had to physically remove it from the state department computers, print it off, photograph it, etc, and strip off the headers and then email it over unsecured networks. It is not physically or technically possible to directly email classified data from a secure computer system to these commercial accounts. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/573 "2016-10-31T21:50:02Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Serious question; > > Given this, and the timing of his latest torpedoing of the Clinton campaign (which has been roundly criticized by Republican leaders)… > > Is it at all within the realm of possibility that Comey has been compromised by Russian intelligence? Is he being blackmailed? Jesus christ. Please tell me you’re kidding. ---
**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_wuzzy)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/574 "2016-10-31T21:57:35Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > The Brazile thing is nothing. “At a rally in Flint, a woman will ask you about lead poisoning.” Well, _duh!_ In terms of this years Presidential election the Brazile leaks are marginal at best. In terms of the medium to long-term internal politics of the Democratic Party they will be anything but marginal. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/575 "2016-10-31T22:07:39Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Jesus christ. Please tell me you’re kidding. Well, people are talking about it. And I’m Just Asking Questions. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/576 "2016-10-31T22:07:51Z")
> [@Common\_Tater](#): > > … in order to receive an email over an unsecured network, _somebody_ had to physically remove it from the state department computers, print it off, photograph it, etc, and strip off the headers and then email it over unsecured networks. > > It is not physically or technically possible to directly email classified data from a secure computer system to these commercial accounts. If its that big a problem, why would she go to all that trouble? ---
**Author:** ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/577 "2016-10-31T22:08:44Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > Let me just point out the irony in someone who throws around the word “lie” the way **Slee** does getting basic facts wrong. And no one called anything s/he said a lie! Imagine that! You posted something that is factually untrue. You said: > [@](#): > > 1. The deleted emails were personal emails which she was not required to provide under FOIA. For example, I just deleted the email notifying me that there had been an update to this thread. Oh noes!. The deleted emails were work related and should have been captured and subject to FOIA. Sez the FBI: > [@](#): > > The FBI also \*\*discovered several thousand work-related e-mails **that were not in the group of 30,000 that were returned by Secretary Clinton to State in 2014. We found those additional e-mails in a variety of ways.** Some had been deleted over the years \*\*and we found traces of them on devices that supported or were connected to the private e-mail domain. Do you believe the FBI is lying when it states that it found thousands of deleted emails that were work related? The emails deleted by her lawyers were deleted at Clintons behest. That makes it her responsibility. Additionally, Clinton DID delete emails. From the FBI report: > [@](#): > > \*\*Secretary Clinton periodically deleted e-mails \*\*or e-mails were purged from the system when devices were changed. [Link](https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/statement-by-fbi-director-james-b-comey-on-the-investigation-of-secretary-hillary-clinton2019s-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system). Yet again, those emails should have been captured. Since Clinton was using an insecure private server, they were not captured as they should have been. According to the FBI, it is likely emails deleted by Clinton (or her team at her direction) that should be available are gone forever: > [@](#): > > It is also likely that there are other work-related e-mails that they did not produce to State and that we did not find elsewhere, and that are now gone because they deleted all e-mails they did not return to State, and the lawyers cleaned their devices in such a way as to preclude complete forensic recovery. [Link](https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/statement-by-fbi-director-james-b-comey-on-the-investigation-of-secretary-hillary-clinton2019s-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system) The basic facts are in the FBI report.[Read it.](https://static01.nyt.com/packages/pdf/politics/hillaryclintonfbi.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/578 "2016-10-31T22:10:23Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Well, people are talking about it. And I’m Just Asking Questions. And its totally true! People are definitely talking! Now, I’m gonna post ten pages from the comments section of _Democratic Underground_, and act like I’ve cited something. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/579 "2016-10-31T22:11:12Z")
> [@Common\_Tater](#): > > She _claims_ they were personal emails, but if they were under subpeona by congress she shouldn’t delete them, and we’d know for sure. Personal, non governmental business should not really be mixed in with official government business and, the reverse is also true, as a lot of people are finding out. > > And it needs to be pointed out, the secure, compartmentalized, top secret data and satellite imagery is not in the cloud, and does not (till Clinton, apparently) travel through Yahoo! or Hotmail e-mail. > > So in order to receive an email over an unsecured network, _somebody_ had to physically remove it from the state department computers, print it off, photograph it, etc, and strip off the headers and then email it over unsecured networks. > > It is not physically or technically possible to directly email classified data from a secure computer system to these commercial accounts. Are you or are you not going to tell us about the “numerous” people jailed for less? ---
**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_wuzzy)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/580 "2016-10-31T22:20:59Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Jesus christ. Please tell me you’re kidding. I also have heard the theory that Comey is Russian intelligence. Some people are talking about it. They say Comey’s a spy. That’s what I heard. They say that. It’s true. Look it up. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950.md?page=28) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950.md?page=30)