# FBI is re-opening investigation into Clinton's email

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 28, 2016, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950 "2016-10-28T17:57:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mr\_Quatro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bc8723/32.png) [@Mr\_Quatro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Quatro)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/581 "2016-10-31T22:37:42Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> MORE: @KarlRove says FBI Director James Comey was “wrong in July and was wrong on Friday.”

Karl Rove was wrong for two (2) presidents

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/582 "2016-10-31T22:46:11Z")

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> [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](#):
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> I also have heard the theory that Comey is Russian intelligence. Some people are talking about it. They say Comey’s a spy. That’s what I heard. They say that. It’s true. Look it up.

Your clear implication here is that Euphonious Polemic is just as ridicous as Trump. Is that what you meant to say?

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/583 "2016-10-31T22:54:00Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Are you or are you not going to tell us about the “numerous” people jailed for less?

Name three.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Quatro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bc8723/32.png) [@Mr\_Quatro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Quatro)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/584 "2016-10-31T22:57:13Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> After reading of Donna Brazille’s being outed yet again for feeding Clinton debate questions in advance the similarity between the Clintons and [Pigpen](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/7e/56/0a/7e560a7eaa50fd8aee9012f2ae11998b.jpg) of the _Peanuts_ cartoon strip occurred to me - always surrounded by a cloud of dirt.

Donna Brazile? I remember her on every channel during the last eight (8) years expressing her views. A very nice and well respected lady, but after she became the head of the DNC I haven’t seen her even once.

Donna Brazile  
Chair of the Democratic National Committee  
Acting  
Incumbent  
Assumed office  
July 28, 2016

Very important name to remember in the next few weeks … Donna Brazile 😉

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**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/585 "2016-10-31T23:08:56Z")

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> [@Common\_Tater](#):
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> She _claims_ they were personal emails, but if they were under subpeona by congress she shouldn’t delete them, and we’d know for sure. Personal, non governmental business should not really be mixed in with official government business and, the reverse is also true, as a lot of people are finding out.

People use governmental email accounts for all sorts of not strictly work related content, many of which are allowed if for a limited purpose and not done excessively, such as talking about where and what to have for lunch, work and employee parties and social functions, holiday and vacation issues, when an employee is having a baby or is sick, etc.

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**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_wuzzy)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/586 "2016-10-31T23:46:55Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Your clear implication here is that Euphonious Polemic is just as ridicous as Trump. Is that what you meant to say?

Sorry, just a bit of fun on my part.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/587 "2016-11-01T00:42:38Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> Clinton didn’t personally delete any emails; she hired a law firm to review the emails, delete the personal ones, and provide the work-related ones to the State department. The law firm didn’t do the best job of identifying the relevant emails, but that’s not on Clinton, that’s on the law firm. They should have done the job she hired them to do.

Of course it’s on Clinton. She can’t outsource her FOIA violations and then pretend they’re not FOIA violations.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/588 "2016-11-01T01:18:04Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> Of course it’s on Clinton. She can’t outsource her FOIA violations and then pretend they’re not FOIA violations.

OK, I’ve seen this a few times. What the fuck does the FOIA have to do with an FBI investigation? I mean surely no one thinks the FBI has to apply an FOIA request to see anything, right? Are people just jumbling up random accusations or what?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/589 "2016-11-01T01:19:11Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> OK, I’ve seen this a few times. What the fuck does the FOIA have to do with an FBI investigation? I mean surely no one thinks the FBI has to apply an FOIA request to see anything, right? Are people just jumbling up random accusations or what?

Throwing spaghetti at the wall to see if anything sticks.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/590 "2016-11-01T01:26:19Z")

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The idea is that she used the private server in the first place to avoid FOIA.

That was my original thought too, though in truth it doesn’t hold much water. The existence of the server was easy to discover, and it wouldn’t be exempt from FOIA. Maybe the Clintons would have more control over the server than some random State Department server, but even that is a little speculative. Either way, to control the response to a FOIA request, they would have had to instruct some employee not to comply–which is pretty risky. So in the end I’m not sure the FOIA theory holds much water.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/591 "2016-11-01T01:36:07Z")

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> [@Richard\_Parker](#):
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> The idea is that she used the private server in the first place to avoid FOIA.
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> That was my original thought too, though in truth it doesn’t hold much water. The existence of the server was easy to discover, and it wouldn’t be exempt from FOIA. Maybe the Clintons would have more control over the server than some random State Department server, but even that is a little speculative. Either way, to control the response to a FOIA request, they would have had to instruct some employee not to comply–which is pretty risky. So in the end I’m not sure the FOIA theory holds much water.

Oh, I can see all this but it is a jumbling of accusations. She hired lawyers to filter out her personal emails so she could turn over only work email when the government requested them turned over. It has nothing to do with FOIA requests. Sure, maybe that’s why she used it in the first place but it doesn’t fit with the current situation.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/592 "2016-11-01T01:45:05Z")

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But frankly, I don’t need people, especially Clinton supporters, to jump in. I’d love HurricaneDitka or one of the other people who’ve tossed it around to explain what they think they mean about these FOIA violations.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/593 "2016-11-01T03:02:21Z")

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They don’t want to overburden us with information.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/594 "2016-11-01T03:11:52Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> To lend my voice to the chorus, I totally agree. A few years ago I got a two year long contract in with a big business doing a huge project, and I didn’t understand the level of emailing that came along with the corporate world. I probably got 25 a day, my boss got a 150, and her boss was a scythe chopping through emails like stalks of grain.
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> If you haven’t worked in a business where communication happens like that, you have no idea.

Hell, I run a one-woman proofreading business via email with about a dozen clients; I also shop online and have contributed to some charities and political campaigns.

I get dozens of emails every frikkin day, easily up to a hundred or more. I skim, delete, skim, delete, follow up on relevant stuff, move long or short-term keepers to storage folders, and deep-six the chaff without reading it. I empty the Trash folder of several hundred emails roughly weekly.

I cannot imagine the volume of email that a Secretary of State would get. Well, I probably could if I tried but the prospect is just too depressingly overwhelming.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/595 "2016-11-01T06:17:17Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> Look, I think Comey should have said prosecute her back in July. But what he just did 11 days b4 the election is wrong & unfair to Hillary.

But not doing what he did would be unfair to Trump assuming he would have done the same thing (notify Congress) had it not been an election year.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/596 "2016-11-01T18:18:09Z")

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For those of you who pooh-pooh the possibility of the FBI, or people within, looking to sway the election, please note that a mere two hours ago, the FBI [released documents pertaining to (and announced this release) a closed 2005 investigation into Mark Rich and the Clinton Foundation](https://twitter.com/FBIRecordsVault/status/793482749025792000).

For no apparent reason, really. Just decided to do that. Surely this, too, won’t be construed as trying to sway the election - they’re just keeping Congress informed, that’s all! 🙂

The American public is demanding information on Mark Rich. We need to see it. Don’t worry about all that Russian stuff. We need Mark Rich.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/597 "2016-11-01T18:20:23Z")

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The FBI is a bunch of very whimsical people. They get a funny notion, and they run with it.

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/598 "2016-11-01T18:22:34Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> The FBI is a bunch of very whimsical people. They get a funny notion, and they run with it.

It’s almost enough to make me miss J Edgar Hoover.

Almost.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/599 "2016-11-01T18:32:10Z")

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Upon further review, their Twitter account was silent for a whole year, then lit up on October 30th (Sunday) with a large document dump - including Hillary Clinton’s files, Patraeus’s files, and more. All these tweets were made @ 4am and strongly indicate an automated system (like Hootsuite).

Very bizarre.

[https://twitter.com/FBIRecordsVault](https://twitter.com/FBIRecordsVault)

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/600 "2016-11-01T18:33:29Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> For real. I wish I lived in your country, where politics was all reasonable and common sense was a universal birthright!
> 
> Er…what country is that, again?

Narnia?

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