# FBI is re-opening investigation into Clinton's email **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 28, 2016, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950 "2016-10-28T17:57:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 37
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/721 "2016-11-03T18:37:33Z")
Simply because someone is an attorney is no reason to presume them to be “trained obfuscators”. I know several lawyers who have devoted their careers to being champions of truth and justice. They’re easy enough to spot, they’ve got CostCutter haircuts, second hand cars, and one really good suit that they wear _nowhere_ but in court. And may the Godess bless them and hold them close to Her bounteous bosom all the days of their lives, amen! (Don’t worry, **Richard** , got yer back!) ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/722 "2016-11-03T18:41:53Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Simply because someone is an attorney is no reason to presume them to be “trained obfuscators”. True, it is however, a fairly safe bet. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/723 "2016-11-03T18:43:25Z")
I cut my hair at home. But I’ll be damned if I’m gonna spend $400 on clothes that I can’t wear to anything but court! ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/724 "2016-11-03T18:43:42Z")
The Guardian is reporting that bureau sources are calling the FBI Trumplandia, and that deep antipathy to Hillary Clinton exists within the bureau. > **['The FBI is Trumpland': anti-Clinton atmosphere spurred leaking, sources say](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/03/fbi-leaks-hillary-clinton-james-comey-donald-trump)** > > Highly unfavorable view of Hillary Clinton intensified after James Comey’s decision not to recommend an indictment over her use of a private email server > [@](#): > > Deep antipathy to Hillary Clinton exists within the FBI, multiple bureau sources have told the Guardian, spurring a rapid series of leaks damaging to her campaign just days before the election. > > Current and former FBI officials, none of whom were willing or cleared to speak on the record, have described a chaotic internal climate that resulted from outrage over director James Comey’s July decision not to recommend an indictment over Clinton’s maintenance of a private email server on which classified information transited. > … > The currently serving FBI agent said Clinton is “the antichrist personified to a large swath of FBI personnel,” and that “the reason why they’re leaking is they’re pro-Trump.” > … > At the same time, other sources dispute the depth of support for Trump within the bureau, though they uniformly stated that Clinton is viewed highly unfavorably. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/725 "2016-11-03T18:50:09Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > I cut my hair at home. But I’ll be damned if I’m gonna spend $400 on clothes that I can’t wear to anything but court! _You_ cut your hair? You. Not someone with more acute sensibilities who also happens to smell better? ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/726 "2016-11-03T19:10:30Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > _You_ cut your hair? You. Not someone with more acute sensibilities who also happens to smell better? Me. Ain’t nobody got time for _both_ parents to be tied up in something as trivial as a haircut. * * * Back to the thread… Of course the FBI is Trumplandia. It’s like people have somehow internalized the Hollywood version of the FBI instead of the FBI that tried to get MLK to kill himself. The FBI remains full of right-wing reactionaries who think some environmentalist extremists burning down a ski lodge is more important than right-wing militia violence, and whose idea of anti-terror work is to infiltrate mosques and try to goad people into saying inflammatory things. We’ve come a long way, but you gotta remember where we started. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/727 "2016-11-03T19:17:15Z")
Aside: Remember _The Usual Suspects_? One of the supporting characters was a black FBI agent with a jazzy suit/hat combo and a goatee. I stared in amazement and wondered who the fuck wrote this scene? Still one needs to rise in defense of the FBI who crushed the Klan in Mississippi. Saw the documentary. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/728 "2016-11-03T19:29:36Z")
Did _not_ expect this! > **[Fox News' Judge Napolitano Blasts James Comey: FBI Had No Duty Or Right To...](https://crooksandliars.com/2016/11/fox-news-judge-napolitano-blasts-james)** > > Fox News' lead legal analyst Judge Napolitano is calling the FBI director, "J Edgar Comey" for injecting himself into the political process and creating a police state, instead of performing his job. **Fox News’ Judge Napolitano Blasts James Comey: FBI Had No Duty Or Right To Violate Due Process** Boy, _did_ he! Even I think “J. Edgar Comey” is a bit much. On Fox News. Nurse? Nurse? Time for my meds? No? OK, how about now? ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/729 "2016-11-03T19:44:23Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Did _not_ expect this! > [Fox News' Judge Napolitano Blasts James Comey: FBI Had No Duty Or Right To Violate Due Process | Crooks and Liars](http://crooksandliars.com/2016/11/fox-news-judge-napolitano-blasts-james) > **Fox News’ Judge Napolitano Blasts James Comey: FBI Had No Duty Or Right To Violate Due Process** > Boy, _did_ he! Even I think “J. Edgar Comey” is a bit much. > On Fox News. > Nurse? Nurse? Time for my meds? No? OK, how about now? Perhaps this is a sign that some at Fox News believe that Hillary will win, in spite of the attempt by many media folks to sell the “horse race” narrative. If they _do_ believe that, then they will be apprehensive about the precedent Comey has now set (for an openly-partisan FBI). Even if a lot of the current FBI employees are right-wingers, eight years of a Democrat running Justice could, conceivably, change that. And if it’s considered acceptable, in the post-Comey era, for the agency to be an arm of a political party…that could be bad for the right. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/730 "2016-11-03T21:22:49Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > Of course the FBI is Trumplandia… And of course, DoJ is Clintonville. > [@](#): > > [Employees of the Department of Justice, which investigated Clinton’s use of a private email server while she was secretary of State, gave Clinton 97 percent of their donations.](http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/302817-government-workers-shun-trump-give-big-money-to-clinton-campaign) Actually, AFIK, that 97% includes FBI. I don’t see them broken out seperately anywhere. Pretty much every episode of Law and Order ever has one of two scenes: the one where one cop says that they think suspect X did it but his supervisor says they need more evidence, or the other where ALL of the cops say suspect X did it, but the DA says they need more evidence. And the cop gets pissed and slams the door or whatever. In a political case like this, it’s pretty easy to imagine a cops/FBI being told by bosses or DAs “nope, need more evidence,” and everybody suspects it’s the _other_ guy being political. And odds are they’re both right. Ain’t the two-party system grand! ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/731 "2016-11-03T21:27:26Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > And if it’s considered acceptable, in the post-Comey era, for the agency to be an arm of a political party…that could be bad for the right. What do you think the IRS scandal was all about? > [@](#): > > From IRS employees, Clinton received 94 percent of donations. No possible way those employees would treat Republicans differently than Democrats, though! ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/732 "2016-11-03T21:29:51Z")
> [@furt](#): > > What do you think the IRS scandal was all about? E_xact_ly. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/733 "2016-11-03T21:51:47Z")
> [@furt](#): > > What do you think the IRS scandal was all about? Congressional Republicans ginning up a “scandal” to try to make the Obama administration look bad? ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/734 "2016-11-03T22:38:52Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Congressional Republicans ginning up a “scandal” to try to make the Obama administration look bad? But when have they ever done that? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/735 "2016-11-03T22:41:47Z")
Is it too late to convene an emergency Benghazi investigation? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/736 "2016-11-03T22:51:07Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > A whole lotta smoke with Hillary. There has been throughout her adult life. When she’s elected president, I do not expect it to subside or blow away. Based upon past experiences, I would expect it to continue, probably become thicker. > > I predict that it will become such a distraction to her administration, that she will not be re-elected in 2020. So what’s the source of the smoke, then? Do she and her staff hit the bong at night? Does she hang out with pyromaniacs? What “smoke” are you talking about? ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/737 "2016-11-03T22:55:16Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > I swear to god, there will come a time in America when the partisan bubbles are so completely walled off that the implications and references in our common language will cease to function effectively and we will speak entirely different dialects. There will be conservative English and everyone else and it will be nearly mutually unintelligible. Conservative English is _already_ unintelligible. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/738 "2016-11-03T22:56:37Z")
I think the right wing has accomplished its mission. They don’t have shit for evidence but the fact that we’re having the conversation about which entity is more politicized (the DoJ or the FBI) casts doubt on the entire system. If people lose faith in democratic institutions, then tend to view democracy as a failure and thus vote against its existence. Well done. I’m sure that the jihadists within the republican party have convinced themselves that this is for the greater good, that this is just what needs to be done to cleanse the country of the Clintons, the Obamas, Sanders, the progressives. They won’t let it get too far out of hand, and in due time, when the country regains its senses, they’ll take a step back and let a more deserving electorate make its “choice.” History suggests, however, when people start hijacking popular will, it rarely ends well. Ask Germany about that one. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/739 "2016-11-03T23:17:53Z")
[CBS just published](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-finds-emails-related-to-hillary-clintons-state-department-tenure/) this little tibidt: > [@](#): > > The FBI has found emails related to Hillary Clinton’s tenure as secretary of state on the laptop belonging to the estranged husband of Huma Abedin, Anthony Weiner, according to a U.S. official. > > These emails, CBS News’ Andres Triay reports, are **not duplicates of emails found on Secretary Clinton’s private server**. At this point, however, it remains to be seen whether these emails are significant to the FBI’s investigation into Clinton. It is also not known how many relevant emails there are. Also, the last paragraph kind of cracked me up after HRC went around telling everyone the initial investigation was just a “security inquiry” before Comey said (paraphrasing here) “I don’t know what that means, we do investigations here.” > [@](#): > > It is still unclear whether the FBI **inquiry** into the Clinton Foundation was a full-blown **investigation**. The current status of that \*\*inquiry \*\*is also unclear. However, no known charges have been filed related to the foundation. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/740 "2016-11-03T23:37:01Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > [CBS just published](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-finds-emails-related-to-hillary-clintons-state-department-tenure/) this little tibidt: > > Also, the last paragraph kind of cracked me up after HRC went around telling everyone the initial investigation was just a “security inquiry” before Comey said (paraphrasing here) “I don’t know what that means, we do investigations here.” Again, innuendo from anonymous “sources” whom we know nothing about. And we should take these leads seriously…why? It’s really sad to see this because most people - democrats and republicans - have regarded the FBI as a respectable agency. But it’s clear that someone or some people have gone full-on Frank Rizzo as of late. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950.md?page=36) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950.md?page=38)