# FBI is re-opening investigation into Clinton's email **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 28, 2016, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950 "2016-10-28T17:57:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/161 "2016-10-29T00:21:55Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Several people seem to have said this, but I don’t know where they got it. Certainly not from Comey’s letter. Is it really so hard for you guys to imagine that HRC sent an email, or lots of emails, from her private server to Huma and that when the FBI was digging through Huma and Anthony’s device, they found some email(s) from HRC? Perhaps some of the ones she declined to turn over because her lawyers deemed them “private”? I posted my cites for believing that this doesn’t relate to Clinton’s servers and that these emails were not originally withheld from the earlier investigation. Maybe my cites will be proved wrong in time, but for now, those Twitter posts are still up. > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Do you really need an example? I have no idea what’s in those emails, but it isn’t impossible that something could be really damaging to Hillary while not originating on her server. For example: No, that example’s no good. Comey is claiming that he doesn’t know if the new info will be significant or not. Your example is something that would obviously be significant. Ditto if this was an email that came from Hillary’s server, containing classified info, that was originally withheld. An email which contained actual example of Hillary acting in a way that contradicts Comey’s original assessment would be obviously significant. Whatever this is, Comey is claiming that he doesn’t know if it’s important for his previous investigation - he just for some reason wants to sing it from the mountain right damn now, before he’s even thought about it. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/162 "2016-10-29T00:25:29Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > As usual, it is more likely that you are wrong. > > [1) used to refer to an attitude in which someone adopts a negative attitude to something because they cannot have it themselves](https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=sour+grapes). Nice googling but what the heck do you think I wanted for myself and then adopted a negative attitude towards when I couldn’t? And “Having my way with this item”? I don’t even know what your talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/163 "2016-10-29T00:29:54Z")
From: Huma To: Hillary Subject: All of our MURDERS Hi, Hill. Did you want some of this blood while it’s still warm, or should I just go ahead and finish it all? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/164 "2016-10-29T00:34:33Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > From: Huma > To: Hillary > Subject: All of our MURDERS > > Hi, Hill. Did you want some of this blood while it’s still warm, or should I just go ahead and finish it all? Hmm, was it arterial or venous blood? That will make a big difference for voters like GIGObuster. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/165 "2016-10-29T00:39:51Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > Whatever this is, Comey is claiming that he doesn’t know if it’s important for his previous investigation - he just for some reason wants to sing it from the mountain right damn now, before he’s even thought about it. This item is where I do think a speculation is needed, based on many shenanigans of the past I do think that some Republicans did found about the issue with Weiner and demanded the letter that we got and then like in football they did catch the ball without looking and ran with it ignoring that it was deflated. 🙂 What I do think is that in reality the message from Comey was not **exactly** what the Republicans needed [but getting it wrong has not stoped the Republican politicians from saying howlers like that in the past.](http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/oct/17/donald-trump/donald-trumps-pants-fire-claim-large-scale-voter-f/) ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/166 "2016-10-29T00:41:31Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Nice googling but what the heck do you think I wanted for myself Being correct about “just being the BBC”. [Trump]Wrooong[T] And trying to ignore the “supplement” word from Comey among other things. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/167 "2016-10-29T00:47:08Z")
Are your quote marks meant to indicate that at some point I said something to the effect of “just the BBC”? Regardless, “sour grapes” still doesn’t make sense. Refusing to admit I’m wrong is simply not wanting something for myself. Just give it up already. Choose a new biting idiom to zing me with. ---
**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/168 "2016-10-29T00:56:27Z")
Jesus. Just fuck already, guys. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/169 "2016-10-29T01:00:57Z")
Ok, you were wrong: no need to make colorful idioms. 🙂 > [@CarnalK](#): > > BBC is not CBS, fyi. And CBS still doesn’t get a vote. [snip] Besides being a fast edit the original post of yours did imply that I did not quote or that I was not pointing at CBS too when I was talking about media outfits not swallowing the Republican spin, your “voting public” was added by you later, and was still wrong as you made it sound as if all voters will just accept the Republican spin only. As I pointed, the email issue is not going to affect much the Clinton voters that already were subjected to this issue when Clinton had it worse, for sure many Republicans will swallow the trash. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/170 "2016-10-29T01:03:33Z")
> [@Randolph](#): > > Jesus. Just fuck already, guys. Very very lonely guys often mistake antagonism for attraction. It’s an instinct they should try to repress in order to find happiness. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/171 "2016-10-29T01:14:31Z")
Any other race, I’d be schadenfreuding my ass of right now. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/172 "2016-10-29T01:28:14Z")
From Paul Callan, CNN legal analyst: > **[Callan: Time for FBI director Comey to go | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/28/opinions/fbi-director-comey-should-resign-opinion-callan/)** > > Legal analyst Paul Callan says that the FBI director, by foolishly making a public announcement that the agency is reviewing newly discovered emails related to Hillary Clinton’s personal server, has inserted himself yet again into the presidential... > [@](#): > > Donald Trump’s oft-repeated claim that the FBI’s investigation of “Crooked Hillary” and the presidential election itself were and are “rigged,” seems to have thrown FBI Director James Comey into a state of panic. In foolishly making a public announcement that the bureau is reviewing newly discovered emails related to Hillary Clinton’s personal server, he has inserted himself yet again into the presidential campaign. > > The FBI virtually never announces the commencement or termination of ongoing criminal investigations or the discovery of new evidence. Such inquiries are often conducted in relative secrecy, enabling a more efficient investigation. > > The FBI was now taking “appropriate investigative steps. … to assess their importance to our investigation.” What in the world does this mean? One thing it means is that this issue will move to front and center during the final days of the presidential campaign. > Voters must now be subjected to endless speculation in the press and explicit accusations from the Trump campaign and other Republican candidates that Hillary Clinton is a “criminal” aided and abetted by a rigged FBI and Justice Department. Comey’s “openness and transparency” will blow up in his face and further tarnish the FBI’s reputation. He has reinserted the bureau into the political process. > > The director probably feared that leaks would lead to speculation that a renewed Hillary investigation was underway. In trying to get ahead of criticism of the FBI for jumping to a conclusion too quickly and closing the original Hillary Clinton email investigation, he has only made matters worse and dropped a huge new issue into the presidential campaign, 11 days before the election. > [@](#): > > In defending the statement he made today, Comey might assert that he was attempting to clarify his prior Congressional testimony. But that elaboration on his testimony could legitimately have waited until the FBI completed its analysis of the new emails. He has been around long enough to understand that any new FBI statements regarding the email scandal during the final 11 days of the campaign had a high probability of improperly placing the Bureau into the political process. > Trashing the Justice and FBI rule books in the interest of “openness” is likely to put the FBI front and center in one of the most contentious presidential races in recent US history. J. Edgar Hoover loved to influence elections, but he had the good sense to keep quiet about it. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/173 "2016-10-29T01:28:31Z")
GIGObuster, we don’t know which of us is wrong. My point all along is that the general population is going to think this is a re-opening of the investigation. You point out that’s not technically true and I kind of assume you think the general population will agree and that technical difference makes a real difference. We’ll see over the next week who is right. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/174 "2016-10-29T01:35:07Z")
From: Huma Abedin To: Hillary Clinton Hil - Donald Trump raped me when I was 15. Should I go public with this now or wait until after the election? ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/175 "2016-10-29T01:54:42Z")
> [@duality72](#): > > One of the many dumb aspects of our classification system is that “everybody knows” still doesn’t stop something from being classified. You still aren’t supposed to talk about it outside of the classified process. I think **Crybaby Boobie** was actually talking about Weiner’s weiner. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/176 "2016-10-29T02:11:41Z")
Here is Politico’s take: [http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/hillary-clinton-fbi-james-comey-disclosure-prosecutors-230467](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/hillary-clinton-fbi-james-comey-disclosure-prosecutors-230467) > [@](#): > > James Comey’s surprise announcement that investigators are examining new evidence in the probe of Hillary Clinton’s email server put the FBI director back under a harsh spotlight, reigniting criticism of his unusual decision to discuss the high-profile case in front of the media and two congressional committees. > > Comey’s former colleagues said his public appearances last summer may have left the director feeling he had no choice but to let the public know when new information possibly relevant to the case arose — in this instance, according to a U.S. official, emails obtained during an investigation into allegations that former Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.) exchanged sexually explicit messages with an underage girl. > > Some former prosecutors and Justice Department officials said the stir caused by the letter Comey sent Congress Friday announcing the FBI was examining new evidence relevant to the Clinton probe underscored the risks he took when he parted with the usual practice by publicly defending and explaining the FBI’s work on the case, even though no charges were filed. > > “I got a lot of respect for Jim Comey, but I don’t understand this idea of dropping this bombshell which could be a big dud,” said former federal prosector Peter Zeidenberg, a veteran of politically sensitive investigations. “Doing it in the last week or 10 days of a presidential election without more information, I don’t think that he should because how does it inform a voter? It just invites speculation … I would question the timing of it. It’s not going to get done in a week.” > > Nick Akerman, a former assistant U.S. attorney in the Southern District of New York, was more critical: "Director Comey acted totally inappropriately. He had no business writing to Congress about supposed new emails that neither he nor anyone in the FBI has ever reviewed.” > > “It is not the function of the FBI director to be making public pronouncements about an investigation, never mind about an investigation based on evidence that he acknowledges may not be significant,” Akerman added. "The job of the FBI is simply to investigate and to provide the results of its investigation to the prosecutorial arm of the U.S. Department of Justice. His job is not to give a running commentary about any investigation or his opinion about any investigation. This is particularly egregious since Secretary Clinton has no way to respond to what amounts to nebulous and speculative innuendo.” Of course, they also do point at the ones supporting Comey, but there is not much clarification coming from him, others did report to Politico that maybe Comey did find something but I think it is not likely as that letter to congress would be different. > [@](#): > > One answer to the puzzling development could also lie in the way the Clinton email probe began: as a referral from intelligence agencies about a potential loss of classified information. > > If information likely to be classified was found on Weiner’s devices or in his accounts, possibly transferred from his wife, the FBI would have a duty to confirm its classification and explore whether the information was compromised. Comey may have decided that, despite the media and political attention, the most logical way to carry out that assessment was using the same agents and contacts developed in the Clinton email probe. So besides this _maybe_ pointing at something serious, we do not know who could be blamed here, it could also be not important at all, but also that there could be another mundane reason for the announcement, that the announcement was referring to the danger they saw of losing information that in the end could be mundane but that is not known yet as Comey himself reported. One item it makes me think that this is not a big deal is that Clinton has demanded this info to be released now, surprising Pence when he noticed that they are asking the same from Comey. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/177 "2016-10-29T02:17:19Z")
Clinton has nothing to lose by demanding more info since she knows none will be forthcoming. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/178 "2016-10-29T02:22:31Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Clinton has nothing to lose by demanding more info since she knows none will be forthcoming. Of course Pence and Trump are saying the same too, and they should know that too. I do think that this underlines why what Comey did was not proper IMO. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/179 "2016-10-29T02:24:15Z")
I can sorta buy Comey’s line about being obligated to report developments to Congress. Is there anything in his mandate that demands immediacy? Is Ms Clinton a flight risk, she might catch a rumor and bolt for North Korea? Is there a time bomb somewhere, ticking ever closer to zero? Did Comey have some info he hasn’t shared that compel such a timeline? If he had determined that, in light of his experience and insight, that it was very unlikely that these new e-mails were really pertinent, perhaps he should have stuffed a cork in it. But would that have worked, this is political golden dynamite for the Pubbies, how could he possibly ensure it wouldn’t leak to anxious and hungry ears? Or it could be just another example of the Lord of Darkness playing a bit of rat-fuck on behalf of his favorite political party. No, not Putin, the _original_ Lord of Darkness, ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950/180 "2016-10-29T02:29:56Z")
> [@DoctorJ](#): > > Once again, I quote Trae Crowder, aka the Liberal Redneck: > > “Hillary could email Kim Jong-un my social security number and a picture of my wife’s titties, and I’d still vote for her over Donald Trump.” > [@Randolph](#): > > Jesus. Just fuck already, guys. Take out that picture ot your wife’s titties and we can compare with the one I have. :rolleyes: > [@CarnalK](#): > > Very very lonely guys often mistake antagonism for attraction. It’s an instinct they should try to repress in order to find happiness. Amen. How long have you wanted me? > [@Bricker](#): > > Any other race, I’d be schadenfreuding my ass of right now. Why stop now? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-is-re-opening-investigation-into-clintons-email/769950.md?page=10)