# FBI not recommending charges against Clinton **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 5, 2016, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125 "2016-07-05T15:20:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/1 "2016-07-05T15:20:04Z")
On CNN just now. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/2 "2016-07-05T15:24:36Z")
What a surprise. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/3 "2016-07-05T15:25:38Z")
Yep. [Here’s a link to the story.](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-completes-investigation-hillary-clintons-personal-email-server/story?id=40346712) Should be some video there too. FBI Director James Comey - > [@](#): > > In looking back at our investigations into the mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/4 "2016-07-05T15:25:55Z")
Not a “great” announcement for Clinton: citations of “extremely careless” security and they found 110 emails (within 52 chains) containing some form of classified information but the Big Question of indictments is off the table. ---
**Author:** ![bobkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@bobkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobkitty)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/5 "2016-07-05T15:26:26Z")
Comey’s speech was excellent. The issue will never, ever die, just like Benghazi, but he did a great job of trying to cover all potential arguments that both supporters and detractors will bring up. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/6 "2016-07-05T15:28:30Z")
Comey said Clinton should have known better. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/7 "2016-07-05T15:28:49Z")
Big bullet dodged here. Clinton can now get on with the campaign. Trump will dwell on this until November and ignore the real issues. Win/win for Clinton. Great speech by the director too. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/8 "2016-07-05T15:29:42Z")
He said that “Our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case” ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/9 "2016-07-05T15:33:13Z")
That’s just great. Now when going to see 19 investigations over the next 8 years into security lapses, her dishonesty and how she put the entire nation in peril. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/10 "2016-07-05T15:34:57Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > He said that “Our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case” Remember, Lynch already said that they would follow the FBI recommendation as far as charges go. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/11 "2016-07-05T15:36:36Z")
> [@bengangmo](#): > > That’s just great. > Now when going to see 19 investigations over the next 8 years into security lapses, her dishonesty and how she put the entire nation in peril. Meh. If she wins the Hillary-haters on the right will find something to blather on about anyway. Whether it’s this, Bengahzi, Vince Foster or how she is a secret baby eating lesbian is pretty much irrelevant. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/12 "2016-07-05T15:37:57Z")
Ok Bernie, you can concede now. There’s no bolt from above now. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/13 "2016-07-05T15:40:47Z")
This was just a mole hill to start with. There was no reason to think this would have produced an indictment. She doesn’t come out unscathed though, it’s been clear from the beginning that using a private email server was a reckless disregard for the law and the security of the nation and done for her own personal ambitions. In most other presidential elections this would have been a disqualifying scandal. This year it’s indistinguishable from the noise. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/14 "2016-07-05T15:41:47Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > Meh. If she wins the Hillary-haters on the right will find something to blather on about anyway. Whether it’s this, Bengahzi, Vince Foster or how she is a secret baby eating lesbian is pretty much irrelevant. You forgot Satan worshipping. “Secret baby eating **Satan worshipping** lesbian.” ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/15 "2016-07-05T15:45:02Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > In most other presidential elections this would have been a disqualifying scandal. In most other elections it never would have been brought up unless that other candidate’s last name was also “Clinton”. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/16 "2016-07-05T15:46:23Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > In most other elections it never would have been brought up unless that other candidate’s last name was also “Clinton”. So Chelsea has _that_ to look forward to… ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/17 "2016-07-05T15:49:01Z")
I don’t think most neutral observers (and certainly most liberal observers) ever thought there would be an indictment. The facts, at least the ones that were revealed to the public, never supported it. The people still hoping were just hoping without any reason. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/18 "2016-07-05T15:49:10Z")
No meaningful amount of voters will be swayed by the pronouncements of carelessness. The haters will crow about it, and her supporters will ignore it. Business as usual, in other words. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/19 "2016-07-05T15:54:09Z")
This is the sort of event that leads me to visit [Breitbart.com](http://Breitbart.com) solely to enjoy the wailing and gnashing of teeth. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/20 "2016-07-05T15:54:54Z")
It’s a strange time we live in when the only thing that matters in a case like this is whether Hillary would be indicted or not. Not indicted does not equal innocent of all wrongdoing. Comey made it clear that Clinton used exceedingly bad judgement, and through her actions very likely exposed U.S. secrets to rival countries and perhaps even to enemies. She was warned about it, and did nothing. The FBI could not touch on her possible motivations for doing this, but that’s an open political question that should be judged at the polls. The very likely reason is that she’s paranoid and didn’t want her own communication subject to FOIA requests without her ability to censor it first. She may not be going to jail, but her behavior throughout this should make her unfit to be President. The thing she’s got going for her is that Trump’s behavior on damned near everything makes him unfit to be president. So yay! America gets to pick between two unpopular people who are not fit to lead them. Go team. But don’t think the Republicans are going to roll over on this. Yesterday, [Huma Abadin admitted](http://nypost.com/2016/07/04/huma-abedin-admits-that-clinton-burned-daily-schedules/) that some of Hillary’s schedules went into a ‘burn bag’ and were destroyed. > [@](#): > > Clinton has admitted to destroying “private personal emails” as secretary of state. But Abedin’s admission that she used so-called “burn bags” — a container that material is placed in before it is destroyed — for some of her schedules is the first time anyone close to her has disclosed destroying public records. > > The exact circumstances surrounding those destroyed records will likely come under intense scrutiny, critics said. > > A former State Department official told The Post it was unprecedented for a diplomat to destroy a schedule like this. Just part off a pattern of Nixonian-level paranoia, which she didn’t unfortunately extend to American’s actual enemies and rivals - just her own rivals in politics. If a Republican had done all this, the left would be spitting nails. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125.md?page=2)