# FBI not recommending charges against Clinton **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 5, 2016, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125 "2016-07-05T15:20:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disgruntled_Penguin)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/221 "2016-07-06T18:55:45Z")
> [@Iggy](#): > > \ 110 out of 30,000 is 0.367%. **Disgruntled Penguin** ’s calculation put the decimal point in the wrong spot. Which puts the actual number in Clinton’s case in the range of **iiandyiiii** ’s estimate. > \ Alas, no, the calculation was done by calculator and was correct. The disconnect was caused when trying to convert it into a percentage. This was a brain fart that reflects on me not on the calculator. This one was on me and I know better. You are correct that the number is in line with the **iiandandyiii** ’s estimate not lower. ---
**Author:** ![drewder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/57b2e6/32.png) [@drewder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewder)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/222 "2016-07-07T21:57:37Z")
After studying the FBI’s response I think their view is either she’s an evil genius or the dumbest person ever to hold high office and they couldn’t find any evidence of genius… so win for the Clintons? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/223 "2016-07-07T22:08:52Z")
> [@drewder](#): > > After studying the FBI’s response I think their view is either she’s an evil genius or the dumbest person ever to hold high office and they couldn’t find any evidence of genius… so win for the Clintons? By the reaction shown by the Repubicans, it is clear that it was a win. It should not had been but the Republicans can not help but to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/224 "2016-07-07T23:20:05Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > But when stuff sticks, it sticks for a reason. It’s very rare that a politician is damaged by a scandal that isn’t legit. Can you back this up? (I’d think the fact that there’s a verb “swiftboating” would clue you in…) There’s a difference between posting things that you’ve researched and found to be true, and typing platitudes that pop into your head that you WISH were true. You’ve done so well lately, but every once in a while… ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/225 "2016-07-08T02:03:41Z")
> **[Classified Data Found in Personal Email of Colin Powell and Aides to...](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/05/us/politics/state-dept-classified-data-found-ex-secretaries-personal-email-john-kerry-condeleezza-rice-colin-powell.html?_r=1)** > > The emails were upgraded to confidential or secret status as part of a review process that resulted in similar actions on email sent to Hillary Clinton. [http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/trey-gowdy-caught-using-his-own-private-email-server/22908/](http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/trey-gowdy-caught-using-his-own-private-email-server/22908/) _For months, republican Benghazi committee chairman Trey Gowdy has been playing up the fact that Hillary Clinton used her own private email server for conducting official government business. That’s set off a firestorm which has forced four separate government agencies to step in and defend her against a wide range of false accusations. Now it turns out Gowdy himself has been running his own congressional email through a private server of his own…Although three Secretaries of State in a row from two different political parties each opted to have their own email server installed at the State Department in order to bypass the inept official server, republicans have attempted to single out Hillary Clinton for doing so. Trey Gowdy has used his position as head of the Benghazi committee to pore over thousands of her emails, public and private. Gowdy spent much of her testimony this week publicly misstating what was in some of those emails, forcing Clinton to correct him in front of the cameras. But not only has Clinton emerged from the now-debunked scandal unscathed, Gowdy’s own private email server has come into focus._ ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/226 "2016-07-08T02:09:06Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > But when stuff sticks, it sticks for a reason. It’s very rare that a politician is damaged by a scandal that isn’t legit. Politicians escape blame for real scandals far more often than they receive blame for fake ones. Lyndon Johnson: _“I don’t care whether the bastard did it. I just want him to deny it.”_ But yes, it sticks for a reason: you and others doing what Karl Rove and the bosses of the GOP want you to: constantly stirring it up. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/227 "2016-07-08T02:33:04Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > [http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/05/us/politics/state-dept-classified-data-found-ex-secretaries-personal-email-john-kerry-condeleezza-rice-colin-powell.html?\_r=1](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/05/us/politics/state-dept-classified-data-found-ex-secretaries-personal-email-john-kerry-condeleezza-rice-colin-powell.html?_r=1) > > [http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/trey-gowdy-caught-using-his-own-private-email-server/22908/](http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/trey-gowdy-caught-using-his-own-private-email-server/22908/) Trey Gowdy can not be in any of those “most punchable face” lists, because he looks as if someone has already done so. ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/228 "2016-07-08T02:43:06Z")
Why do I get that feeling that, if HRC set fire to a orphanage, the SDMB apologists would dismiss her actions? ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/229 "2016-07-08T02:44:59Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > There’s no doubt that a lot of the attacks used on Clinton are baloney. That’s true of every politician. There has not been a high profile politician in our history who has not had really weird accusations thrown at them, from McCain starting the Forrestal fire to Obama being a gay Muslim to John Kerry faking his medals. > > But when stuff sticks, it sticks for a reason. It’s very rare that a politician is damaged by a scandal that isn’t legit. Politicians escape blame for real scandals far more often than they receive blame for fake ones. That’s utter nonsense. The RW media does little but churn out lies and ignorant misinformation against its political opponents. Of course it sticks, that’s the whole point. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/230 "2016-07-08T02:48:18Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > Why do I get that feeling that, if HRC set fire to a orphanage, the SDMB apologists would dismiss her actions? Because you think she’s evil, and presume that anyone who supports her must be ignoring her evil actions? ---
**Author:** ![Chihuahua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dec6dc/32.png) [@Chihuahua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chihuahua)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/231 "2016-07-08T02:48:42Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > Why do I get that feeling that, if HRC set fire to a orphanage, the SDMB apologists would dismiss her actions? Because Dopers tend to be kind of people who make judgments based on _facts_ and _evidence_ rather than speculation and conspiracy theories. ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/232 "2016-07-08T02:52:44Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > [http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/05/us/politics/state-dept-classified-data-found-ex-secretaries-personal-email-john-kerry-condeleezza-rice-colin-powell.html?\_r=1](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/05/us/politics/state-dept-classified-data-found-ex-secretaries-personal-email-john-kerry-condeleezza-rice-colin-powell.html?_r=1) > > [http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/trey-gowdy-caught-using-his-own-private-email-server/22908/](http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/trey-gowdy-caught-using-his-own-private-email-server/22908/) > _For months, republican Benghazi committee chairman Trey Gowdy has been playing up the fact that Hillary Clinton used her own private email server for conducting official government business. That’s set off a firestorm which has forced four separate government agencies to step in and defend her against a wide range of false accusations._\* Now it turns out Gowdy himself has been running his own congressional email through a private server of his own…\*_Although three Secretaries of State in a row from two different political parties each opted to have their own email server installed at the State Department in order to bypass the inept official server, republicans have attempted to single out Hillary Clinton for doing so. Trey Gowdy has used his position as head of the Benghazi committee to pore over thousands of her emails, public and private. Gowdy spent much of her testimony this week publicly misstating what was in some of those emails, forcing Clinton to correct him in front of the cameras. But not only has Clinton emerged from the now-debunked scandal unscathed, Gowdy’s own private email server has come into focus._ You’ve got to be fucking kidding me… there is no way this can be true, you have to be making it up… ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/233 "2016-07-08T02:55:33Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > Why do I get that feeling that, if HRC set fire to a orphanage, the SDMB apologists would dismiss her actions? Since there are virtually no orphanages, but foster care, I would suspect that the Republicans made one up to set up a fire and blame her. But in any case, I’m on the record of saying that what she did was foolish and I have to take her apology into account and now the fact that no criminal intent was found. **Real orphans though will have to fear Trump and henchmen** : [http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/260542-obama-gop-refugee-opponents-scared-of-widows-and-orphans](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/260542-obama-gop-refugee-opponents-scared-of-widows-and-orphans) ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/234 "2016-07-08T03:00:44Z")
Who feels comfortable letting Clinton handle executive level intelligence, where she’s sure to get more of it and it’s sure to be more sensitive? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/235 "2016-07-08T03:00:52Z")
> [@](#): > > …Real orphans though will have to fear Trump and henchmen… Vertical integration. Trump Orphanage, Trump Juvenile Detention, Trump Penitentiary. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/236 "2016-07-08T03:02:27Z")
> [@Mince](#): > > Who feels comfortable letting Clinton handle executive level intelligence, where she’s sure to get more of it and it’s sure to be more sensitive? Raises hand. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/237 "2016-07-08T03:04:08Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Since there are virtually no orphanages, but foster care, I would suspect that the Republicans made one up to set up a fire and blame her. > > But in any case, I’m on the record of saying that what she did was foolish and I have to take her apology into account and now the fact that no criminal intent was found. > > **Real orphans though will have to fear Trump and henchmen** : > > [http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/260542-obama-gop-refugee-opponents-scared-of-widows-and-orphans](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/260542-obama-gop-refugee-opponents-scared-of-widows-and-orphans) You can be killed by an orphan that’s been thrown off a 40 foot wall. AKA The Orange Monster. ---
**Author:** ![Chihuahua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dec6dc/32.png) [@Chihuahua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chihuahua)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/238 "2016-07-08T03:06:00Z")
> [@Mince](#): > > Who feels comfortable letting Clinton handle executive level intelligence, where she’s sure to get more of it and it’s sure to be more sensitive? You say that as though being \*Secretary of State \*is some kind of tee-ball league. ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/239 "2016-07-08T03:06:20Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Raises hand. You from China? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125/240 "2016-07-08T03:08:30Z")
> [@Mince](#): > > Who feels comfortable letting Clinton handle executive level intelligence, where she’s sure to get more of it and it’s sure to be more sensitive? Well, Comey is one. And the fact that many will keep eyes on her in the opposition makes her very unlikely to have the same issue again. > **[FBI investigation undermines Clinton email defense](https://www.politifact.com/article/2016/jul/05/fbi-investigation-undermines-clinton-email-defense/)** > > FBI investigators announced July 5 that Hillary Clinton sent or received more than 100 emails over a private server whil > [@](#): > > “We believe our investigation has been sufficient to give us reasonable confidence there was no intentional misconduct in connection with that sorting effort,” he said. > > Comey noted, though, that there are likely work-related emails still out there that FBI investigators were unable to find. > > “We are pleased that the career officials handling this case have determined that no further action by the department is appropriate,” Clinton spokesman Brian Fallon responded in a statement. “As the secretary has long said, it was a mistake to use her personal email and she would not do it again. We are glad that this matter is now resolved.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-not-recommending-charges-against-clinton/759125.md?page=13)