# FBI Refuses to Hire Arab-Jews to Translate **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 13, 2003, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-refuses-to-hire-arab-jews-to-translate/207135 "2003-10-13T06:38:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![2Thick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/a88e57/32.png) [@2Thick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2Thick)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-refuses-to-hire-arab-jews-to-translate/207135/41 "2003-10-14T02:29:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Marley23 \* > **You said just a minute ago that “all Jews feel a connection with a country that only exists to protect Jews and their values.” It’s not just a generality, it’s false. You see Jewish people in New York every day and walk through Jewish neighborhoods? Big deal. There are some very religious Jewish communities in NYC, and I wouldn’t use them as a representative sample. Most Jews do support Israel, but not as strongly or unwaveringly as the groups you’re talking about.** How many times do I have to repeat this simple fact? You do not need to support, like, or root for Israel in order to feel a connection with it. For example, there are many Iraqi that had many issues with Saddam’s Iraq (to say the least) but they still felt a strong connection with their homeland and their cultural roots. Given the chance to help their country (relative to their specific ideology) many \ would gladly volunteer. That is why the FBI does not want to take a chance with any Jewish translators. \*\* > [@](#): > > Debates usually do require somebody to make a case of some sort. You said in your first post “It makes you wonder what the FBI knows that we do not.” You’ve yet to do anything that suggests the FBI might know something we don’t, and you haven’t explained what you were implying. You were definitely implying something or other. 😛 \*\* I was trying to give other members a chance to express their opinions about why this has taken place and then argue against it. How is that not a debate? ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-refuses-to-hire-arab-jews-to-translate/207135/42 "2003-10-14T02:30:50Z")
Of course, that’s just those people sent by those offices. How many other Arabic speaking Jews applied that weren’t recommended by that office? And the article did say that many had worked for the Israeli military. That’s a killer right there for any secret or top secret clearance usually. I don’t care if it’s the Canadian military you worked for. And I wouldn’t doubt that the US government doesn’t trust the Israeli government. I don’t trust them. But I trust the Arabic and Iranian governments even less and if I had to pick between the two, I’d pick Israel every time. And in any case, I think we all recognize **2thick’s** biases from his previous posts on MENA threads. And that he makes assertions and then chickens out when called on them. So why you guys are surprised about this thread… ---
**Author:** ![2Thick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/a88e57/32.png) [@2Thick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2Thick)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-refuses-to-hire-arab-jews-to-translate/207135/43 "2003-10-14T02:34:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Neurotik \* > \*\* > And I wouldn’t doubt that the US government doesn’t trust the Israeli government. I don’t trust them. \*\* Thank you. That is all I wanted to hear. Was that so hard for the rest of you yes-men? ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-refuses-to-hire-arab-jews-to-translate/207135/44 "2003-10-14T02:36:01Z")
OK, so the US government doesn’t completely trust the Israeli government. What of it? ---
**Author:** ![2Thick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/a88e57/32.png) [@2Thick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2Thick)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-refuses-to-hire-arab-jews-to-translate/207135/45 "2003-10-14T02:38:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Neurotik \* > \*\*OK, so the US government doesn’t completely trust the Israeli government. What of it? \*\* That is a whole other thread **cough–USS LIBERTY–cough** ---
**Author:** ![Fang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/96bed5/32.png) [@Fang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fang)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-refuses-to-hire-arab-jews-to-translate/207135/46 "2003-10-14T07:23:07Z")
Remember guys: If 100% of Jews are rejected for a job, it’s because the FBI knows something about them we don’t. If 100% of Muslims are rejected for a job, it’s religious profiling. Let’s get our ethnic responses straight here. How do you say “december” in Farsi? ---
**Author:** ![Ms2001](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ms2001/32/18463_2.png) [@Ms2001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ms2001)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-refuses-to-hire-arab-jews-to-translate/207135/47 "2003-10-14T07:59:01Z")
You know, there are no Englishmen working at my job, but there are plenty of them working in the UK. Could it be that my employer knows something that all the employers in the UK don’t? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-refuses-to-hire-arab-jews-to-translate/207135/48 "2003-10-14T08:14:20Z")
We all know about the English and their ties to the events of 4-19. We would be fools to allow them in our midst! ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-refuses-to-hire-arab-jews-to-translate/207135/49 "2003-10-14T12:50:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by 2Thick \* > \*\*That is a whole other thread **cough–USS LIBERTY–cough** \*\* What does the USS Liberty have to do with anything? Are you suggesting that the evil Israelis are trying to destroy the US? Again, besides the fact that your posts tend to be quite bigoted, what’s your point? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-refuses-to-hire-arab-jews-to-translate/207135/50 "2003-10-14T12:57:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by 2Thick \* > \*\*That is a whole other thread **cough–USS LIBERTY–cough** \*\* If the reason for this thread is a whole _other_ thread, then we don’t really need _this_ thread, do we? :rolleyes: Lockdown. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-refuses-to-hire-arab-jews-to-translate/207135.md?page=2)