# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 117
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2022, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2321 "2022-09-02T22:59:11Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > I’ll bet they would want to send him on a goodwill tour to Kherson, to support the Ukrainian troops. If that reactor gets breached we’d need a first hand report. I’m sure if Trump injected some bleach he’d be just fine. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2022, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2322 "2022-09-02T23:29:19Z")
Taking him to Antarctica would be like a remake of The Blob. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2022, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2323 "2022-09-02T23:32:28Z")
I was thinking we could put him on the Artemis I flight. He might go voluntarily! He can be Ambassador to the Moon for all of Earth. We don’t have to mention that the capsule has no life support and is filled with pure nitrogen. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2324 "2022-09-03T00:19:34Z")
> [@Dr.Strangelove](#): > > We don’t have to mention that the capsule has no life support and is filled with pure nitrogen. he’s used to sucking all the air out of things - this will be no different. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2325 "2022-09-03T00:34:00Z")
Hey! There are rules about this! [https://www.ats.aq/e/waste.html](https://www.ats.aq/e/waste.html) ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2326 "2022-09-03T00:38:01Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > It’s an office supply item, just one specialized for a SCIF Why would Trump take empty folders with him? It’s not like he was diligently planning ahead for properly concealing classified documents he might be working with. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2327 "2022-09-03T00:40:04Z")
As I’ve theorized, they would have been supplies for the Mar a Lago scif. He didn’t need to take them because they were already there. ---
**Author:** ![slash2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@slash2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slash2k)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2328 "2022-09-03T01:15:03Z")
The box lists released by DOJ show an arrangement that appears far too haphazard for that explanation. Look at item 15, e.g.: 65 magazines or press articles, two books, some documents with Confidential and Secret markings, some more documents without markings, and four empty folders (two "Classified, " two “Return to staff secretary/ military aide”). ---
**Author:** ![Jungian\_Camisole1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jungian_camisole1/32/3646_2.png) [@Jungian\_Camisole1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jungian_Camisole1)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2329 "2022-09-03T01:20:28Z")
Apparently Mark Meadows is turning over more texts and emails. Heh. > **[After Mar-a-Lago search, Meadows turns over more texts and emails to Archives...](https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/02/politics/mark-meadows-texts-emails-national-archives/index.html)** > > Within a week of the FBI search of former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort, former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows handed over texts and emails to the National Archives that he had not previously turned over from his time in the... ---
**Author:** ![Ssounder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d07c76/32.png) [@Ssounder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ssounder)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2330 "2022-09-03T01:32:53Z")
Depends on the operational procedures of the shop. I was a COMSEC Custodian in my former life. We did not store classified cover sheets in the general supply closet. We had the responsibility to issue cover sheets. We most certainly would not have handed them out like candy, or gave them out for some unknown reserve purpose. There had to be people up the chain that approved each request. That kicks in the chain of custody, because then we knew something was out there and we had a responsibility to secure it before people went home for the evening. I suppose other shops might do it differently. A lot of people in this security discipline seemed to look the other way. I wonder if there’s any legal accountability mandated besides just getting fired. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2331 "2022-09-03T02:02:35Z")
If your former life was before color copiers and printers, I’ve got some news for you about how cover sheets are made nowadays. ---
**Author:** ![Ssounder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d07c76/32.png) [@Ssounder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ssounder)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2332 "2022-09-03T02:03:12Z")
Fair enough. ---
**Author:** ![Ssounder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d07c76/32.png) [@Ssounder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ssounder)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2333 "2022-09-03T02:32:53Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > As I’ve theorized, they would have been supplies for the Mar a Lago scif. He didn’t need to take them because they were already there. I am long removed from that world, but if I’m following: Did they just create a remote SKIF without any accountability in the chain of command for staff to enforce basic security protocol for said security risk? Isn’t that a Chief of Staff’s responsibility? Hopefully the J6 Committee will fix this vulnerability. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2334 "2022-09-03T04:56:54Z")
All this speculation, and trump hasn’t even been questioned about any of this, has he? ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2335 "2022-09-03T05:50:24Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Is he suggesting that sometimes law enforcement might raid a house, or even raid the wrong house, based on improper paperwork? That’s unpossible. > > Or maybe he meant it was a ‘paperwork error’ as in ‘trump made an error by keeping all that paperwork’. My guess is that is that he’s trying to revive the “standing order that everything that Trump takes home is automatically unclassified” excuse. Then the only problem was that Trump didn’t file the paper work to actually declassify the documents. Of course it that would mean that Trump was willing to have all of the secrets about Iran’s nuclear program opened up to FOIA requests just so that he could take a copy home with him. But it will probably be the fig leaf the base needs to claim its no big deal. ---
**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2336 "2022-09-03T12:32:01Z")
Someone in this thread or another and who claims to have worked in the classified documents field, said that the folders themselves have (or should have) some indicators on them that make them traceable and have some very general info about what they contain. Am I mis-remembering? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2337 "2022-09-03T15:34:55Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > Another highly questionable source takes a stand _against_ TFG in this MAL/documents issue: Oh yeah? Well Trump has got a little something for Barr! Put up yer dukes! MAGA-Fight! “Bill Barr had ‘no guts,’ and got ‘no glory.’ He was a weak and pathetic RINO, who was so afraid of being Impeached that he became a captive to the Radical Left Democrats,” [https://www.axios.com/2022/09/03/donald-trump-bill-bar-mar-a-lago](https://www.axios.com/2022/09/03/donald-trump-bill-bar-mar-a-lago) ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2338 "2022-09-03T16:03:20Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Of course it that would mean that Trump was willing to have all of the secrets about Iran’s nuclear program opened up to FOIA requests just so that he could take a copy home I heard some conservative (Barr?) comment yesterday that the whole “standing order” thing made no sense, but if it did happen it was incredibly reckless and irresponsible to declassify these highly sensitive documents. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2339 "2022-09-03T16:09:26Z")
He just wanted them for decorations! [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/0qBC_IHDvkk/maxresdefault.jpg "Folder Marked ‘Classified’ Apparently On Display At Trump 45-Themed Bar") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qBC_IHDvkk) ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2340 "2022-09-03T17:25:21Z")
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