# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 123
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2022, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2441 "2022-09-05T20:29:32Z")
I don’t. I think they’re all idiots. They think they’ll get in good with Trump, he’ll become president, and all will be forgiven. ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2022, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2442 "2022-09-05T20:30:09Z")
But he repays loyality so well. He is even going to pardon the January 6th rioters. Just give him some time. ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2022, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2443 "2022-09-05T20:37:38Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > A delay of a couple of weeks isn’t going to save Trump here You’re probably right but I really fear that he will somehow, magically get off scot-free ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2022, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2444 "2022-09-05T20:40:26Z")
> [@velomont](#): > > > [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > > > No doubt much classified information is critical and its disclosure can be genuinely dangerous and disruptive. But if my sad attempt at humour made you feel particularly cynical or flippant, I apologize. > > Hey Dr\_Paprika, I realized after my “Mr Intensity” post that you were joking and I would like to apologize for being something of an ass. > > Velomont @Dr_Paprika, I should have directed this to you with the ‘@’ designation. And to other Dopers, I will try to clean up my act. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2022, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2445 "2022-09-05T20:48:45Z")
> [@velomont](#): > > You’re probably right but I really fear that he will somehow, magically get off scot-free I can see the Govt. saying something like, Hey we got our stuff back, we’re all good. I mean, as it stands, he hasn’t been charged with a crime. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2022, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2446 "2022-09-05T20:49:24Z")
No offence taken. I get that what Trump did could have very serious implications. Thank you for your expertise. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2022, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2447 "2022-09-05T20:50:59Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > The special master seems like a setback but at the same time, it takes that avenue of grievance away from Trump. I disagree with this. Who the special master is will be crucial, and if it isn’t someone he wants, he will cry unfair. And if it is someone he wants but who essentially does his job correctly (instead of returning everything to Trump), again he will cry unfair and corruption and whatever else that falls out of his mouth. I think it is not useful to worry about or try to work around things that Trump and his followers will complain about. They will complain, illogically and without regard to truth or honesty, about anything and everything that goes against them. Work transparently, follow the law, do the best job you can to close the loop and get a good indictment, and preserve all the records of what you have done (as part of transparency, in case “something happens” to the official copies). Not easy, not glamorous, not fast. But right. ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2022, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2448 "2022-09-05T20:51:15Z")
Thank you. I can be an obnoxious prick at times. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2022, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2449 "2022-09-05T20:51:41Z")
There is no cure for being human. ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2022, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2450 "2022-09-05T20:53:58Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I can see the Govt. saying something like, Hey we got our stuff back, we’re all good. I mean, as it stands, he hasn’t been charged with a crime Trump, from my POV, seems to be Mr. Teflon and were he anyone else he would have been just some low-life unknown years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2022, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2451 "2022-09-05T21:15:32Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I can see the Govt. saying something like, Hey we got our stuff back, we’re all good. I mean, as it stands, he hasn’t been charged with a crime. This is not how “this” gets settled. Backing down to a bully and letting him off the hook is a sure fire way for him to attack again on his terms. He must be bloodied and humilated in front of everyone for this to be settled. And when I talk about “this” I mean the attack on our Democracy. Trump plays by schoolyard rules and must be taken down in a schoolhouse fashion. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2022, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2452 "2022-09-05T21:20:26Z")
It’s not how I want it settled. But I can see it happening. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2022, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2453 "2022-09-05T21:23:13Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I can see the Govt. saying something like, Hey we got our stuff back, we’re all good. Before Biden’s last speech, I would have thought so too. But not anymore. Because now there are political ramifications if they **don’t** charge him. If Biden devotes a speech to calling out people who are attacking democracy and putting the country at risk, and specifically mentions Trump and his supporters (MAGA Republicans) multiple times, and then the DOJ does nothing about what are clear and serious crimes… Well, at that point people will see the Democrats as feckless, and I can’t say I would blame them. That might crush the Democratic Party, at least in the short term. I thought that Biden tossed the gauntlet down. So did Garland, though not as directly and forcefully. If that gauntlet is meekly picked back up, they’re basically saying, “Okay, we give up, go ahead and take this country.” As I see it, at this point it’s a question of whether Trump has a political future, or the Democrats do. ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2022, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2454 "2022-09-05T21:24:06Z")
> [@Si\_Amigo](#): > > This is not how “this” gets settled. Backing down to a bully and letting him off the hook is a sure fire way for him to attack again on his terms. He must be bloodied and humilated in front of everyone for this to be settled. I certainly agree that that’s what **should** happen, but will it? Please say "yes’. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2022, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2455 "2022-09-05T21:58:00Z")
It’s not No Harm No Foul. The docs are a danger to security. There must be punishment. There also must be an intelligence assessment of the damage. ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2022, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2456 "2022-09-05T22:14:24Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > There must be punishment. There also must be an intelligence assessment of the damage. Big time! ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2022, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2457 "2022-09-05T22:20:01Z")
hmmmmmmmm Russian oligarch property being searched. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/0LQPlnpkKkg/maxresdefault.jpg "Top prosecutor reveals how long a Trump PRISON SENTENCE could be") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LQPlnpkKkg) ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2022, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2458 "2022-09-05T22:31:02Z")
> [@dougrb](#): > > Russian oligarch property being searched That story is several days old. I don’t see any connection to the MAL search, but I’m just some guy on the internet. ¯\_(ツ)\_/¯ [https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/02/politics/russian-oligarchs-homes-searched/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/02/politics/russian-oligarchs-homes-searched/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2022, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2459 "2022-09-05T22:39:42Z")
NYT article on the “60 day rule”. Basic point: no-one is sure how it should apply in this case. > **[As Midterms Near, Election Rule Raises Dilemma for Trump Inquiries](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/04/us/trump-investigations-midterm-elections.html)** > > Justice Department officials are debating how an unwritten rule should affect the criminal investigations into Jan. 6 and the former president’s handling of sensitive documents. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2022, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2460 "2022-09-05T22:43:47Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > I don’t see any connection to the MAL search If they find documents from MAL. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=122) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=124)