# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 142
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2821 "2022-09-14T19:58:15Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > I can’t imagine him writing much of anything. Bids? ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2822 "2022-09-14T20:27:04Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > I can’t imagine him writing much of anything. Knowing Trump, it probably said “steal this” on it. I liked this paragraph from the _Washington Post_ article above. > The affidavit that one of Trump’s lawyers said “he was not advised” that there were documents in “any private office space or other location” at Mar-a-Lago. This is the first sign that at least one attorney is not going to take the fall for misleading the Justice Department about the location of the documents. And the person advising the lawyer logically must be Trump or someone acting at his behest. In short, the lawyer _seems_ to be pointing his finger at his client with regard to any alleged obstruction. I wonder if the author knows who the Trump lawyer is or if “he” is meant to cover both men and women. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2823 "2022-09-14T20:46:29Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > Empty Wheel Sorry, who is this? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2824 "2022-09-14T20:50:02Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Sorry, who is this? [https://www](https://www). emptywheel. net/ I’ve never heard of them. I don’t know if they are a source I should trust. > **[Yes, Trump Was Making Notes on Classified Documents - emptywheel](https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/09/14/yes-trump-was-taking-notes-on-classified-documents/)** > > The confirmation that Trump took notes on classified documents makes it more likely that Trump is claiming he can't be prosecuted for stealing classified documents because he exploited US intelligence products for his own personal benefit. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2825 "2022-09-14T20:50:57Z")
Ah, ok. I took it as a nickname like Empty Green for MTG. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2826 "2022-09-14T20:51:48Z")
Yeah, me too. I had to google it. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2827 "2022-09-14T21:44:18Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > I’ve never heard of them. I don’t know if they are a source I should trust. I didn’t mean they are for sure right. Just that it is interesting to speculate about if, and what, he could have been writing on actual Top Secret documents. Like, maybe he thought if he wrote on them, they became his. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2828 "2022-09-14T21:52:20Z")
Emptywheel is a lawyer with a blog, who’s usually very accurate and often prescient. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2829 "2022-09-14T22:52:24Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > Emptywheel is a lawyer with a blog No it’s not. It’s a blog run by journalist [Marcy Wheeler](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcy_Wheeler), with group of writers/journalists with different kinds of expertise, but according to their [About page](https://www.emptywheel.net/about/), only one of them - BMAZ - claims to practice law. The cite above was written by Wheeler. All that said, I started following Wheeler during the Plame affair, and she’s both brilliant and accurate. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2830 "2022-09-14T22:53:34Z")
emptywheel is Marcy T. Wheeler (get it M.T. Wheeler → emptywheel). She is not a lawyer she’s an independent journalist who specializes in national security. Lately, she has been closely following the Durham investigation, January 6 trials, and, of course, the Trump documents case. Links: [Her Wikipedia page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcy_Wheeler) [Her website](https://www.emptywheel.net/) ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2831 "2022-09-14T22:58:56Z")
Ah, someone told me she was a lawyer, and I believed them. I should have googled first. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2832 "2022-09-15T01:12:51Z")
This question is MaL related: what is that ugly decorative dildo sticking up from the center turret? Is it supposed to be a stylized bell tower or chimney? ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2833 "2022-09-15T01:47:46Z")
Looks like it may be a chimney, there are several smaller ones around the outer walls. Doesn’t seem to be a lighthouse type thing in any of the night pictures. Or a big dildo thing. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2834 "2022-09-15T03:52:07Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > Just that it is interesting to speculate about if, and what, he could have been writing on actual Top Secret documents. I think he just wrote “Mrs. Vladimir Putin” over and over again. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2835 "2022-09-15T16:26:26Z")
> **[Trump warns of 'problems' like 'we've never seen' if he's indicted](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-warns-problems-weve-never-145023687.html)** > > It’s not the first time Republicans have hinted at potential civil unrest. > The former president said an indictment wouldn’t stop him from running for the White House again and repeatedly said Americans “would not stand” for his prosecution. > > “If a thing like that happened, I would have no prohibition against running,” Trump said in an interview with conservative talk radio host Hugh Hewitt. “I think if it happened, I think you’d have problems in this country the likes of which perhaps we’ve never seen before. I don’t think the people of the United States would stand for it.” > > Hewitt asked Trump what he meant by “problems.” > > “I think they’d have big problems. Big problems. I just don’t think they’d stand for it. They will not sit still and stand for this ultimate of hoaxes,” Trump said. > > … > > Hewitt appeared to see Trump’s comments as a nod toward potential unrest, asking the former president how he would respond when the “legacy media” accuses him of inciting violence. > > “That’s not inciting. I’m just saying what my opinion is,” Trump said. “I don’t think the people of this country would stand for it.” ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2836 "2022-09-15T16:35:47Z")
> [@DJTrump](#): > > “That’s not inciting. I’m just saying what my opinion is,” Trump said. “I don’t think the people of this country would stand for it.” Like the people who are going to prison now for the last time you ordered them to insurrection. This guy is really scared and lashing out now. Does he not realize that the government is not under his control this time and that they are just waiting for his followers to perform some stupid pathetic move. That he does not command a real army of citizens that could take down the goverment. A goverment that is activily watching and prosecuting his followers. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2837 "2022-09-15T18:13:00Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > “That’s not inciting. I’m just saying what my opinion is,” Trump said. “I don’t think the people of this country would stand for it.” Bring it on morons. We are sick and tired of your shit. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2838 "2022-09-15T18:14:32Z")
Y’know, I said that, and I was accused of using “dehumanizing language.” But whatever… ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2839 "2022-09-15T18:18:58Z")
> [@Si\_Amigo](#): > > Does he not realize that the government is not under his control this time … He also doesn’t understand that “the people of the United States” are not a monolithic bloc who all agree with him. In fact, a majority of “the people of the United States” think he’s an imbecile, a thief and a traitor. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2840 "2022-09-15T18:21:42Z")
Oh, not only in the United States… …and if this was in the Pit, I would go into more detail. But I’m not complaining, it’s OK like this. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=141) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=143)