# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 146
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2901 "2022-09-17T13:18:31Z")
Speaking of delaying tactics… > **[Phony document lands on court docket in Trump search case](https://apnews.com/article/florida-donald-trump-mar-a-lago-government-and-politics-66882a678d6f7d3b1d9abe019575092d)** > > A document purporting to be from the U.S. government and claiming the Treasury Department had information related to the search at Donald Trump's Florida estate was a fabrication. > WASHINGTON (AP) — When a government document mysteriously appeared earlier this week in the highest profile case in the federal court system, it had the hallmarks of another explosive storyline in the Justice Department’s investigation into [classified records](https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-mar-a-lago-government-and-politics-6bd103a8e418166b17a34d77e8d9102d) stored at former President Donald Trump’s Florida estate. > > The document purported to be from the U.S. Treasury Department, claimed that the agency had seized sensitive documents related to [last month’s search at Mar-a-Lago](https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-mar-a-lago-government-and-politics-9e8d683afe87389407950af7ccfdbdd6) and included a warrant ordering CNN to preserve “leaked tax records.” > > The document remained late Thursday on the court docket, but **it is a clear fabrication**. A review of dozens of court records and interviews by The Associated Press suggest the **document originated with a serial forger behind bars at a federal prison complex in North Carolina.** > > The incident also suggests that the court clerk was easily tricked into believing it was real, landing the document on the public docket in the [Mar-a-Lago](https://apnews.com/article/north-america-donald-trump-mar-a-lago-ap-top-news-politics-993263aaefab49a7988bb4ccb808791d) search warrant case. > … My bold. Who ordered it to be produced? Hmmm… I wonder… 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2902 "2022-09-17T14:42:30Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Who ordered it to be produced? Hmmm… I wonder… It wouldn’t surprise me if we found some familiar (political) names if we check to see if anyone has tried to get keep him from being charged/get him acquitted/released early etc. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2903 "2022-09-17T15:26:45Z")
Not to mention if he has recently acquired some high-dollar legal representation. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2904 "2022-09-17T18:08:47Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Who ordered it to be produced? He seems like a nut who does this kind of thing all the time. No need for a deeper explanation than that. > The man has been in custody for several years since he was found not competent to stand trial […] ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2905 "2022-09-17T18:23:19Z")
Not for long… talent like that should be recognized and put to work for the good of… um… well, the good of _somebody_. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2906 "2022-09-17T20:48:22Z")
Wait, he did this from prison? How? Just access to a computer? ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2907 "2022-09-17T20:53:51Z")
It’s my understanding that many prison libraries have extensive legal references. I think it’s because you’re not guaranteed an attorney for appellate work, but I could be wrong. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2908 "2022-09-18T03:39:56Z")
The 11th Circuit has already responded to the DOJ’s request for a stay by saying TFG has to respond to the DOJ by this Tuesday. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/yQS5tMs-LpA/maxresdefault.jpg "BREAKING: Appeals Court RESPONDS to DOJ Mar-A-Lago Search Motion and SETS DEADLINE for Trump") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQS5tMs-LpA) Oddly, the only other cite I could find for this at 11:30 pm EDT on Saturday was Fox News. No way in hell am I posting that link. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2909 "2022-09-18T03:47:27Z")
God I hope Trump’s escape gambit of delay is over. ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2910 "2022-09-18T03:50:39Z")
> Update: The 11th Circuit gives Trump's legal team until Tuesday at noon to respond to DOJ's petition to resume using seized Mar-a-Lago docs with classified markings in the criminal probe/not include those in the special master review. > > Last night: [https://t.co/YwLCQZhlA5](https://t.co/YwLCQZhlA5) [pic.twitter.com/6RfED9pPKQ](https://t.co/6RfED9pPKQ) > > — Zoe Tillman (@ZoeTillman) [September 17, 2022](https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/1571275343230648321?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) Was coming to share this, but was ninja-ed. Consider it a corroborating source. 😉 Why does it seem these things always drop late at night and/or on weekends? ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2911 "2022-09-18T04:03:40Z")
I was pretty sure that even Trump judges weren’t going to protect him (with the exception of Cannon) over this issue. To rule any other way is contrary to the Federalist Society goals with respect to their Unitary Executive theory, that virtually all power of the executive branch rests with the current president. If they were to undo this for Trump, it would mean any former president could assert executive privilege over classified material. No one wants that, least of all the Federalist Society. So here’s a chance for Trump judges to do the bidding of their Federalist Society masters and look like impartial arbiters of justice at the same time. (In this case, I agree with them!) @commasense, that was an excellent summary of the issues by Midas Touch. Thanks so much for posting it. And I think they are right, the Eleventh Circuit will grant DOJ’s request for a stay re the classified material by the end of the week. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2912 "2022-09-18T08:53:51Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > If they were to undo this for Trump, it would mean any former president could assert executive privilege over classified material. Not at all. They just get another of their quisling Trump judges to rule that the Cannon ruling only applies to Republican presidents. Easy-peasy lemon-sqeezey! The concept of precedents that apply to all equally is gone. The law means what their judges want it to mean. ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2913 "2022-09-18T12:13:06Z")
Why is the appeals court deadline not being reported in any major media outlets? Don’t see anything in NYT, CNN or MSNBC about it. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2914 "2022-09-18T12:18:37Z")
Yeah, this morning I thought I’d see something, but nope. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2915 "2022-09-18T13:59:44Z")
Yes, why is that? Do they think public interest is waning, or just that nothing particularly “sexy”has happened? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2916 "2022-09-18T14:14:32Z")
How certain are we that the court actually said this–is there a primary source? Searching Google News for stories in the last 24 hours about “Cannon Appeals Court” shows plenty of stories about the Justice Department’s appeal, but none about the appeals court responding. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2917 "2022-09-18T14:28:35Z")
MSN via Raw Story has it [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/appeals-court-sets-deadline-for-trump-lawyers-to-respond-to-doj-report/ar-AA11X5Pn?li=BBnb7Kz](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/appeals-court-sets-deadline-for-trump-lawyers-to-respond-to-doj-report/ar-AA11X5Pn?li=BBnb7Kz) ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2918 "2022-09-18T14:39:37Z")
I think everyone is talking about the crazy rally last night instead. Very scary stuff. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2919 "2022-09-18T14:44:04Z")
Does the court not publish rulings? ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/2920 "2022-09-18T15:49:13Z")
It’s a briefing schedule, not a ruling, but it’s an important one. I’m not finding anything in mainstream media, either. This case is of such significance, this is troubling. I would tend to trust Midas Touch, but who knows? Maybe they got it wrong. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=145) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=147)