# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 159
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3161 "2022-09-22T14:04:23Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > Too corrupt to serve justly, too stupid to even give it a veneer of jurisprudence. AIUI, the only method to remove a Federal judge is via the impeachment/conviction process by the House and Senate. This is what should happen, but won’t. ---
**Author:** ![tofor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tofor/32/13727_2.png) [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3162 "2022-09-22T14:09:24Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > " ‘On my first day in office I reclassified everything you took, just by thinking about it’, President Biden tells Trump." Just in case anybody missed it, that is a parody site. Much as we all wish this were true. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3163 "2022-09-22T14:32:25Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > For his next trick, he’ll say he thought about pardoning himself so that counts as a full pardon. He thinks he’s still President but is in fact not, so his magical mental powers apparently have limits. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3164 "2022-09-22T14:33:54Z")
But if the Feds were actually looking for Hillary’s emails at Mar-a-Lago, wouldn’t Trump be _glad_? Wouldn’t he be cooperating as much as possible? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3165 "2022-09-22T14:40:33Z")
> [@tofor](#): > > Just in case anybody missed it, that is a parody site. Much as we all wish this were true. What makes it tricky is that the fake part of the article is no more ridiculous than the true part of the article. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3166 "2022-09-22T14:42:54Z")
I’ve always considered him as something of a mutant, so that tracks. Professor Trump and the Q-Men. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3167 "2022-09-22T14:51:04Z")
A couple of things stood out to me in the order. First, the consistent referral to the United States (rather than the government / the National Archives / the FBI &c); and second, the statement that the documents “properly belonged to the people of the United States, not to Plaintiff.” Probably more symbolic than legally significant, though the first point is almost certainly due to the fact that the United States is the defendant in the original suit. But to me, they helped to highlight who the players are, and what’s at stake. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3168 "2022-09-22T14:53:31Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > For his next trick, he’ll say he thought about pardoning himself so that counts as a full pardon. You’re joking, but don’t be surprised when he actually claims that. And as for an emergency appeal to the Supreme Court… Nope. What are they going to do… Agree that Trump declassified everything with his Jedi Mind Powers? Even so, as we understand (but Trump apparently does not) it makes no difference if the materials were classified or not. They bore classified markings, and Trump claimed that he had sent the materials back. He had no right to keep ANY presidential materials. He lied. He obstructed justice. The Supreme Court is not going to make a special “Trump is God” rule. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3169 "2022-09-22T15:05:45Z")
And we’re also talking military secrets. There are few Americans who, even in 2022, don’t like being top War Dog. He’s fucking with our ability to keep our lead, which doesn’t help the general overall attitude of support for him in this issue. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3170 "2022-09-22T15:16:55Z")
Cannon Fodder responds with a filing: > She strikes the part of her order which allows the Trump team access to the classified docs. Here, in its entirety: [![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52376982755_114b5e7bce_b.jpg "SmartSelect\_20220922-101906\_Drive") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/52376982755/) The two stricken passages: [![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52376985480_c8217afa5f_b.jpg "20220922\_102035") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/52376985480/) [![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52376877624_a3a7bb8d11_b.jpg "20220922\_102040") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/52376877624/) ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3171 "2022-09-22T15:20:37Z")
Seems she got the message. I can think of few things (any?) more embarrassing to a judge than to be told on the national stage that you abused your discretion. She deserved no less for that garbage ruling. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3172 "2022-09-22T15:24:05Z")
As far as I can tell, this officially puts the kibosh on the idea that the classified documents go back to trump, or have anything to do with the special master. In two weeks: “Hey, we found your 2020 Snoopy calendar?” ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3173 "2022-09-22T15:33:21Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > And as for an emergency appeal to the Supreme Court… Nope. What are they going to do… Agree that Trump declassified everything with his Jedi Mind Powers? Hey, there’s nothing in the Constitution that says that the President can’t mentally declassify anything he wants, or that he has to tell anyone about it if he does. /Thomas, Alito, et al. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3174 "2022-09-22T15:47:25Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > I don’t think this filing from yesterday was posted. DOJ responded to the Trump team response in the 11th circuit request for stay. > > [https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/22537630-reply-in-support-of-motion-for-partial-stay-pending-appeal](https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/22537630-reply-in-support-of-motion-for-partial-stay-pending-appeal) Just finished reading. I’m not an attorney, but you don’t need to be one to read this as a complete smack down of Cannon’s decisions. The DOJ narrowly tailored their appeal, which was smart, but given the response, I wonder if they should have gone nuclear and appealed all the bullshit. I guess not, but I can daydream. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3175 "2022-09-22T15:47:53Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Dotard suggests the FBI was looking for… > > Hillary’s emails. I can’t bring myself to watch it. He really said that? I had assumed that was a joke. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3176 "2022-09-22T15:53:44Z")
> [@Stratocaster](#): > > Just finished reading. I’m not an attorney, but you don’t need to be one to read this as a complete smack down of Cannon’s decisions. I just read the caption again and it struck me as a great summary of the last 6 years _ **Donald Trump vs. The United States of America** _ ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3177 "2022-09-22T15:54:58Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > he’ll say he thought about pardoning himself so that counts as a full pardon There’s no need. Biden doesn’t hold a grudge, he will pardon Trump in two weeks. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3178 "2022-09-22T15:59:18Z")
More trouble for DJT- Biden announced he has mentally reclassified those items that were mentally unclassified. (just kidding, if it wasn’t obvious) ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3179 "2022-09-22T16:03:14Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I just read the caption again and it struck me as a great summary of the last 6 years > _ **Donald Trump vs. The United States of America** _ Ha! I hadn’t thought of that, but I agree, a very ironic caption. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3180 "2022-09-22T16:10:17Z")
> [@Stratocaster](#): > > The DOJ narrowly tailored their appeal, which was smart, but given the response, I wonder if they should have gone nuclear and appealed all the bullshit. I guess not, but I can daydream. I believe they still reserve the right to appeal the full decision. But honestly, having a Special Master go through the non-classified stuff isn’t really a big deal. They still might appeal other parts of it to get rid of this notion that former Presidents get any sort of special treatment in these cases. They filed the more narrowly tailored appeal to get a quick ruling to continue using the documents marked classified. Seems like a smart and successful strategy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=158) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=160)