# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2022, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3301 "2022-09-23T20:40:01Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> So Cannon, to the right of them, follied and blundered?

[golf clap]

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2022, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3302 "2022-09-23T21:48:23Z")

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There are times that I really wish there was a “Like” button. This is one of them.

Also a groan emoji.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2022, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3303 "2022-09-23T22:03:25Z")

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That’s very clever. Sullied and floundered?

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**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2022, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3304 "2022-09-23T22:08:22Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Possibly a slew of pardons that Dolt 45 wrote while still president, including one for himself, and never made public?

On stolen White House letterhead, but the printing includes, along the bottom edge, the actual date (in, say, 2022) that the “pardon” was printed. 'Cause, y’know, “the best people.”

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2022, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3305 "2022-09-23T23:51:48Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> At this point she already has a lot of negative scrutiny and has been reprimanded. I doubt she’d go any further than what she’s done.

If she does double down, I suspect she’d be more vulnerable to impeachment.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2022, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3306 "2022-09-24T00:06:04Z")

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> [@MulderMuffin](#):
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> expenses such as Orenstein’s fees must be paid in full and on time or Trump could face court sanctions.

Oh oh. “Orenstein did very bad work. Did not find me totally innocent. Witch Hunt! He does not deserve to be paid. Sad!”

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2022, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3307 "2022-09-24T00:07:32Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Possibly a slew of pardons that Dolt 45 wrote while still president, including one for himself, and never made public?

Nah. Trump will probably announce that since he “thought of pardons for everyone” that they therefore exist.

“I pardoned myself with the power of my mind. That’s the best kind of pardon. No pardon has been better than this in the history of pardons.”

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2022, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3308 "2022-09-24T00:16:20Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Oh oh. “Orenstein did very bad work. Did not find me totally innocent. Witch Hunt! He does not deserve to be paid. Sad!”

He’ll be paid in two weeks.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2022, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3309 "2022-09-24T03:18:11Z")

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Is trump trying to pretend that the raid was a search for something other than the stolen documents? Why would they need to plant something, like supposed evidence of a crime, when the crime is the stolen documents themselves?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2022, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3310 "2022-09-24T03:27:05Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> “Orenstein did very bad work. Did not find me totally innocent. Witch Hunt! He does not deserve to be paid. Sad!”

> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> “I pardoned myself with the power of my mind. That’s the best kind of pardon. No pardon has been better than this in the history of pardons.”

Well, you’re no **Smapti** … but you’re close. 😉

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2022, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3311 "2022-09-24T03:53:47Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> Well, you’re no **Smapti**

Not by a long shot.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2022, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3312 "2022-09-24T14:49:47Z")

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Here again, there is an apprentice and a master :D.

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2022, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3313 "2022-09-24T14:54:02Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> > [@Atamasama](#):
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> > At this point she already has a lot of negative scrutiny and has been reprimanded. I doubt she’d go any further than what she’s done.
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> If she does double down, I suspect she’d be more vulnerable to impeachment.

She could wear a MAGA hat in court and rule that Trump is immune from any and all prosecution, investigation and jokes about his appearance, and there wouldn’t be two-thirds of Senators willing to remove her.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2022, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3314 "2022-09-24T15:01:28Z")

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> [@flurb](#):
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> and there wouldn’t be two-thirds of Senators willing to remove her.

Right. Judges are impeached very rarely, and almost always for corruption. I suppose if they could prove something like she was getting paid off under the table to rule for Trump there _might_ be enough votes.

If you’re going to have appointments for life to insulate judges from political pressure, impeaching her for this kind of thing would be very bad. Remember how Trump went after the “so called judge” who ruled against his immigration order. There are courts of appeals for a reason.

I get that people are appalled by her decision, but Federal judges (and all judges) make terrible decisions all the time. I could start a whole pit thread on just my cases that were torpedoed by very bad rulings.

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**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2022, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3315 "2022-09-24T16:30:26Z")

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And the three SCIFs I’ve worked in are also designed to prevent any EM transmissions. This is very serious stuff.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2022, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3316 "2022-09-24T17:51:23Z")

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Oh please. They put a padlock on the door. The best padlock. Totally secure.

(I’m reminded of Trump in realtime realizing the flaw in his wall idea when he said: (paraphrased) "And the wall will stop them, you can’t get over the wall, or I guess if you had a rope you could get over it.)

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2022, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3317 "2022-09-24T17:58:55Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> I guess if you had a rope you could get over it.

Assuming no bone-spurs, of course.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2022, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3318 "2022-09-24T21:34:19Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> I get that people are appalled by her decision, but Federal judges (and all judges) make terrible decisions all the time. I could start a whole pit thread on just my cases that were torpedoed by very bad rulings.

I imagine impeachment isn’t the only potential consequence. If nothing else, having a terrible reputation could make things hard for her.

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2022, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3319 "2022-09-24T21:58:48Z")

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> [@velomont](#):
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> designed to prevent any EM transmissions.

> [@EllisDee](#):
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> They put a padlock on the door.

No EM transmissions penetrated THAT part of the door.

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**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2022, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3320 "2022-09-24T22:11:01Z")

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> [@dougrb](#):
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> No EM transmissions penetrated THAT part of the door.

Sadly, instead of EM transmissions, we are seeing numerous BS transmissions from Trump.

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