# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 169
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3361 "2022-09-27T23:20:26Z")
Hello? Poison control hotline? What do I do if I’ve had too much schadenfreude all at once? ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3362 "2022-09-27T23:24:26Z")
Laugh! Out Loud! Now keep doing it. ---
**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3363 "2022-09-27T23:31:39Z")
> [@mordecaiB](#): > > Having him do research etc. will still be charged at his top rates, no? You don’t give someone a $3 million retainer to do research and make copies. I believe his attitude towards this case may be the same as Michael Caine’s towards Jaws 4: > \*_I have never seen it, but by all accounts it is terrible._ _However, I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific._ ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3364 "2022-09-27T23:32:09Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > > [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > > > Kise has a reputation as being a very good lawyer. That makes me wonder if he had the temerity to say « No, Mr Trump, I’m afraid your proposed course of action would not be legal / proper / likely to help you in court » and is no longer n Trump’s good books. > > > > Pure speculation on my part. > > See, my pure speculation is that it was Kise who suggested Dearie as a special master and sold it to Trump on the basis of the FISA bullshit. Now Trump is pissed that he got a real judge and sidelined Kise due to pique. I think broadly speaking both speculations amount to the same thing, that Kise by all accounts is a very competent lawyer, and you cannot be competent at what you do and be a Trump toadie at the same time. Kise was, after all, smart enough to get Trump to part with $3 million upfront. So whatever the specific reason that he was “sidelined”, I’m pretty sure that one way or another it was for not being a Trump toadie as expected. As for why he was sidelined and not fired outright, see above about the $3 mil upfront! 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3365 "2022-09-27T23:39:30Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > to find an online web portal creator who will work with them to create a system for trump to view the unclassified documents. Why the F do they need to create a web portal? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3366 "2022-09-27T23:46:41Z")
> [@dougrb](#): > > Why the F do they need to create a web portal? Presumably the portal includes tools to administrate and track access to these documents. It’s not like the government can just send a google drive link. Shit like that is how Alex Jones got screwed. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3367 "2022-09-27T23:58:36Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > It’s not like the government can just send a google drive link. Why not? It seems like at least some attorneys are using Google Drive and similar tools already: > **[Secure File Sharing for Law Firms: Tips and Tools to Use](https://www.clio.com/blog/secure-file-sharing-law-firms/)** > > Looking for a secure file sharing tool for your law firm? Lori Gonzalez of the RayNa Corporation takes us through a few tips. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3368 "2022-09-28T00:02:41Z")
Legitimately don’t know about the answer regarding Google Drive, but I am pretty sure the government is going through its list of already pre-approved vendors. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3369 "2022-09-28T00:11:11Z")
Right–I’m sure their pre-approved vendors had to go through some formal process to be approved, meeting a list of requirements. But there’s no de facto reason why Google wouldn’t be one of them, except that they might not have bothered. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3370 "2022-09-28T00:16:24Z")
Google may not be an approved vendor for the specific task that the Justice department is seeking. (This is pure speculation on my part, of course.) ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3371 "2022-09-28T00:20:08Z")
I agree; it’s just that without the list, one can’t flatly say “It’s not like the government can just send a google drive link”. They may be able to do just that if Google was approved and selected. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3372 "2022-09-28T00:25:56Z")
Good thing they never had to do this before portals and google. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3373 "2022-09-28T00:28:43Z")
Sure, you can accomplish the same thing, more slowly, with FedEx. Or hire some street urchins to shuttle the documents back and forth. I assume they’re trying to speed up the process a bit via technology. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3374 "2022-09-28T00:49:20Z")
Am I mistaken in thinking that a DoJ-approved vendor is supposed to build the portal, but that _Mexico_ is supposed to pay for it? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3375 "2022-09-28T00:50:59Z")
after they build the firewall ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3376 "2022-09-28T00:58:17Z")
> [@Dr.Strangelove](#): > > Sure, you can accomplish the same thing, more slowly, with FedEx. FedEx $50 Portal creator $20,000 ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3377 "2022-09-28T01:07:30Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > See, my pure speculation is that it was Kise who suggested Dearie as a special master and sold it to Trump on the basis of the FISA bullshit. Now Trump is pissed that he got a real judge and sidelined Kise due to pique. That strikes me as a possibility as well. ---
**Author:** ![CaveMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cavemike/32/16379_2.png) [@CaveMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaveMike)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3378 "2022-09-28T01:12:09Z")
I think by ‘create’ it means host an instance of a web portal – not implement a web portal system. From the doc it seems that the vendor is responsible for scanning and processing the docs and that is likely the majority of the work and expense. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3379 "2022-09-28T01:25:56Z")
> [@CaveMike](#): > > From the doc it seems that the vendor is responsible for scanning and processing the docs and that is likely the majority of the work and expense. ⁢ And, AFAIK, Google docs doesn’t offer that feature. And I know USB sticks don’t. I just find it interesting he can’t see them in person. ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3380 "2022-09-28T01:52:25Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I just find it interesting he can’t see them in person. We already know he has sticky fingers and thinks these things belong to him. I wouldn’t let him touch them again with a 40-foot pole. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=168) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=170)