# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\
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Did they look behind the long form certificate in the classified folder?

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> They asked for a delay in the proceedings because they can’t get a vendor to do the job. I’m sure they’re looking really hard to find someone.

I wonder if at some point the court could find someone and then bill Trump. Cash up front, it’s only reasonable.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> I’m sure they’re looking really hard to find someone.

They ran a help wanted ad in the [_Tryon Daily Bulletin_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tryon_Daily_Bulletin) and everything.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3424 "2022-09-29T20:29:38Z")

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Yeah - I’d like to hear how many pages they have had scanned so far. More than ZERO?

Will be interesting to hear Dearie’s response. This ain’t rocket appliances or anything. Just requires the generous application of cash - up front, if you please. Short timeframes can be met with more/better staff/technology - which involves more $ - but too bad, so sad.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
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> [@bobot](#):
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> I wonder if at some point the court could find someone and then bill Trump. Cash up front, it’s only reasonable.

**Judge Dearie** : You’re wealthy, just give us the money by the end of the day and we’ll get this done and have it over with.

**Trump, sweating profusely** : Of course I’m rich, I’m filthy rich, everybody knows how rich and successful I am. I’m a winner. No problem Your Honor.

**Trump, furiously writing on Truth Social** : Okay, to Beat this WITCH HUNT I am asking you, a Real Patriot, to give money so that the Deep State will be crushed. I love you and you are very special to me. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN AGAIN.

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> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#):
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> They looked under the coffee table, behind the couch, under the couch cushion…

> [@simster](#):
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> Did they look behind the long form certificate in the classified folder?

These comments remind me of [Find the Fish](http://montypython.50webs.com/scripts/Meaning_of_Life/7.htm). ([Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGBZnfB46es))

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> I’d require that they give me a cashier’s check for 150% of my estimated cost, and then refund them the difference when done.

Well, maybe two weeks after we’re done. The refund check’s in the mail don’tcha know.

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> [@Sinaptics](#):
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> ETA: Sorry about the weird formatting. I have no idea what’s going on there.

Text enclosed by dollar signs is interpreted as math markup (similar to LaTeX, if that means anything to you). So it thought that everything in between was variable names. I fixed it for you.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3429 "2022-09-29T21:06:46Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> They ran a help wanted ad in the [_Tryon Daily Bulletin_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tryon_Daily_Bulletin) and everything.

Why don’t they get some high school kids to do it? Might be able to buy them off with pizza, athletic shoes, and some light drugs.

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**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3430 "2022-09-29T21:47:30Z")

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Judge Cannon isn’t even attempting to appear impartial anymore. [Trump Doesn’t Have To Defend Accusations of FBI Planting Evidence.](https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/29/politics/trump-special-master-request-doj-inventory/index.html)

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Can Dearie just say, ‘OK, then there is no objection to the documents as identified by the FBI. I find that there are no privileged documents.’?

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Eh, in the end, who cares? The DOJ got the classified documents, if Cannon wants to delay Trump’s document sideshow, which in the end costs Trump even more money, let her

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If Trump made that claim in court, I would be pissed with the decision. If the DOJ never moves to charge Trump over the theft and security breach, I will also be pissed.  
ETA: Yes, Nars Gliley, the judge is totally pulling for Trump. I wasn’t intending to dispute that.

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> [@Nars\_Glinley](#):
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> Judge Cannon isn’t even attempting to appear impartial anymore.

She could wear a MAGA hat at this point and it probably wouldn’t be much more shocking than anything else she has done.

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If Trump refuses to comply with Dearie’s requests, what happens? Would it be considered contempt of court? Not that I’d expect Cannon to do anything about it, but does either Dearie or the DOJ have any independent power to ensure the requests are complied with?

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Trump is claiming that the FBI took 200,000 pages of documents. WaPo’s Philip Bump thinks not.

> **[Analysis | Did the FBI really seize 200,000 pages of documents at Mar-a-Lago?](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/09/29/trump-fbi-search-documents/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWJpZCI6IjI4MzY2NzQiLCJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNjY0NDkwNzk0LCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNjY1NzAwMzk0LCJpYXQiOjE2NjQ0OTA3OTQsImp0aSI6ImQ5ZmJhODJlLTA5YTAtNDk5Yi04ZjQwLTAwNmQzNzY3NDA3NyIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9wb2xpdGljcy8yMDIyLzA5LzI5L3RydW1wLWZiaS1zZWFyY2gtZG9jdW1lbnRzLyJ9.UhD45uft7InBU-Hy9yESXo53CYeUzdatr4ceXMXzjuo&itid=gfta)**
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> A new court filing from Trump's attorneys makes a hard-to-believe claim.

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> [@Dr.Strangelove](#):
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> If Trump refuses to comply with Dearie’s requests, what happens?

He complains to Cannon and she overrules Dearie. That seems to be what is already happening.

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> [@commasense](#):
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> Trump is claiming that the FBI took 200,000 pages of documents.

I took MORE than you claim. My heists are always bigger.

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> [@commasense](#):
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> Trump is claiming that the FBI took 200,000 pages of documents. WaPo’s Philip Bump thinks not.

So, he’s confessing he took over _200,000_ pages from the White House? When did he or his staff get the time to vet them all to make sure they were really his?

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> [@Nars\_Glinley](#):
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> Judge Cannon isn’t even attempting to appear impartial anymore. [Trump Doesn’t Have To Defend Accusations of FBI Planting Evidence.](https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/29/politics/trump-special-master-request-doj-inventory/index.html)

I’m not sure that’s a fair summary. I think the ruling says that Trump is under no obligation to reveal his legal defense strategy at this stage of the proceedings. IANAL.

As much as I want to see trump in prison, I think that this is the legally correct ruling. A person under investigation has rights. Trump has the same rights that anyone else does. If the case ever comes to trial then he may make the claim that the documents were planted, or he may not. He may make the claim that he declassified them, or he may not. He doesn’t have to reveal his defense until that time.

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